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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25199 Location: Classified
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 Re: Seinfeld
Seinfeld will always be one of the best shows ever.
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:07 pm Posts: 28301 Location: ... siiiigh...
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If you love Curb, you'll probably like the later seasons more. Those original seasons really were a show about nothing, but the later seasons have so many plot strands that come together, like on Curb.
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68237 Location: Seattle, WA
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I've noticed that already. The episodes have recurring storylines, and things come full circle by the end, just like Curb.
I'm up to "The Cheever Letters" in season four.
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 23258 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Peak Seinfeld is S3-5 IMO so you are in for a treat with Season 4. This one has a season arc which is great to watch (S7 does too) and many classic episodes.
The Pitch/The Ticket pays off by the end of the season but as a standalone - it is solid mid range.
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Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:49 pm |
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 23258 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Algren wrote: What I like most is spotting the cameos and supporting cast. In "The Trip Part 2" (which is excellent, btw) the guy that plays Tango's cellmate in Tango & Cash is the Smog Strangler. I'm also pretty sure that the chambermaid Lupe is Larry's maid in Curb that he takes to the club for dinner. And, of course, Larry makes a brief appearance when Kramer opens the door to find the police and loads of other people staring at him. The Trip is a great double episode. The smog strangler is Clint Howard - Ron Howard's brother! Also look out for Ron and Clint's father who makes two separate appearances on the show in later episodes/seasons. I love the cameos and guest stars - they really do add so much to the show. I watch a podcast on YouTube that interviews guest stars, writers etc. and it's great to hear each story.
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 23258 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Mister Ecks wrote: If you love Curb, you'll probably like the later seasons more. Those original seasons really were a show about nothing, but the later seasons have so many plot strands that come together, like on Curb. Yes - definitely a Larry David specialty.
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68237 Location: Seattle, WA
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I finally got to "The Contest", which I'd heard a lot about. Great episode. Quite a risque topic for 20+ years ago, though I'm not sure what time Seinfeld usually aired. But it was handled well.
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:07 pm Posts: 28301 Location: ... siiiigh...
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Algren wrote: I finally got to "The Contest", which I'd heard a lot about. Great episode. Quite a risque topic for 20+ years ago, though I'm not sure what time Seinfeld usually aired. But it was handled well. Honestly still ahead of its time. Network TV might have jokes or lines involving masturbation now, and direct naming of it, but to have the central plotline of a sitcom in the 90s based around it is pretty remarkable for the time. Of course the fact that they never actually use the word and use clever "nicknames" like master of your domain is what makes it.
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Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:40 pm |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68237 Location: Seattle, WA
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So ahead of its time. Even Elaine is party to the bet, and the casual way that she is included feels entirely natural. I've not seen anything remotely as cool even these days. If such a plot occurred today, people would make such a song and dance about it that when you saw the film or episode it would feel some how undercut.
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 23258 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Yes The Contest is perfection. The fact that they use euphemisms for "it" makes it even funnier and more memorable. Glad you liked it.
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stuffp
Keeping it Light
Joined: Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:06 am Posts: 11564 Location: Bright Falls
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stuffp wrote: I always enjoyed watching this show. I saw it first during reruns in the late 90's, early 00's, and I tried to catch episodes regularly, but in all I've probably just seen about half of the show all together. So I decided to watch this all from the start now. The very first episode needs a bit getting used to, I actually remember the very first scene from youtube too, it doesn't flow that well yet, but shows potential for sure. It immediately gets better, with Elaine joining from episode two, and really George is the best character so far, "decaf coffee", "I'm an architect", "interference on the coinflip", and during episode 2 and 3 of the first season I've laughed the most with a comedy since a long while.
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 23258 Location: Melbourne Australia
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stuffp wrote: stuffp wrote: I always enjoyed watching this show. I saw it first during reruns in the late 90's, early 00's, and I tried to catch episodes regularly, but in all I've probably just seen about half of the show all together. So I decided to watch this all from the start now. The very first episode needs a bit getting used to, I actually remember the very first scene from youtube too, it doesn't flow that well yet, but shows potential for sure. It immediately gets better, with Elaine joining from episode two, and really George is the best character so far, "decaf coffee", "I'm an architect", "interference on the coinflip", and during episode 2 and 3 of the first season I've laughed the most with a comedy since a long while. I used to skip Season 1 on rewatches but have come to enjoy it quite a bit. Yes the show was far from what it would be come but there are still some great moments and converstations. Also some foreshadowing of plotlines they'd use later (e.g. The Opposite). Season 2 while short is damn great. Some all timer episodes including Chinese Restaurant, The Jacket, The Statue, The Answering Machine among others. Then we get to Seasons 3 to 5 which are peak greatness. S6-S7 good. S8-S9 the weakest but do have many fans because of the sillier more physical humour.
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stuffp
Keeping it Light
Joined: Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:06 am Posts: 11564 Location: Bright Falls
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Yeah, I'm about half way through season 2 now, and it's definitely a step up in quality. Like season 1 really is already great, and too damn short, but in season 2, things really fall in place much more, Kramer is much better too.
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 23258 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Indeed - the characters start to become more developed. Episodes become more memorable too. It then takes off in S3.
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stuffp
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So I'm really just taking this very slow, just watched the last 2 episodes of season two over the weekend, and they're, the Chinese restaurant and the fired waiter are both great too. That scene in the last episode where Elaine overslept and is rushing to get her stayover friend in a car to the airport is one of the best I've seen in a sitcom. She's so great in that, including her description of the drive to the airport.
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Shack
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Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40271
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I was thinking the other idea about how Seinfeld and Friends are now 30-35 years old. If you watched a 35 year old sitcom in the mid 2000s, it would mean watching an early 70s starting sitcom like All in the Family or Mary Tyler Moore show, which felt about a million years old about the time. Even watching the Office now, is equivalent of watching Cheers in mid 2000s, which I never did due to it already feeling old. Some of I think, would be that comedies between 70s/80s and 00s changed a lot making the old ones seem more dated than movies. But also the lack of new sitcoms make the last popular ones everlasting.
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 23258 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Shack wrote: I was thinking the other idea about how Seinfeld and Friends are now 30-35 years old. If you watched a 35 year old sitcom in the mid 2000s, it would mean watching an early 70s starting sitcom like All in the Family or Mary Tyler Moore show, which felt about a million years old about the time. Even watching the Office now, is equivalent of watching Cheers in mid 2000s, which I never did due to it already feeling old. Some of I think, would be that comedies between 70s/80s and 00s changed a lot making the old ones seem more dated than movies. But also the lack of new sitcoms make the last popular ones everlasting. This stuff always fascinates me. When I was watching Seinfeld and Friends live in 1994/95 - I was also watching (late at night) repeats of shows like Maude (17-22 years later), Welcome Back Kotter (16-21 years) and Different' Strokes (8-16 years). Yet they felt WAY more dated. In the 80s and early 90s would watch repeats of 60s shows like Mr Ed, I Dream of Jeanie, Bewitched, Get Smart, My Three Sons and Gilligan's Island - they really felt dated as some of them were even in black and white, yet they were only 20-25 years old! Blows the mind.
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MadGez
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stuffp wrote: So I'm really just taking this very slow, just watched the last 2 episodes of season two over the weekend, and they're, the Chinese restaurant and the fired waiter are both great too. That scene in the last episode where Elaine overslept and is rushing to get her stayover friend in a car to the airport is one of the best I've seen in a sitcom. She's so great in that, including her description of the drive to the airport. Season 2 has some gems. Love Chinese Restaurant, The Jacket and The Statue. You are in for a treat with seasons 3, 4 and 5 in particular.
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