I find it utterly ridiculous that people will judge someone on their PASTOR.
I mean, I love Obama even though I know God doesn't exist.
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Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:48 pm
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Re: Obama's Pastor Is Sinking Him FAST
Who knows how this will affect his campaign. Just like who knows how Ferrearo's (sp, not looking her up) comments will hurt Clinton's. Though, both Obama and Clinton have dismissed the comments, and both have quit the campaign. Ultimately, I doubt it's going to have any noticable affect since PA is still over a month away. More stuff is going to surface and overshadow this stuff.
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Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:55 pm
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Re: Obama's Pastor Is Sinking Him FAST
yeah, this story came and went before you posted this thread. it will not change his inevitable win.
Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:17 pm
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Re: Obama's Pastor Is Sinking Him FAST
kypade wrote:
yeah, this story came and went before you posted this thread. it will not change his inevitable win.
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Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:22 pm
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Who knows how this will affect his campaign. Just like who knows how Ferrearo's (sp, not looking her up) comments will hurt Clinton's. Though, both Obama and Clinton have dismissed the comments, and both have quit the campaign. Ultimately, I doubt it's going to have any noticable affect since PA is still over a month away. More stuff is going to surface and overshadow this stuff.
The pastor was never even a part of the campaign so how can he quit something he wasn't a part of?
**corrected** “Rev. Wright is no longer serving on the African American Religious Leadership Committee.â€Â
Ferraro was just stupid. Wright was just preaching his opinionated truth.
IN ADDITION, his relationship with wright hasn't been a SECRET and nor has the rev's Preachings, yet maybe because the "conservative" hosts like hannity and limbaugh have been drudging this up to no end lately is the reason it's come to the forefront.
Lastly, this won't change the inevitable of Obama winning the dem nod, but it will probably be a purse size problem in the general election.
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Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:40 am
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Re: Obama's Pastor Is Sinking Him FAST
It's still bad. That pastor was over the top, and Obama should have seen that coming. However, it will have blown over mostly by the time of the election.
I heard about it like 2 days ago... And I haven't really heard anything on it since.
Then obviously you haven't been watching FOX News cause it's the main headline and a pretty big deal if I may say so....
This being the top story on Fox News every half hour shouldn't surprise anyone and doesn't make it a "big deal" either. The real question is why this and why now. I think this shows just how afraid the RNC is of Obama when they are trying desperately to pounce on him instead of Hillary since they know Hillary would be easier to beat.
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Kids, grow up. In a heated election, everybody sinks fast. What matters is who sinks less in the end. Both candidates have a lot of sinking yet to come, both Obama and McCain. Democrats that think this election will be a cakewalk should remember the vaunted JFK's slim 0.2% victory over Richard Nixon.
What's with the parade of resignations anyhow? In my opinion, neither Gerry Ferraro nor Samantha Power deserved the merde. Is politics supposed to be a tea party or something?
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Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:26 pm
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Re: Obama's Pastor Is Sinking Him FAST
The Incredible BKB wrote:
Munk·E wrote:
I find it utterly ridiculous that people will judge someone on their PASTOR.
I mean, I love Obama even though I know God doesn't exist.
How do you know God doesn't exist?? You have proof that he or she doesn't???
How do you know he does? Isn't the burden on you to prove it?
I know God doesn't exist in the same way I know unicorns don't exist. Now, if someone suddenly finds evidence of a unicorn, then I may change my mind, but until then, I think I can be pretty confident in my knowledge.
How do you know he does? Isn't the burden on you to prove it?
That goes both ways. This not being criminal justice, either an affirmative or negative assumption is acceptable.
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Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:30 pm
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Re: Obama's Pastor Is Sinking Him FAST
Angela Merkel wrote:
Groucho wrote:
How do you know he does? Isn't the burden on you to prove it?
That goes both ways. This not being criminal justice, either an affirmative or negative assumption is acceptable.
I disagree with that. The burden is always on the person claiming something exists to prove it.
If I claim leprechauns exist, would you accept that? If not, would I win the argument by saying "Aha! You didn't prove they don't, therefore they must exist!"? No, logic doesn't work that way.
Logic is not a universal language when it comes to certain topics. Skepticism is minority phenomenon; my time spent on the campaign trail confirms that. If every American citizen's beliefs are to make sense, liberals would win every election. Logic is unintelligible to those that do not speak it.
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Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:38 pm
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Re: Obama's Pastor Is Sinking Him FAST
Munk·E wrote:
Angela Merkel wrote:
Munk·E wrote:
There is more proof against God than for God.
There is no such thing as proof against God.
The lack of proof is proof.
YOU'RE ALL GOING OFF TOPIC!!!
You dont need proof, you need to believe,thats why its called "faith"
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