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If or When a False Flag happens, who will you believe...
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nghtvsn
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 If or When a False Flag happens, who will you believe...
http://thinkprogress.org/EXCLUSIVE: To Provoke War, Cheney Considered Proposal To Dress Up Navy Seals As Iranians And Shoot At ThemQuote: Speaking at the Campus Progress journalism conference earlier this month, Seymour Hersh  a Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist for The New Yorker  revealed that Bush administration officials held a meeting recently in the Vice President’s office to discuss ways to provoke a war with Iran.
In Hersh’s most recent article, he reports that this meeting occurred in the wake of the overblown incident in the Strait of Hormuz, when a U.S. carrier almost shot at a few small Iranian speedboats. The “meeting took place in the Vice-President’s office. ‘The subject was how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington,’†according to one of Hersh’s sources.
During the journalism conference event, I asked Hersh specifically about this meeting and if he could elaborate on what occurred. Hersh explained that, during the meeting in Cheney’s office, an idea was considered to dress up Navy Seals as Iranians, put them on fake Iranian speedboats, and shoot at them. This idea, intended to provoke an Iran war, was ultimately rejected:
HERSH: There was a dozen ideas proffered about how to trigger a war. The one that interested me the most was why don’t we build  we in our shipyard  build four or five boats that look like Iranian PT boats. Put Navy seals on them with a lot of arms. And next time one of our boats goes to the Straits of Hormuz, start a shoot-up.
Might cost some lives. And it was rejected because you can’t have Americans killing Americans. That’s the kind of  that’s the level of stuff we’re talking about. Provocation. But that was rejected.
Hersh argued that one of the things the Bush administration learned during the encounter in the Strait of Hormuz was that, “if you get the right incident, the American public will support†it.
“Look, is it high school? Yeah,†Hersh said. “Are we playing high school with you know 5,000 nuclear warheads in our arsenal? Yeah we are. We’re playing, you know, who’s the first guy to run off the highway with us and Iran.†Time to review that first incident and why it failed to cause a blowup. I don't know if we're going to be able to transition to a new govt without incident during these last 6 months of this mafia running things.
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Anita Hussein Briem
Yes we can call dibs on the mountain guide
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:47 pm Posts: 3290 Location: Houston
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 Re: If or When a False Flag happens, who will you believe...
To think the Reichstag Fire was an act of genius is to give too much credit to Nazi strategists. Of course anybody with common sense has thought of something like it. People walking down the street too have as well.
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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm Posts: 4767
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Actually, the Nazi's did do something like this with a German radio station operating in Polish territory. They dressed Nazi's as Poles and then attacked the station to incite hatred against the Poles.
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Bradley Witherberry
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Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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 Re: If or When a False Flag happens, who will you believe...
Same ones I believed in all the most recent false flags...
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Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:35 pm |
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Beeblebrox
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Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:40 pm Posts: 4679
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I don't put anything past these scumbags, but I'd like to see a little more evidence that this actually happened.
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Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:16 pm |
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Anita Hussein Briem
Yes we can call dibs on the mountain guide
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:47 pm Posts: 3290 Location: Houston
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Beeblebrox wrote: I don't put anything past these scumbags, but I'd like to see a little more evidence that this actually happened. It's probably someone with a good imagination, that's all. While I find most liberals quite sensible, they quickly fall off a cliff as you move leftward. 
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Beeblebrox
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Harvey Hussein Dent wrote: While I find most liberals quite sensible, they quickly fall off a cliff as you move leftward.  Whereas conservatives tend to be batshit crazy right out of the gate. 
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Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:54 pm |
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Anita Hussein Briem
Yes we can call dibs on the mountain guide
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:47 pm Posts: 3290 Location: Houston
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Beeblebrox wrote: Harvey Hussein Dent wrote: While I find most liberals quite sensible, they quickly fall off a cliff as you move leftward.  Whereas conservatives tend to be batshit crazy right out of the gate.  "Batshit crazy" is a cultural term. Every culture has a temperamental spectrum of people ranging from batshit-skeptical to batshit-reactionary. The tinfoil hatters that live in fear of conformity, and the sheltered bigots that live in fear of difference. A healthy civilization needs the entire spectrum of temperaments to keep itself in check. Perhaps surprisingly, the temperamental spectrum does not always align with the political spectrum; for instance, in Palestine a suicide bomber is a temperamental liberal and a political conservative. I am, for one, temperamentally liberal and politically center-right. It's an odd state of being in this time and day; American culture has never been as left-left and right-right aligned as it is now.
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