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| Author: | zwackerm [ Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
I mean, Biden will still be president so a lot of people who know who the president is and nothing else about the government will still vote against Biden in 2024 |
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| Author: | zwackerm [ Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
"Republicans are evil fuckers" lol. Tin foil hat much? People like Republican policies but not politicians. So if the Republicans blow their good will after the midterms it will be their own fault for nominating a moron like Trump or a RINO. |
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| Author: | Chippy [ Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Nobody likes Republican policies. You'd have to be completely not plugged into American politics to think people agree with Republican policies. |
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| Author: | zwackerm [ Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Chippy wrote: Nobody likes Republican policies. You'd have to be completely not plugged into American politics to think people agree with Republican policies. OK. It's not like there's a huge exit from blue states like california and New york to states like Texas and Florida. |
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| Author: | Shack [ Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Trump has a pretty high floor, he had a lot going against him in 2020 and still almost won. All he really needs is less popular Biden, and that's not considering possibility he's facing Harris who looks worse and worse |
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| Author: | Flava'd vs The World [ Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Harris will not be part of the final two. Ever. Nobody likes her. She had one star making performance at the first debate and has taken that momentum as far as it will go. I didn't want Biden to run again, but there doesn't appear to anyone else since Stacey is focusing on Georgia. |
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| Author: | Corpse [ Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
The Harris situation is bizarre. It can only boil down to her having significant character flaws, I think. She almost feels out of place? I don't really think she was a serious consideration to run in place of Biden in 2024 like some still believe (this will only be the case if Biden just can't physically/mentally run again, and he seems fine for the time being). But she should have certainly be a strong name in 2028, either as Biden's second-term replacement or just running herself. And the continued obsession with Trump by around 1/4 or 1/3 of the country is still very weird. I don't know how someone can put another up on this pedestal of full-on acceptance, support, appeasement, and as a person to basically become themselves. And I honestly can't respect anyone who are essentially dedicating their lives like that (in general, too, not just Trump in this case). It's... inhuman. They're not really... a person. |
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| Author: | zwackerm [ Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Kamala Harris is one of the funniest comedians in America with some of the best quotes. "It's time to do what we have been doing and that time is every day." "Because as we all know, elections matter. And when folks vote, they order what they want, and in this case they got what they asked for." "Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So, basically, that’s wrong, and it goes against everything that we stand for. |
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| Author: | Shack [ Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
I swear her IQ has fallen in half since 2020 |
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| Author: | Shack [ Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Imo the average person in the US is the right of the current Democrats policy wise and cares more about inflation and less about things like the environment and infrastructure spending than they do. |
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| Author: | Chippy [ Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
You just truly can't actually read anything, can you? The polling didn't ask about a SINGLE policy. It asked about vague "left wing!!!" policies and the democrats are "CATERING TO THE FAR LEFT OMFG". Not a single question on the poll actually asked voters about policies, which time and time again, the majority of the country has shown to APPROVE of left wing policies. But dumbasses like to use scare words and generalizations. Also, The Hill is Fox News lite, and this was an Opinion piece. Good lord at least try. |
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| Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
I think Zwack is right though in that inflation is one of the main focuses of the average voter and a lot, although misguided and sometimes inept, blame Biden as if he is some magical economic demon who has cursed the economy with his liberal boogeyman policies. Much of the economy’s issues are from fallout with the pandemic, OPEC, Putin, and honestly, the fallout from the Trade War with China from the Trump years and Trump’s poor relationship with NATO leading to weakened trade with Europe prior to the pandemic. I think the worst thing Biden has done in regards to the economy is the Keystone Pipeline situation, which I have said before is a bit overblown. |
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| Author: | Shack [ Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: I think Zwack is right though in that inflation is one of the main focuses of the average voter and a lot, although misguided and sometimes inept, blame Biden as if he is some magical economic demon who has cursed the economy with his liberal boogeyman policies. Much of the economy’s issues are from fallout with the pandemic, OPEC, Putin, and honestly, the fallout from the Trade War with China from the Trump years and Trump’s poor relationship with NATO leading to weakened trade with Europe prior to the pandemic. I think the worst thing Biden has done in regards to the economy is the Keystone Pipeline situation, which I have said before is a bit overblown. Even if it’s true Biden isn’t fully responsible, he still wanted to spend 5 trillion when inflation was already 5%. I’d say the intent matters as much as doing it in terms of approving of him, even if Manchin blocked the biggest move. The 1.9 trillion infrastructure they did pass also has no impact yet as it just became official now. |
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| Author: | zwackerm [ Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Chippy wrote: You just truly can't actually read anything, can you? The polling didn't ask about a SINGLE policy. It asked about vague "left wing!!!" policies and the democrats are "CATERING TO THE FAR LEFT OMFG". Not a single question on the poll actually asked voters about policies, which time and time again, the majority of the country has shown to APPROVE of left wing policies. But dumbasses like to use scare words and generalizations. Also, The Hill is Fox News lite, and this was an Opinion piece. Good lord at least try. The majority of voters approve of policies they think are closest to the center. Not "left wing or right wing" policies. Obama was able to portray himself as moderate, Trump was able to be portrayed as an extremist even though it was mainly his personality people didn't like rather than his policies, and Biden was also mainly elected as a more moderate alternative to Trump. If Democrats are able to successfully paint whoever the Rep nominee is in 2024 as an extremist, that will be the main reason they win rather than their actual policies. |
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| Author: | Flava'd vs The World [ Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
After the last two elections, I don't trust the polls at all. People purposely lie on them. |
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| Author: | Shack [ Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
zwackerm wrote: Chippy wrote: You just truly can't actually read anything, can you? The polling didn't ask about a SINGLE policy. It asked about vague "left wing!!!" policies and the democrats are "CATERING TO THE FAR LEFT OMFG". Not a single question on the poll actually asked voters about policies, which time and time again, the majority of the country has shown to APPROVE of left wing policies. But dumbasses like to use scare words and generalizations. Also, The Hill is Fox News lite, and this was an Opinion piece. Good lord at least try. The majority of voters approve of policies they think are closest to the center. Not "left wing or right wing" policies. Obama was able to portray himself as moderate, Trump was able to be portrayed as an extremist even though it was mainly his personality people didn't like rather than his policies, and Biden was also mainly elected as a more moderate alternative to Trump. If Democrats are able to successfully paint whoever the Rep nominee is in 2024 as an extremist, that will be the main reason they win rather than their actual policies. The closest people to the middle in terms of voters should be Manchin (most right wing Democrat) and Romney (most left wing Republican). If anything there are more conservatives since a higher % of minorities vote Democrat than you would expect just from their views. So since people like Biden and Pelosi have been acting a lot more progressive than Manchin in the last year based on Build Back Better, it would make sense to say they are left of the middle's views. |
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| Author: | Corpse [ Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Has the GOP (House) ever had a worse 24 hours? -Leaked (confirmed) photos of Cawthorn in women’s lingerie and sporting nice nail polish after he and others in the party back the "End of Men, go shirtless everywhere and do more manly things like tanning your balls!" thing Tucker and the GOP are promoting. Dude looks pretty good, though! Still a stupid douche, but perhaps a victim of sexual repression as is often the situation with many in these cases. -Greene having amnesia during her trial to see if she'll be disqualified to run for re-election, her defense being torn apart by her own works/actions as evidence. -Audio recording of McCarthy being caught in a direct lie, and exposed as a liar and coward. Being caught on tape (01/10/21) with GOP leadership (including Cheney!) saying how he'd have a discussion with Trump about resigning before he left office or risk being impeached by both chambers. After saying he never had such discussions (after Cheney said he did) and even kicking Cheney out of leadership because she voted for something he himself was recommending! Wow. I probably missed some stuff too. |
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| Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Sat Apr 23, 2022 1:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
Does it even matter? The GOP is immune to embarrassment and being held accountable. |
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| Author: | Shack [ Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
This will probably make MTG more popular |
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| Author: | Flava'd vs The World [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
MTG is accusing everyone and their mother of being a pedophile ... while standing right next to Matt Gaetz - an actual pedophile. Her fanbase doesn't care about things like breaking the law and telling the truth. |
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| Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
DeSantis might have just shot himself in the foot with trying to end Disney’s district in Florida. His loyal fans will root him on thinking he stuck it to the mouse, but a lot of people are starting to realize all he actually did was shift infrastructure burdens from Disney to the local counties of Orange and Osceola. DeSantis looked like the clear front runner to win in 2024, but this huge blunder might now cost him re-election |
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| Author: | Shack [ Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
The right may be splitting a bit into two sides that both consider the woke left a totalitarian existential threat, but disagree on both tactics against them. One school of logic is that conservatives must win at all costs even if it means copying their tactics with things like cancellation/censorship/labels, and that instead of merely just playing defense the left's enroachment on culture which has led to the right slowly losing ground for decades, they must play offense and start imposing conservative views on people themselves. DeSantis anti-Disney actions and the whole groomer thing would be popular to people with this POV. The alternative push back would be that you can't beat totalitarianism with totalitarianism, and that continuing to take a pro-free speech pro-constitutional high road is best route and has been working to sway people. Not sure if he agrees with her or not but Trump's former lawyer has been making anti-DeSantis posts taking that viewpoint. |
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| Author: | Corpse [ Wed May 04, 2022 7:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
I don't know if I feel "bad" for Cawthorn or not. A video of him, naked, leaked earlier where he's touching and humping his (male) cousin in bed. *Maybe* you can explain away the lingerie photos as silly drunk party acts (...), and I guess even the video where his cousin is reaching over and touching his crotch (no homo bro stuff?). But another video where he's naked in bed with him, humping him, where another guy is filming and saying to put it in his face next? I have little doubt they'll be an actual sex tape leaked if this one doesn't sink him. I don't actually feel bad because it reveals his hypocrisy, so he had it coming, but having people, presumably close friends and allies (or formally now, I guess) expose him (literally) draws *some* sympathy since he was likely raised to try and suppress himself and all that damaging nonsense. And those orgies he mentioned must have *some* truth to them after this. There are no doubt several (a few, at minimum) closeted gay/bi members in the GOP who'd invite a handsome young man like him over for, well, entertainment. |
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| Author: | Excel [ Wed May 04, 2022 8:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
I unfortunately saw the video on my timeline and it is no doubt a sarcastic piece of strange humor. It is not a sex tape and is, indeed, similar to the type of frat bro humor guys play on each other. It doesn't change the fact that Cawthorn is an exceptionally odd fellow who has no place in congress. |
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| Author: | Shack [ Thu May 05, 2022 2:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GOP 2024 |
It's clearly meant to be humor. The main thing the leaks prove is that Cawthorn likes to party and has the personality of a frat bro type guy. Yolo I guess. |
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