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 California It seems to me that it's something of a blessing that the state is entirely uncompetitive for the Republicans, just as NY and Texas are at this point, because the money required to buy ads in some of the markets in the state would be obscenely huge.
On the other hand, it does a bit odd that the last few elections have been decided by a handful or so states while the majority have been on the side.
Thoughts?
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Groucho
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Re: California This is always a problem with the electoral college. Instead of running as President of the people, the candidates run as President of the ten or so battleground states, ignoring anyone who lives elsewhere.
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Beeblebrox
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Re: California Groucho wrote: This is always a problem with the electoral college. Instead of running as President of the people, the candidates run as President of the ten or so battleground states, ignoring anyone who lives elsewhere. On the flip side, without the electoral college, the candidates would run as the President of the big cities, or even President of New York and California. Either way, someone is going to get ignored.
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Re: California Magnus wrote: Electoral college makes absolute no sense to me anymore. It's a stupid system that may have seemed logical 200 years ago but makes no sense now. I am honestly shocked that even after the 2000 Election this system is still in place. The government is indeed idiotic. Without it the Reps and Dems would splinter into 20 to 30 different parties and the US would become like Italy.
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Mr. Reynolds
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Re: California Is there such a thing as a conservative, mostly republican big city? I suspect no. I wonder why? hmmm.....
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Groucho
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Re: California Beeblebrox wrote: Groucho wrote: This is always a problem with the electoral college. Instead of running as President of the people, the candidates run as President of the ten or so battleground states, ignoring anyone who lives elsewhere. On the flip side, without the electoral college, the candidates would run as the President of the big cities, or even President of New York and California. Either way, someone is going to get ignored. Yeah, but shouldn't the President go where the people are? I mean, isn't he/she supposed to be President of the people and not the states? _________________Buy my books! http://michaelaventrella.com
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Gulli
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Re: California Magnus wrote: Gulli wrote: Without it the Reps and Dems would splinter into 20 to 30 different parties and the US would become like Italy. The party system won't die with the electoral college. Though I do agree that without it, third-parties would have a bigger impact and the strength/size of Dems/Republicans would go down. But there would still be two dominant parties. The Electoral college and the Presidential prize is the only thing keeping these two loose parties together. Without it they break up. Why pander to everyone when you can just pander to the big eastern seaboard cities or the Midwest rust belt or the Religious areas.
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Mannyisthebest
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Re: California Quote: he party system won't die with the electoral college. Though I do agree that without it, third-parties would have a bigger impact and the strength/size of Dems/Republicans would go down. But there would still be two dominant parties. Don't be so happy about third parties. In Canada the third party is a Party that advocates the breaking up Canada! Our fourth party is a Socialist party that plans to make Canada into Cuba. Do you really want that in the States??? _________________The Dark Prince 
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Beeblebrox
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Re: California Mannyisthebest wrote: Quote: he party system won't die with the electoral college. Though I do agree that without it, third-parties would have a bigger impact and the strength/size of Dems/Republicans would go down. But there would still be two dominant parties. Don't be so happy about third parties. In Canada the third party is a Party that advocates the breaking up Canada! Our fourth party is a Socialist party that plans to make Canada into Cuba. Do you really want that in the States??? One of our two major parties hates government, has launched two wars that haven't ended, advocated and authorized the use of torture on its own citizens, has run up $5 trillion in debt, authorized the use of wiretapping and indefinite detention on its own citizens, and thinks that anyone that disagrees with them is a traitor. Could a three party system be worse?
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