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Author: | redfirebird2008 [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:24 pm ] |
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http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/polit ... obama.html A lawyer in a predominantly Democratic suburb of Cleveland relates this tale to The Swamp on the day before the all-important Ohio primary: Quote: So last night around dinner time, the phone rings. It’s the Hillary campaign–official number, per the caller ID. The woman on the other end asks me if Hillary can count on my support Tuesday. I say I have not decided. She asks what would help me decide. I say, “Well . . . maybe she can make Bill her vice president.†She does not know how to take me, of course, but has to assume I am serious. “I don’t think she can do that.†“Bill will have a significant role in major decisions, though, won’t he?†I ask. “Oh, certainly he will be very involved. Do you like Bill?†“Very much.†I reply. She then launches into a two-minute spiel on all the very specific initiatives and proposals Hillary has put forth on health care, the war in Iraq, etc., etc. At the end of her spiel, she says, “And we haven’t heard anything that specific from Osama bin Laden.†I say, “You did not just say that.†She replies, “I’m sorry . . . just a slip of the tongue.†She then thanks me for my time and encourages me to vote for Hillary on Tuesday. The lawyer says he was "stunned" and tells The Swamp the call originated from the Clinton campaign in Columbus. Are the dirty tricks ramping up as we get down to the wire? Swamp readers in Ohio and Texas, relate your own encounters with the Clinton or Obama campaigns if you've had them. |
Author: | Excel [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:26 pm ] |
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Hillary cant control everything her people say. |
Author: | redfirebird2008 [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:31 pm ] |
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Mista Nasty Time wrote: Hillary cant control everything her people say. She can clearly lay down the rules for her phone volunteers and tell them to strictly go by the literature provided to them. |
Author: | Excel [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:35 pm ] |
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thats true, but im sure there are hundereds of people on both sides who are like this. |
Author: | redfirebird2008 [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:44 pm ] |
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Mista Nasty Time wrote: thats true, but im sure there are hundereds of people on both sides who are like this. I've called for Obama and the instructions tell you not to mention the other candidate when talking about Obama's policies. If the person says they are a Clinton supporter, you are supposed to thank them for their time and say good bye. |
Author: | Excel [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:47 pm ] |
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im sure she does too; the person prob. just went off |
Author: | Jim Halpert [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:48 pm ] |
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oh who cares. Redfire, you need to pull back your Obama love just a little bit man. This isnt despicable or anything, it's typical politics. |
Author: | redfirebird2008 [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:52 pm ] |
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Jayhawk wrote: oh who cares. Redfire, you need to pull back your Obama love just a little bit man. This isnt despicable or anything, it's typical politics. Typical? Calling someone Osama bin Laden is typical? ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Jim Halpert [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:54 pm ] |
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redfirebird2008 wrote: Jayhawk wrote: oh who cares. Redfire, you need to pull back your Obama love just a little bit man. This isnt despicable or anything, it's typical politics. Typical? Calling someone Osama bin Laden is typical? ![]() ![]() Obama's name has been so abused this election already that yes it already is becoming typical. I hate dirty politics and wish we didnt have to see them but we going to this election and every other election, just kind of have to move on. Yes I am the same Jayhawk, but I've accepted McCain is getting the nomination and am now supporting him. |
Author: | redfirebird2008 [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:58 pm ] |
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Jayhawk wrote: Obama's name has been so abused this election already that yes it already is becoming typical. I hate dirty politics and wish we didnt have to see them but we going to this election and every other election, just kind of have to move on. Yes I am the same Jayhawk, but I've accepted McCain is getting the nomination and am now supporting him. Did you vote for Bush? If so, then you apparently weren't tired of dirty politics back then. His fear-mongering is probably some of the most obvious since the "daisy" mushroom cloud ad back in the day. Karl Rove is a very effective fear-mongerer. ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Jim Halpert [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:01 pm ] |
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redfirebird2008 wrote: Jayhawk wrote: Obama's name has been so abused this election already that yes it already is becoming typical. I hate dirty politics and wish we didnt have to see them but we going to this election and every other election, just kind of have to move on. Yes I am the same Jayhawk, but I've accepted McCain is getting the nomination and am now supporting him. Did you vote for Bush? If so, then you apparently weren't tired of dirty politics back then. His fear-mongering is probably some of the most obvious since the "daisy" mushroom cloud ad back in the day. Karl Rove is a very effective fear-mongerer. ![]() ![]() Yes I voted for Bush. I didnt vote for him because I was swayed with what he aired. I voted for him because John Kerry was so far left, him and I shared very little in common. I'm ultra-right. Me voting for someone who is ultra-left is simply not going to happen. |
Author: | redfirebird2008 [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:05 pm ] |
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Jayhawk wrote: redfirebird2008 wrote: Jayhawk wrote: Obama's name has been so abused this election already that yes it already is becoming typical. I hate dirty politics and wish we didnt have to see them but we going to this election and every other election, just kind of have to move on. Yes I am the same Jayhawk, but I've accepted McCain is getting the nomination and am now supporting him. Did you vote for Bush? If so, then you apparently weren't tired of dirty politics back then. His fear-mongering is probably some of the most obvious since the "daisy" mushroom cloud ad back in the day. Karl Rove is a very effective fear-mongerer. ![]() ![]() Yes I voted for Bush. I didnt vote for him because I was swayed with what he aired. I voted for him because John Kerry was so far left, him and I shared very little in common. I'm ultra-right. Me voting for someone who is ultra-left is simply not going to happen. Bush's spending habits are about as far left as can be. Pretty funny how the conservative movement has been hijacked recently by big spending neo-cons. Bill Buckley, a conservative icon, recently died and he was vehemently against the ridiculous spending in the Bush administration. We need more conservatives like him in the country because right now the Republican party has been hijacked. |
Author: | Jim Halpert [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:07 pm ] |
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redfirebird2008 wrote: Jayhawk wrote: redfirebird2008 wrote: Jayhawk wrote: Obama's name has been so abused this election already that yes it already is becoming typical. I hate dirty politics and wish we didnt have to see them but we going to this election and every other election, just kind of have to move on. Yes I am the same Jayhawk, but I've accepted McCain is getting the nomination and am now supporting him. Did you vote for Bush? If so, then you apparently weren't tired of dirty politics back then. His fear-mongering is probably some of the most obvious since the "daisy" mushroom cloud ad back in the day. Karl Rove is a very effective fear-mongerer. ![]() ![]() Yes I voted for Bush. I didnt vote for him because I was swayed with what he aired. I voted for him because John Kerry was so far left, him and I shared very little in common. I'm ultra-right. Me voting for someone who is ultra-left is simply not going to happen. Bush's spending habits are about as far left as can be. Pretty funny how the conservative movement has been hijacked recently by big spending neo-cons. Bill Buckley, a conservative icon, recently died and he was vehemently against the ridiculous spending in the Bush administration. We need more conservatives like him in the country because right now the Republican party has been hijacked. I completely agree. I'm not one of the 30% that approves of Bush. |
Author: | Bradley Witherberry [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:21 pm ] |
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The despicable part of this story is that it is being spread by Obama and his workers. |
Author: | El Maskado [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:22 pm ] |
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Bradley Witherberry wrote: The despicable part of this story is that it is being spread by Obama and his workers. you forgot to add the full name Barrack Hussein Obama. Quite unbradley like |
Author: | jujubee [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:32 pm ] |
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Jayhawk wrote: I completely agree. I'm not one of the 30% that approves of Bush. I believe you mean 19%. |
Author: | Tyler [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:09 pm ] |
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Wow! Dirty politics! What a novel fucking concept! |
Author: | Bradley Witherberry [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:14 pm ] |
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Roid wrote: Bradley Witherberry wrote: The despicable part of this story is that it is being spread by Obama and his workers. you forgot to add the full name Barrack Hussein Obama. Quite unbradley like Perhaps you could quote my one reference to that here on KJ - - I believe you'll find it different than you are implying... I'm all for a Democrat in the Whitehouse, I just don't like the unquestioning nature of the Barackult members. |
Author: | redfirebird2008 [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:07 pm ] |
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Bradley Witherberry wrote: Roid wrote: Bradley Witherberry wrote: The despicable part of this story is that it is being spread by Obama and his workers. you forgot to add the full name Barrack Hussein Obama. Quite unbradley like Perhaps you could quote my one reference to that here on KJ - - I believe you'll find it different than you are implying... I'm all for a Democrat in the Whitehouse, I just don't like the unquestioning nature of the Barackult members. Unquestioning? WTF? Call him out on REAL issues, don't call him Osama bin Laden...Rezko = real issue. NAFTA = real issue. Iraq War votes = real issue. Those are real things that Obama should be hammered on. But his name, his effing name? You've gotta be kidding me. |
Author: | Bradley Witherberry [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:55 am ] |
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redfirebird2008 wrote: Bradley Witherberry wrote: Roid wrote: Bradley Witherberry wrote: The despicable part of this story is that it is being spread by Obama and his workers. you forgot to add the full name Barrack Hussein Obama. Quite unbradley like Perhaps you could quote my one reference to that here on KJ - - I believe you'll find it different than you are implying... I'm all for a Democrat in the Whitehouse, I just don't like the unquestioning nature of the Barackult members. Unquestioning? WTF? Call him out on REAL issues, don't call him Osama bin Laden...Rezko = real issue. NAFTA = real issue. Iraq War votes = real issue. Those are real things that Obama should be hammered on. But his name, his effing name? You've gotta be kidding me. Gosh, you guys really are cult-like in your devotion. Jump to attack any perceived slight on your leader. Of course, you could try reading what I just wrote above before attacking, but that requires independent comprehension rather than blind faith. Anyways, I'll do ya's all a favor and requote myself from this earlier thread for posterity: insomniacdude wrote: Bradley Witherberry wrote: mdana wrote: Is everyone aware his middle name is Hussein? I know that might sound odd, but I was talking to an aquaintance who is voting in Tuesday's Dem. Primary. I was kind of suprised he was a Democrat in the first place and voting. He stated he was undecided, but he was leaning towards Obama. Later, he asked me about his name being Hussein. He was under the impression that it was just a Republican smear. I told him it was really Obama's name. Then he was like, "well maybe I'm back to undecided". I see it often on cable news shows, but maybe it is not that widely known. I just assumed everyone already knew his middle name, but my wife stated many people probably don't. Anyone have any idea how well-known his middle name is? Has anyone come across this before? I have never had this come up in discussions about Obama. Even worse, he changed his first name from Kim Jong-il to Barrack before entering law school, then he changed the "s" to a "b" in his last name right after 9/11, and finally he's completely buried his confirmation name of Ahmadinejad he chose for himself as a teenager. ![]() Don't leave again ![]() |
Author: | redfirebird2008 [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:23 am ] |
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Bradley Witherberry wrote: Gosh, you guys really are cult-like in your devotion. Jump to attack any perceived slight on your leader. Of course, you could try reading what I just wrote above before attacking, but that requires independent comprehension rather than blind faith. Attack? If you consider that an attack, you've got issues. And second of all, how is it blind faith for me to sit there and say that Obama should be attacked on the issues I just mentioned? The dude is by no means perfect and has plenty of skeletons in his closet that he should be attacked on by other politicians. And he IS just a typical politician, no matter what he says. He's not a true agent of change, no matter what he says. He's a member of the two-party system and represents very little change in the grand scheme of things, just like Clinton represents very little change. Nader is a real agent of change, whereas Obama very much plays by the rules in Washington. So where is my blind faith? Oh that's right, you're so busy stereotyping that you can't actually read and comprehend what I'm saying. Why don't you drop the diatribes and add something useful to the discussion? |
Author: | Bradley Witherberry [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:40 am ] |
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redfirebird2008 wrote: Attack? If you consider that an attack, you've got issues. And second of all, how is it blind faith for me to sit there and say that Obama should be attacked on the issues I just mentioned? The dude is by no means perfect and has plenty of skeletons in his closet that he should be attacked on by other politicians. And he IS just a typical politician, no matter what he says. He's not a true agent of change, no matter what he says. He's a member of the two-party system and represents very little change in the grand scheme of things, just like Clinton represents very little change. Nader is a real agent of change, whereas Obama very much plays by the rules in Washington. So where is my blind faith? Oh that's right, you're so busy stereotyping that you can't actually read and comprehend what I'm saying. Why don't you drop the diatribes and add something useful to the discussion? lol |
Author: | Cotton [ Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:47 am ] |
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Dirty tricks during a political campaign? What a novel concept! ![]() |
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