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| Author: | Krem [ Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | The Massachusetts Senate Race |
Wow, the Republican candidate Scott Brown is now ahead of Martha Coakley. In Massachusetts for crying out loud! This is the only state that has universal health care, on the basis of which the national legislation was formed. Now Obama is coming to the Bay state to help fix the situation: http://www.boston.com/news/local/massac ... nate_race/ |
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| Author: | Beeblebrox [ Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
Coakley is a terrible candidate with a tin ear. Scott Brown is a moderate Republican who has swung way right to appeal to the tea party nuts. If Brown wins, which seems probable, then I'd hope he'd pull a Romney and vote from his more moderate views. The ONLY reason to vote for Coakley, really, is to preserve the Dem supermajority in the Senate in order to pass health care reform. But at this point, I don't think the Dems deserve to keep their majority. |
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| Author: | Caius [ Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
Beeblebrox wrote: Coakley is a terrible candidate with a tin ear. Scott Brown is a moderate Republican who has swung way right to appeal to the tea party nuts. If Brown wins, which seems probable, then I'd hope he'd pull a Romney and vote from his more moderate views. The ONLY reason to vote for Coakley, really, is to preserve the Dem supermajority in the Senate in order to pass health care reform. But at this point, I don't think the Dems deserve to keep their majority. From a Democrat point of view, health care + her vote for when Justice Stevens (who last I checked had not hired clerks for next term, which is a major major sign of retirement and he will be 90) retires is the most important reason to vote for her. I'm starting to think that a Democrat president + a majority (not filibuster/veto proof) Republican Congress is the way to go. Both could check the other sides entrenching/baser instincts. |
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| Author: | Mandeep [ Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
I think its best Republicans start to press the democrats in the house and senate. Keep Obama in check and the democratic establishment. If the democrats keep all three houses they will grow complacent and enact stupid laws. |
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| Author: | Beeblebrox [ Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
Caius wrote: I'm starting to think that a Democrat president + a majority (not filibuster/veto proof) Republican Congress is the way to go. Both could check the other sides entrenching/baser instincts. The problem there is that absolutely no health care reform will happen under that scenario. And the health care industry right now is completely unsustainable. |
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| Author: | Groucho [ Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
She stupidly didn't campaign hard enough at first, just assuming she would win. It's hard to believe she's the best MA could come up with. A poor candidate who doesn't campaign is always in trouble... |
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| Author: | Mandeep [ Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
Hoping for a Republican win. Would make politics far more interesting. If Republicans come close to winning Mass... I think Democrats are in huge trouble for 2010 |
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| Author: | Excel [ Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
Voted for Brown, guy hasnt sounded that conservative, but more importantly, coakley is just an embarassment. |
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| Author: | Mandeep [ Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
 time to teach the democrats a lesson. I do not want republicans to take control, but Brown winning will at least make Obama and the Democrats not act so complacent. 2010 will be a bad year. I think this reasoning is behind why many Obama supporters will vote for Brown. Hoping for a big win for Brown, teach a good lesson. |
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| Author: | Excel [ Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
Brace yourselves; Scotty B isnt all that conservative. Britt Hume said it perfectly: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... crats.html This, and hopefully Pelosi and Reid getting bounced, will be the wake up Obama and espec. congress need to move back towards the middle in their agenda. |
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| Author: | Mandeep [ Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
Health Care reform is dead in its current form if Brown wins. If the democrats ram it through regardless, they are just asking for an asskicking in November. Better to go back to the drawing board. If 61% of the people oppose your plan, its best to rethink your idea. |
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| Author: | Caius [ Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
I think the Democrats would [gladly] suffer 1-2 election defeats for health care. Once it is in, it will be like Social Security and we won't get rid of it and it will be near impossible to reform. Plus they can run adds where Republicans are for killing kids. |
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| Author: | Eagle [ Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
Good news for the country, the filibuster proof majority was just going horribly awry. Hopefully this wakes up the Democrats as it's more of a referendum on their actions and politics than any rallying cry about Republican policy. The downside is this will make Republicans feel comfortable continuing many of the idiotic policies they continue to support, but considering they are the minority, that's an accepted loss in my opinion. |
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| Author: | Mandeep [ Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
holy crap its actually happening... 60% reporting reporting is 52.8% and 46.2% for Brown..  suburbs of Boston and Southern parts of the States is pulling in big numbers for Brown. |
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| Author: | Caius [ Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
AP called it and Coakley has conceded. |
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| Author: | Mandeep [ Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
wow, Politics in America has now changed greatly... |
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| Author: | Caius [ Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
Mandeep wrote: wow, Politics in America has now changed greatly... I wouldn't go that far. The fall elections are still far away. |
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| Author: | Krem [ Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
Great day for the country. Over/under on how long it takes the Senate to sit him? |
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| Author: | Excel [ Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
Best change Obama can deliver now is a change of course. |
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| Author: | Eagle [ Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
Krem wrote: Great day for the country. Over/under on how long it takes the Senate to sit him? Heard he can't even be sworn in until the 29th, which means if the Democrats really want to sink their own ship ... they can pass the House version of the health care bill before he gets seated. I doubt that happens, it'd be party suicide. |
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| Author: | Rev [ Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
She deserved to lose 
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| Author: | dolcevita [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
Argh. I understand it was a crummy, weak campaign, but really. MA just elected someone who admits that he pretty much disagrees with everything Kennedy has ever done. What a 180. Whaaaaaaat? |
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| Author: | Krem [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
Eagle wrote: Krem wrote: Great day for the country. Over/under on how long it takes the Senate to sit him? Heard he can't even be sworn in until the 29th, which means if the Democrats really want to sink their own ship ... they can pass the House version of the health care bill before he gets seated. I doubt that happens, it'd be party suicide. Why can't he be sworn in until the 29th? |
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| Author: | Krem [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
Beeblebrox wrote: Caius wrote: I'm starting to think that a Democrat president + a majority (not filibuster/veto proof) Republican Congress is the way to go. Both could check the other sides entrenching/baser instincts. The problem there is that absolutely no health care reform will happen under that scenario. And the health care industry right now is completely unsustainable. The bill as it is being discussed is even worse than the boondoggle we have now. Huge giveaway to insurance companies, no meaningful cost controls, no meaningful reform to the system, etc. Thanks, but no thanks. |
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| Author: | dolcevita [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Massachusetts Senate Race |
VOTE FOR HILLARY! |
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