The new talking point for Republicans seems to be that you can't elect Obama because he changes his positions.

Hmmm.... I wonder if McCain has ever changed his position?

* McCain supported the drilling moratorium; now he’s against it.

* McCain was perfectly comfortable with the idea of a windfall profits tax on oil companies. Now he's against it..

* McCain thought Bush’s warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.

* McCain defended “privatizing” Social Security. Now he says he’s against privatization (though he actually still supports it.)

* McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn’t.

* McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.

* He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.”

* McCain believes the telecoms should be forced to explain their role in the administration’s warrantless surveillance program as a condition for retroactive immunity. He used to believe the opposite.

* McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.

* McCain supported moving “towards normalization of relations” with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.

* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.

* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.

* He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party’s policy making. Now he believes the opposite.

* McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesn’t.

* McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions.

* McCain is both for and against attacking Barack Obama over his former pastor at his former church.

* McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off than they were before Bush took office.

* McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.

* In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.

* McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty’s behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.

* McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants’ kids who graduate from high school. Now he’s against it.

* On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own legislation.

* In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving “feedback” on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com...ves/15924.html

Even they know that this is a weak argument against Obama because of McCain. None of the stupid crap that worked against Kerry is going to work. McCain is now the most absentee Senator (remember when they cared that Kerry kept missing votes?) McCain is by far the biggest flip flopper (remember when flip-flopping was simply unconscionable to them?). McCain is married to a rich heiress (remember when that made Kerry an elitist?).

And after the McCain camp said that we're all just a bunch of "whiners" and that the bad economy is all "psychological" because he and his rich buddies are doing just fine, it's ridiculous for them to accuse Obama of being elitist over his remarks about guns and religion.

And Obama voted for a FISA bill that they wanted while McCain missed the vote.

They're running out of issues. So expect them to get even more clownish and ridiculous as they get more and more desperate.

Who he apparently took on as a mistress while still married to his first wife.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... full.story





Margaret Dumont: "Why, that's bigamy!"

Groucho: "Yes, and it's big o' me too! Let's all be big for a change."

You guys just keep trying to bash the Republicans when really...

Who cares anymore?

Nobody here disagrees with you really. You're just posting this mindless stuff to make yourself feel better.

I mean, what the hell is the point anymore?

After eight years of being bashed for being "American hating terrorist sympthisers", maybe we just want to get it out of our system.

Actually, there are people here who continue to defend Republican policies and McCain. Admittedly (and thankfully) there aren't many, but isn't it a worthwhile goal to turn anyone you can away from the Dark Side?

Also, this is the politics forum, where we talk about...um...politics.

And finally, Republicans deserve bashing for being anti-science, anti-poor-people, anti-environment, anti-gay, anti-immigrant, racist, pro-rich-people, pro-corporate, pro-torture, war-mongering, big government, fiscally irresponsible religious fanatics.

Whatever. You can have your games. Be children. Nobody here is falling for it anymore.

And Groucho, I thought you were better than Beeble?

Ah, the Munk-E "I hope Democrats get destroyed" troll is back. Isn't it interesting how "no one disagrees with us" and yet "no one's buying it any more"? Kind of like how you don't see parties and yet you hope Democrats get destroyed.

If you're trying troll for comments, there are less stupid ways of doing it.

Please understand that, given the views you have expressed here many times, your opinion doesn't have much weight with me.

Is there a reason why smugness permeates everything you write? You could learn a thing or two from Obama.

He has always been this way. I and many others have known that he is the thickest headed person I have/will ever know.

Funny. You certainly don't seem to take issue with Munk-E coming into the thread and starting out by insulting Groucho and me. Nothing smug about that? Please. Why pretend like that's the issue here?

Second, I'm not Obama and I'm not interested in being polite to your party and its embrace of gay-bashing, fiscal insanity, rejection of science, religious impositions, illegal wire-tapping, torture, and never-ending wars. Especially not after, as Groucho pointed out, Republicans regularly accuse liberals of being America-hating terrorist-sympathizing traitors.

Just because people think your insane doesn't mean that those people are republicans Beeble.

You're a fucking broken record.