I mean seriously, lets take a look here:

Bill Richardson: Commerce Secretary: withdraws due to possible scandal

Tom Daschle: HHS: withdraws due to tax controversy

Nancy Killefer: Chief Performance Officer: withdraws due to tax controversy

Tim Geithner: Treasury Secretary: voted in but also had tax controversy


So seriously, what is the deal here? And can we finally agree with after some of the high profile scandals that we have seen from democrats over the past year, both parties are equally corrupt?

All of it seems linked to Tax Related problems. Yes, obvious considering 3/4 have been, 1 being unknown. I'm guessing either the questions related to this issue weren't good enough, too few, etc. or some thought it wouldn't be brought up and everyone Obama picked would be confirmed right from the start.

Dunno, we'll see what happens.

It's also well known politics is a dirty game, and no politician is clean. Comes down to who can hide that dirt the best. Even the nice guy's like Edwards and Richardson for example.

I think a lot of Americans have tax problems. I know people who still owe on their taxes.

They're both corrupt, but it's a stretch to say they're equally corrupt. First of all, I would not classify failure to pay taxes as corrupt. If that were the case, then is Joe The Plumber corrupt for not paying his $1200 property taxes? Delinquent and irresponsible? Yes. Corrupt? No.

Contrast that with WAR CRIMES of the Bush administration and I don't see anything on the Dem side that compares. Edwards had an affair. Daschle didn't pay his taxes. Bush ordered the torture and indefinite detention of dozens of detainees.

It's a false equivalence.

And there's another key difference. Here was Obama's reaction today to Daschle's withdrawal:

"I’ve got to own up to my mistake. Ultimately, it's important for this administration to send a message that there aren't two sets of rules — you know, one for prominent people and one for ordinary folks who have to pay their taxes. I'm frustrated with myself, with our team. ... I'm here on television saying I screwed up," Obama said on NBC.

During his 8 years, did Bush EVER admit to screwing up? Did he ever own up to anything? Obama has done it after just 2 weeks.

Yup. It was the Dems who doubled the national debt in just 8 years, after inheriting a surplus. It was the Dems who lied us into a $1 trillion war. It was the Dems who turned American into a torture state. It was the Dems who advocated warrantless wiretapping of Americans with no court oversight. It was the Dems who lost millions of jobs and deregulated the banking industry (actually that was Clinton too, although it was a Republican bill). It was the Dems who pushed for abstinence-only "education." It was the Dems who waged a war against science, denied global warming and evolution, and pushed religion in the classroom.

Nope. That was all Republicans. And now Obama has to clean up their huge fucking mess. No, it's not going to be pretty or cheap, because the mess left in the wake of Republican rule is literally unprecedented.

Are you honestly going to suggest that Obama nominating Daschle is the same level of mistake as all that?

Pointing out the flat tire on one car does not make your own Lada better Beeble. If you continue to use hyperbole then you cannot expect any interesting debate.

As for Dems and torture, was it not a Dem administration that allowed the genocide of the Khmer Rouge to occur which was directly caused by the US despite the pathetic denial of it by people like Noam Chomsky and co. And might I add this was all documented by Susan Power a foreign policy advisor of Obama and a damn fine war reporter.

See everyone can stifle debate with absolutest nonsense.

Questioning the process is different from saying "DEMS ARE SHIT." The administration has owned up the mistake. It remains to be seen if they'll learn from it.



But also criticized with perspective and proportionality. Conservatives and Republicans would obviously love to forget about Bush and, like Nite Owl and you have done, pretend that all mistakes are created equal.

They are not.

In this analogy, Obama has a busted tail light while Bush set his car on fire, blew it up, and then rolled it off a cliff. And Republicans are going, "See? They're both bad drivers."

Fair enough.

This was always dangerous, and may continue to be dangerous. A false reality of sorts. And some of the "Elect Obama, and Washington will change forever, etc." talk also bothered me because so many believe everything will be fixed now. What's going to happen is these groups of people will likely go into some denial mode and start blaming the Republicans for a plan that might not happen or something.

It's really not a time to start pointing fingers. I like that Obama and Daschle have both been quite up front with this even though Obama made a mistake here and Daschle was irresponsible.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/200 ... id=topnews

The nominee for Labor Sect has some tax issues as well (well, her husband anyway).

"Its real easy for Democrats to not care about cutting taxes when they arent paying them"

i've heard that before, i laughed

LOL. Very true.