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Author:  Jedi Master Carr [ Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:40 pm ]
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In honor of President's Day C-Span Ranked the presidents.
http://www.c-span.org/PresidentialSu...ip-survey.aspx

Some of the list is okay, but I think they rank some presidents too high like Kennedy, Reagan, and Truman none of them belong that high.

If I had to rank the top 10 and bottom 10 I would do it this way (I think you have to exclude William Henry Harrison and Garfield neither was president for more than 3 months.)
1 Lincoln
2 Jefferson
3 FDR
4 Theodore Roosevelt
5 Washington
6 James Madison
7 Harry Truman
8 James Polk
9 Woodrow Wilson
10 John Adams
Bottom 5
40 Harding
39 Buchanan
38 Grant
37 Pierce
36 Filmore
Author:  Timayd [ Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:09 pm ]
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I think it's kind of unfair to rank W.H. Harrison. I mean he really didn't do anything.
Author:  Jim Halpert [ Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:13 pm ]
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i always find the JFK top 10 to be to much. He just didn't serve long enough to be in the top 10. I'd also have Ike and Reagan higher. LBJ being so high is odd too.
Author:  Jedi Master Carr [ Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:42 pm ]
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Timayd wrote:
I think it's kind of unfair to rank W.H. Harrison. I mean he really didn't do anything.

Him and Garfield, they both died very early in their terms that they shouldn't be ranked.
Author:  Beeblebrox [ Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:47 pm ]
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I don't have a lot of quibbles with it. I would have ranked Dubya a lot lower. ;)

I think you have to include Harrison for the simple fact that he was president and any inclusive list would have him on it.
Author:  Timayd [ Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:54 pm ]
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Jedi Master Carr wrote:
Timayd wrote:
I think it's kind of unfair to rank W.H. Harrison. I mean he really didn't do anything.

Him and Garfield, they both died very early in their terms that they shouldn't be ranked.


But at least Garfield's death provided a boost for Civil Service reform. Harrison only provided a test for succession.
Author:  Tyler [ Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:36 pm ]
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Woodrow Wilson? Are you shitting me?

As for LBJ, he got fucked by Vietnam, though his massive ego didn't help either.
Author:  Chippy [ Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:46 pm ]
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Beeblebrox wrote:
I don't have a lot of quibbles with it. I would have ranked Dubya a lot lower. ;)

I think you have to include Harrison for the simple fact that he was president and any inclusive list would have him on it.


There's a reason they didn't ask YOU to vote.
Author:  Chippy [ Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:47 pm ]
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I like the list. It's just another list.
Author:  torrino [ Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:52 pm ]
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Lyndon Johnson, outside of Vietnam, was an excellent president.

Don't take your local parks and theatres and etc for granted.
Author:  Tyler [ Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:04 pm ]
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da torri wrote:
Lyndon Johnson, outside of Vietnam, was an excellent president.

Don't take your local parks and theatres and etc for granted.


QFT.
Author:  junio [ Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:36 pm ]
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Bad link. :(
Author:  Beeblebrox [ Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:24 pm ]
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Rorschach wrote:
Any list that doesn't have GW or FDR as 1-2 (either way) has no merit.


I believe that GW is 2 and FDR is 3 (if I'm remembering that correctly), with Lincoln as 1. Not bad. ;)
Author:  Jedi Master Carr [ Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:51 pm ]
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Rorschach wrote:
Any list that doesn't have GW or FDR as 1-2 (either way) has no merit.


Lincoln was a better president than either one. The man did save our nation from splitting into pieces. I take Jefferson over those two as well. Jefferson was a genius.
Author:  Jim Halpert [ Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:17 pm ]
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I gotta agree with Jefferson. The man did amazing things for the country. Plus you gotta love a dude that dies and leaves just millions of dollars of debt for his family to deal with.
Author:  Jedi Master Carr [ Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:43 am ]
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Nite Owl wrote:
I gotta agree with Jefferson. The man did amazing things for the country. Plus you gotta love a dude that dies and leaves just millions of dollars of debt for his family to deal with.

Well there are couple of reasons for that. First he was a tobacco planter most of those guys were in debt when they died. Second he put a lot of his money into building the University of Virginia and it was a failure at the time that put him into debt.
Author:  Jim Halpert [ Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:40 pm ]
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Jedi Master Carr wrote:
Nite Owl wrote:
I gotta agree with Jefferson. The man did amazing things for the country. Plus you gotta love a dude that dies and leaves just millions of dollars of debt for his family to deal with.

Well there are couple of reasons for that. First he was a tobacco planter most of those guys were in debt when they died. Second he put a lot of his money into building the University of Virginia and it was a failure at the time that put him into debt.


yes i know, i wrote a college paper on him. I was just saying it because I still find it hilarious
Author:  Jedi Master Carr [ Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:10 pm ]
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Nite Owl wrote:
Jedi Master Carr wrote:
Nite Owl wrote:
I gotta agree with Jefferson. The man did amazing things for the country. Plus you gotta love a dude that dies and leaves just millions of dollars of debt for his family to deal with.

Well there are couple of reasons for that. First he was a tobacco planter most of those guys were in debt when they died. Second he put a lot of his money into building the University of Virginia and it was a failure at the time that put him into debt.


yes i know, i wrote a college paper on him. I was just saying it because I still find it hilarious


yeah poor Jefferson, that was another reason he didn't free his slaves because if he had his creditors would have took his house.
Author:  Tyler [ Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:14 pm ]
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Jefferson was an asshole who'd have probably sided with the Confederates.

Hamilton was the best president we never had.
Author:  Skyblade [ Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:47 pm ]
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I always wanted to make a movie where time travellers go back in time to kill Hitler, but one double crosses them and goes after Millard Filmore "for being so boring". He arrives at his destination, with Filmore at diner remarking "The nutrition is palpable". Rogue traveller plugs him screaming "Shut up! You bland fucking bastard, shut up!" When they arrive in the present day, they find out modern world lacks indoor plumbing.

What have you doooooone?
Author:  Jedi Master Carr [ Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:21 pm ]
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Anton Chigurh wrote:
Jefferson was an asshole who'd have probably sided with the Confederates.

Hamilton was the best president we never had.


Jefferson hated slavery, he called it an abomination. He tried to pass a bill that would stop Slavery from going to the territories but it was shot down by SC and the other southern states. The man was a genius and to me one of our greatest president. If Hamilton had become president he would have declared himself Emperor of North American the man was a sociopath who wanted power.
Author:  Tyler [ Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:29 pm ]
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Yes, but it was over 200 years ago now. It's going past "this guy was an asshole" and closer to "this guy would make a great fucking movie". Think Genghis Khan.
Author:  Tyler [ Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:35 pm ]
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It had the potential, though.

Hell, it all explains my hard-on for LBJ and Nixon. Crazy as hell, but their narcissism was an artform.
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