Since George W Bush was the worst president we've had, just about anyone would be better than him.

I certainly am not happy with everything Obama has done but comparatively speaking, there's no contest.

I mean, come on. Under Bush we had the worst attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor, the worst depression since the Great Depression, the worst deficit ever in the history of the United States, the worst American national disaster with the worst federal response in history, the worst abuses of civil rights in generations, and the most corruption in the White House and Congress since Nixon. Even a mediocre President would look good after all that.

Under Bush we had the worst attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor,

just interesting how very few of the supporters from the 1st thread aren't defending obama now.

I mean, come on. Under Bush we had the worst attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor, the worst depression since the Great Depression, the worst deficit ever in the history of the United States, the worst American national disaster with the worst federal response in history, the worst abuses of civil rights in generations, and the most corruption in the White House and Congress since Nixon. Even a mediocre President would look good after all that.

Obama isn't doing ANYTHING differently. (blah blah rest of tirade deleted)

That's just ridiculous. While I agree that I don't like the fact that he hasn't done enough, to compare the 5% of abuses Obama is doing to the 100% Bush was doing shows a lack of knowledge or a not-very-well-hidden bias. Do I wish all the subterfuge had ended when Obama took over? Of course. Am I upset with him for not going far enough? You bet. But that doesn't mean I think there is no difference between Obama and Bush.

Your claim that Obama is overseeing "the greatest transfer of wealth from the working classes to the already wealthy this country has ever seen" is also faulty; he's lowered taxes on the middle class and tried to increase them on the wealthy. (Congress does stand in his way, you know). Unlike Bush, he gave stimulus money with requirements and conditions, such as having to pay it back (most already have) and limits on corporate salaries.

By the way, I like the way you criticize him for helping the rich and powerful while also criticizing him for trying to get affordable health care for the poor and uninsured. But, who needs consistency and logic when you've got a good rant going, hm?

Grill is one, if not the major, reason wherefore I consider democracy a essentially flawed concept.

well just a question from an total outsiders point of view....just curious what you think....well Obama made so many promises...like all the stimulus money will help out the jobs....now I hear...well the jobs progress is going slower because of the debt!!!!! WTF...everyone knew the debt would go up so WTF are you talking about.....and on the wars, here someone say that there is no way his promised dates will be meet > so why say them or is he stupid???

and then fine he wants to hit the mortgage and medical things > fine but can we afford it....

and nothing on social security for another decade...as that is going to be a nightmare and with so much excess money going out now to people that don't need it or deserve it and could be stopped. SOME TYPE OF MEANS TEST!

AND ALL THE IDIOTS BRAGGING ABOUT THE JOBS TODAY - ARE THEY STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow, who would have thought with Thanksgiving and Christmas upcoming, temp jobs would increase...and how many people each month fall out the unemployement ranks that they aren't counted in the numbers anymore....

I mean WTF?! Just a couple of starter questions off the top of my head - and nothing about Obama - who question whomever was in office.

You write like a slightly retarded Jack Keroac.

Why all the ellipsis's (some of them incorrectly formatted) and why are you an "outsider," especially when, not to defend Groucho, you ask biased questions?

You write like a slightly retarded Jack Keroac.

I'd vote for Argos's sentiment.

I laughed. Thank you.

well I always knew you were one fool who couldn't back up his answers....whatever!!!!

and on this worthless fool, I knew he wouldn't even try - pathetic big-mouth.

well just a question from an total outsiders point of view....just curious what you think....well Obama made so many promises...like all the stimulus money will help out the jobs....now I hear...well the jobs progress is going slower because of the debt!!!!! WTF...everyone knew the debt would go up so WTF are you talking about.....and on the wars, here someone say that there is no way his promised dates will be meet > so why say them or is he stupid???

and then fine he wants to hit the mortgage and medical things > fine but can we afford it....

and nothing on social security for another decade...as that is going to be a nightmare and with so much excess money going out now to people that don't need it or deserve it and could be stopped. SOME TYPE OF MEANS TEST!

AND ALL THE IDIOTS BRAGGING ABOUT THE JOBS TODAY - ARE THEY STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow, who would have thought with Thanksgiving and Christmas upcoming, temp jobs would increase...and how many people each month fall out the unemployement ranks that they aren't counted in the numbers anymore....

I mean WTF?! Just a couple of starter questions off the top of my head - and nothing about Obama - who question whomever was in office.