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| Author: | Excel [ Thu May 26, 2022 9:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Really starting to think Pence is going to do much better than people expect. He is Trump but with none of the drama and much more respect for government. He runs, I think he is going to be a major challenger. |
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| Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Thu May 26, 2022 11:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Possibly. I do think we are starting to see the mystique of Trump wearing off. I also think there is a very real possibility that DeSantis does the unthinkable and loses this November. His stunt with Disney is wildly unpopular down here and pretty much only caters to people who were going to vote Republican no matter what. However I do think a strategy for the GOP post Trump has been to lean in on hat appeal to churn up the base to go out and vote |
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| Author: | zwackerm [ Thu May 26, 2022 11:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Possibly. I do think we are starting to see the mystique of Trump wearing off. I also think there is a very real possibility that DeSantis does the unthinkable and loses this November. His stunt with Disney is wildly unpopular down here and pretty much only caters to people who were going to vote Republican no matter what. However I do think a strategy for the GOP post Trump has been to lean in on hat appeal to churn up the base to go out and vote Desantis' polling has stayed 9% ahead of Crist so it's not as unpopular as you think. I'd be shocked if he lost reelection. Would not shock me if Florida and Texas switched and Florida became the deep red state and Texas became the swing state in the next few decades |
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| Author: | Flava'd vs The World [ Thu May 26, 2022 1:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
All the Trumpers I know are still fanatically devoted to him. They're convinced none of this bad stuff would be happening if he was still around. And for them, I guess it wouldn't be. If Trump went on tv and used words like special military operation, and said the media was blowing the Ukraine situation out of proportion just to make him look bad, and that it was the new democratic hoax and that there were very fine people on both sides ... they'd eat that shit up. Same with the Afghanistan exit. Same shit would have happened, but in their minds it would have been "the greatest military withdrawal in history." He is absolutely winning the Republican nomination. |
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| Author: | Cynosure [ Thu May 26, 2022 4:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Imo Trump is the only Republican candidate able to lose the general election in 2024. The polished Trumps a la DeSantis or Pence are much more dangerous as they share the same reactionary beliefs but know how to better sell them to the wider population. |
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| Author: | Excel [ Thu May 26, 2022 5:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
I think that right now, and especially by 2024, these cancel/culture wars will be beyond played out. Most people are beyond tired of the drama and that remains a gigantic strong point of Biden. DeSantis wear with Disney makes him too polarizing. Pence's actions on 1/6 and during the inauguration earned him an enormous amount of goodwill among the one Republicans of the country, as well the open-minded moderate wing. Like Biden, Pence's communication and personality is bland and boring, but this is largely what I think people are looking for out of their leaders. Pence/Haley would be the GOPs version of Biden/Harris and I suspect would do quite well. |
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| Author: | Shack [ Thu May 26, 2022 8:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Desantis can beat Trump if he runs but he might not |
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| Author: | Excel [ Thu May 26, 2022 10:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
DeSantis continues to feel like the definition of "flavor of the month". The primaries on 1 1/2 years away, I don't see the staying power there. Trump's relevance in that time frame is even more difficult to determine, but I think DT's appeal will be well below what many are thinking it will be. His base has completely stopped expanding, rather it is shrunk greatly. Similar to the Dems ganging up on Bernie in 2020, I suspect the GOP will find an alternative to DT if he opts to run again. Trump is going to be extremely heavy and direct fire from some credible wings of his party. He has virtually no true respected allies left. But above all, very few people want the Trump reality show back on their TVs every day. |
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| Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Thu May 26, 2022 11:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Trump is a losing hand in 2024 if he gets the nomination, and McConnell doesn’t like losing. |
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| Author: | Shack [ Fri May 27, 2022 1:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Current rating on predictit Republicans Trump 37 DeSantis 34 Haley 7 Pence 6 Pompeo/Scott/Noem 3 Democrats Biden 37 Harris 18 Buttigieg 14 Hillary 6 Newsom 5 |
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| Author: | Excel [ Fri May 27, 2022 9:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Shack wrote: Current rating on predictit Republicans Trump 37 DeSantis 34 Haley 7 Pence 6 Pompeo/Scott/Noem 3 Democrats Biden 37 Harris 18 Buttigieg 14 Hillary 6 Newsom 5 Pence is about rise. Rapidly. |
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| Author: | Steve [ Fri May 27, 2022 9:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Shack wrote: Current rating on predictit Republicans Trump 37 DeSantis 34 Haley 7 Pence 6 Pompeo/Scott/Noem 3 Democrats Biden 37 Harris 18 Buttigieg 14 Hillary 6 Newsom 5 This is so fucking depressing |
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| Author: | Shack [ Fri May 27, 2022 9:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Excel wrote: Shack wrote: Current rating on predictit Republicans Trump 37 DeSantis 34 Haley 7 Pence 6 Pompeo/Scott/Noem 3 Democrats Biden 37 Harris 18 Buttigieg 14 Hillary 6 Newsom 5 Pence is about rise. Rapidly. Nah... he is Judas to Trump voters |
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| Author: | Excel [ Fri May 27, 2022 9:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Shack wrote: Excel wrote: Shack wrote: Current rating on predictit Republicans Trump 37 DeSantis 34 Haley 7 Pence 6 Pompeo/Scott/Noem 3 Democrats Biden 37 Harris 18 Buttigieg 14 Hillary 6 Newsom 5 Pence is about rise. Rapidly. Nah... he is Judas to Trump voters Trump voters alone can't win. Becoming more and more clear. His popularity has declined significantly since he lost to Biden. |
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| Author: | Shack [ Fri May 27, 2022 10:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
I could see Trump endorsing Pompeo if he doesn’t run. |
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| Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Sat Jun 04, 2022 9:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
I guess now DeSantis is withholding money from the Tampa Bay Rays for tweeting for gun reform. Remember when people thought the Republicans were the party of free speech? |
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| Author: | zwackerm [ Sat Jun 04, 2022 11:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Are they being arrested or censored? |
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| Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
They are being asked to be censored, yes |
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| Author: | Cynosure [ Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Well, no corporation has a right to public money. It's a shame he's using this power to push forward such a reactionary agenda but I'm sure glad the state has the discretionary right not to fund or sponsor corporations or people who spew racist, homophobic or antisemitic crap without it being considered an abridgement of their rights. |
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| Author: | Flava'd vs The World [ Wed Jun 08, 2022 2:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
The Rays refused to wear Pride Flags on their uniforms. That should get them back into Desantis' good graces. #Don'tSeeGay |
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| Author: | zwackerm [ Wed Jun 08, 2022 3:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Good on the Rays. People shouldn't be forced to wear patches of any sort if they have nothing to do with your job, let alone ones that go against the teachings of your religion. |
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| Author: | Shack [ Wed Jun 08, 2022 3:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
I think it was just 5 players |
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| Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
DeSantis is now the only governor to jot pre-order FDA approved vaccines for small children. Horrific for someone I use to support and a far cry from the state that use to be a leader in vaccine access. Dude is on a populist power trip. |
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| Author: | Shack [ Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
If people are crazy enough to vaccinate kids under 5, they should do it on their own dollar |
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| Author: | Chippy [ Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Covid is a top 5 killer of kids under 5. But sure, be a fucking idiot. Just mind bogglingly idiotic. |
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