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xiayun
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Re: Florida Primary
Eagle wrote: xiayun wrote: With the current percentage at 51%-32%, Hilary will gain about 40 delegates if all 210 are reinstated.
Either way, I still think Obama is setting himself up nicely to be at least a strong VP candidate. Yes, the SC week made a Clinton/Obama ticket increasingly unlikely, but if Obama has say 1,500 delegates heading into the convention, Clinton has to consider the possibility. Otherwise, Obama will just need to wait 8 years like McCain did, and he will still only be 55.
But this thing is far from over yet. What if Hillary goes against McCain, loses. McCain takes office, and for a majority of his term he is stuck dealing with a recession. Next election comes around ... Obama wins in a Clinton / Bush like battle. Yeah, that's actually more likely.
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Eagle
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Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm Posts: 14631 Location: Pittsburgh
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Re: Florida Primary
I can see how you would feel that way, but I would like Guiliani as AG.
He is well-qualified for the position, rose to the spotlight as a federal prosecutor, was in the Department of Justice under Ronald Reagan. He is about as socially liberal as you can ever hope for with a Republican president, and he's a strong conservative on national security and fiscally. I would be very happy with that choice.
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Beeblebrox
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Re: Florida Primary
Eagle wrote: He is about as socially liberal as you can ever hope for with a Republican president, and he's a strong conservative on national security and fiscally. He's socially liberal, I'll give him that. But he's a thug on security and his fiscal conservatism (not that such a thing even exists anymore) is irrelevant. You think Gonzales had no problem defending the Bush torture, wire-tapping, and detention policies? Giuliani would make him look like a girl scout.
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Anita Hussein Briem
Yes we can call dibs on the mountain guide
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:47 pm Posts: 3290 Location: Houston
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Re: Florida Primary
xiayun wrote: With the current percentage at 51%-32%, Hilary will gain about 40 delegates if all 210 are reinstated.
Either way, I still think Obama is setting himself up nicely to be at least a strong VP candidate. Yes, the SC week made a Clinton/Obama ticket increasingly unlikely, but if Obama has say 1,500 delegates heading into the convention, Clinton has to consider the possibility. Otherwise, Obama will just need to wait 8 years like McCain did, and he will still only be 55.
But this thing is far from over yet. That is certainly possible. There is not as much personal animosity as the media is inclined to believe. We will see depending on Super Tuesday results. No definitive post-Kennedy/SC numbers are out yet, other than Connecticut, in which Obama wiped out Clinton's lead in one of her northeastern firewall states. I eagerly await word from more polls; if Obama can take Massachusetts, his chances on 2/5 are much improved.
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32104 Location: the last free city
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Re: Florida Primary
Talk radio is hating yet another win by McCain.
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Timayd
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Re: Florida Primary
I really hope Obama can take Massachusetts, I mean we have our governor and both our senators behind him.
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Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:02 pm |
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Mr. Reynolds
Confessing on a Dance Floor
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:46 am Posts: 5567 Location: Celebratin' in Chitown
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Re: Florida Primary
Timayd wrote: I really hope Obama can take Massachusetts, I mean we have our governor and both our senators behind him. a 40% lead over Obama is going to be tought to beat with one week to go. Hillary has MA in the bag.
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Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:10 pm |
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Eagle
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Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm Posts: 14631 Location: Pittsburgh
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Re: Florida Primary
CNN now reporting Guiliani will endorse McCain tomorrow, before the debate.
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Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:23 pm |
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Rev
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Re: Florida Primary
Eagle wrote: CNN now reporting Guiliani will endorse McCain tomorrow, before the debate. So he's giving up already..... AWSOME!
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Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:25 pm |
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Jedi Master Carr
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Re: Florida Primary
No Country for Sam wrote: Timayd wrote: I really hope Obama can take Massachusetts, I mean we have our governor and both our senators behind him. a 40% lead over Obama is going to be tought to beat with one week to go. Hillary has MA in the bag. I am not sure about that with both big senators and the whole Kennedy clan behind him. Mass residents are big on the kennedys and will about follow them to hell if they told them to. Being from there I know how they are.
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Anita Hussein Briem
Yes we can call dibs on the mountain guide
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:47 pm Posts: 3290 Location: Houston
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Re: Florida Primary
No Country for Sam wrote: Timayd wrote: I really hope Obama can take Massachusetts, I mean we have our governor and both our senators behind him. a 40% lead over Obama is going to be tought to beat with one week to go. Hillary has MA in the bag. She had a 32-point lead in Connecticut, speaking in the same time frame. We shall see. There's Governor Deval Patrick and the Boston Globe endorsement as well as the Connecticut-premonition factor. Heh, some news outlets are still asking whether McCain is the frontrunner. No shit! He's not only the frontrunner, he has a lock on the nomination, barring sudden medical setbacks.
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Eagle
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Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm Posts: 14631 Location: Pittsburgh
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Re: Florida Primary
CNN is now saying that Charlie Crist will be considered for the VP spot if McCain wins the nomination.
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MikeQ.
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Re: Florida Primary
Oh, how I would really love to see a Clinton/Obama pair with President and Vice-President. I root for Hillary, but I love them both and would be equally happy with either of them as President. I would love to see these two turn the country around from the terrible mess Bush has created in 8 years. And I don't mean about Iraq - in my opinion, the country itself is not in good shape at all, no offence Americans.
I still have trouble fathoming how he managed to get re-elected... and I certainly don't want another Republican in office. Not now.
Peace, Mike
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Mr. Reynolds
Confessing on a Dance Floor
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:46 am Posts: 5567 Location: Celebratin' in Chitown
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Re: Florida Primary
but does the VP really do anything?
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:29 am |
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snack
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Re: Florida Primary
Eagle wrote: CNN is now saying that Charlie Crist will be considered for the VP spot if McCain wins the nomination. That is horrible news. He's a complete joke/jerk.
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:31 am |
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Rod
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Re: Florida Primary
Hillary can do no right in some people's eyes Truth is if Obama had won his campaign team would be using the victory in his favor as well. Anyone who says otherwise is fooling his or herself. The whole it's meaningless argument is complete BS. There was only one candidate who ran ads in the state and that was Obama. Why bother if they really believed the state meant nothing?
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:37 am |
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Anita Hussein Briem
Yes we can call dibs on the mountain guide
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:47 pm Posts: 3290 Location: Houston
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Re: Florida Primary
Good news for Obama momentum: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/2 ... 83957.htmlSurprise, it's actually a good article, and not douchebag-spin.
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nghtvsn
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Re: Florida Primary
Eagle wrote: CNN is now saying that Charlie Crist will be considered for the VP spot if McCain wins the nomination. Well that's a move. I know nothing of Crist other than he'll be delivering FL to the republicans in the general.
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Anita Hussein Briem
Yes we can call dibs on the mountain guide
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Caius
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Re: Florida Primary
One thing is certain, McCain will not be asking Mitt for a VP spot. I'm thinking that Huckabee or some moderate GOP governor in a swing state....like Crist will be asked. McCain-Liberman... might be interesting, if not very Republican.
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:07 am |
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Dkmuto
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Re: Florida Primary
I don't really know why I was so excited to see a Guiliani free fall. I don't hate him, after all.
I also didn't factor in the fact that he'd be throwing support behind McCain, though it does make complete sense.
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Dkmuto
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Re: Florida Primary
KidRock69x wrote: One thing is certain, McCain will not be asking Mitt for a VP spot. I'm thinking that Huckabee or some moderate GOP governor in a swing state....like Crist will be asked. McCain-Liberman... might be interesting, if not very Republican. McCain/Lieberman would be interesting. (Would Lieberman be the first person to ever run on a Republican and Democratic presidential ticket?) But as a sort of moderate himself, McCain probably doesn't need Lieberman. MSNBC just made the point that he needs more of a social conservative to round out the ticket - i.e., Huckabee.
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:13 am |
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Anita Hussein Briem
Yes we can call dibs on the mountain guide
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Re: Florida Primary
Lieberman publicly rejected the notion of running as VP.
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Jim Halpert
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Re: Florida Primary
mccain needs a more conservative vp then lieberman or guiliani
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:28 am |
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Dkmuto
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Re: Florida Primary
Yeah. "Obama actually won more support than Clinton from voters who made up their minds in the last three days (46 percent to 38 percent), in the last week (39-31) and in the last month (47-40)." And while Hillary did win with those who made up their minds on election day, it was only by four points. I hope that story gets more play tomorrow.
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