Well, Michigan should be a revote. Florida, well, Obama was on ballot. They just choose not to vote for him.

they broke the rules. If they are going to let the delegates count though, there should be a revote. You cant just hand them to hillary.

Well I agree with that. When I said they shouldn't run them again I meant they should just ignore those delegates or divide them equally. If it comes to revote or give them to hillary yeah they'd have to revote.

I agree the best compromise is to revote, whether it's a primary or caucus (more practical and realistic) style. The ironic thing will be that by allowing revote, the two states in fact become the most important ones, the status they were trying to seek by defying party rule and moving their dates early; hardly a punishment, I'd say. Maybe revote and seat only half of the delegates?

Yep. I think you follow the mold of the Republicans, strip them of 50% of their delegates, allow 3 weeks notice and put the primaries on the same day in early April.

None of the democrats campaigned there besides Clinton, that's why she won. And they didn't campaign there because all of the democratic candidates including Clinton had signed onto the agreement by the DNC asking them not to campaign there. Florida had moved it's primary up too early and they were trying to, rightly or wrongly, impose some discipline. Holding it again is silly and will make the Democrats look bad. It will also cost an estimated 18 million to hold the primaries again.

Howard Dean drew a line in the sand today. Either the state parties can organize new primaries themselves, or Clinton can broker a deal with Obama. Both are unlikely to happen. So don't hold your breath on that one, guys.

doesnt look like anythings happening soon...



Look, everybody knows its unfair to supress voters. Unfortunately, it is still more unfair to go back and redo as if the rules did not count. The other 25+ states that have voted followed them.

EITHER WAY some gets screwed-if they count, Obama does, if they dont, Hillarey does. No way is really fair.

HOWEVER, coming to the conclusion by following the rules is more fair than coming tothe conclusion by ignoring them. That is the most logical solution and seems to be the most likely.

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he has a virtually insuramountable lead in total votes, and she needs to win 585 of the remaining delegates to close the gap.

So no, its VERY likely Obama wins both of them.

Clinton should release a statement like:

"In the interest of Democracy, my campaign would like to offer to pay for 50% of any costs incurred to facilitate a re-vote in Michigan and Florida. Because of Mr. Obama's firm belief in the power of the democratic process, I believe you will find him equally willing to pay the remaining 50% of costs."