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Author:  Box [ Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:50 pm ]
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Not whether you like him or not, but whether you think he will become the next president. Yeah?

Author:  Shack [ Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:06 pm ]
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Yep, me

Author:  Groucho [ Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:10 pm ]
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Nope. Not gonna happen.

Author:  mdana [ Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:17 pm ]
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He has to win the Republican nomination, and that is very much in doubt. If he can't win Florida, I don't think he can win the nomination.

No, I don't think he can win.

Author:  A. G. [ Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:28 pm ]
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At this point, McCain seems the favorite to me too. But both Hillary and Obama could evolve and get more skilled as candidates. They have less experience in running for the presidency than McCain does and will probably get better.

Author:  Corpse [ Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:02 pm ]
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No, Richardson or Kuucinich, Biden, Dodd, any of the drop outs could beat any of the REP candidates, in my opinion. So Clinton, Obama, or Edwards wouldnt lose. The DEM turnout and excitement this election year is just too massive. The turnout is suppose to be higher in SC than the REP turnout, and that is REALLY saying something. Not to mention record turnout in every state so far, and Im willing to bet each and every state will have record turnout on the DEM side. So the percentage/turnout in NOV isnt going to be balanced at all.

Author:  Libs [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:46 am ]
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McCain genuinely frightens me, because I think he is by far the most electable of the Republican candidates.

I still kind of don't think he'll get the nomination, though.

Author:  Anita Hussein Briem [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:05 am ]
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Definitely. He wouldn't find it hard to collect anti-Hillary voters in case she wins the Democratic nomination. Many independents, and certainly undecided Republicans, would line up behind him.

Author:  Diesel [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:13 am ]
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McCain will definitely be the Republican vying for the White House come November. He will just certainly lose to a Democrat.

Author:  Cotton [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:39 am ]
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Yep.

Assuming Hillary will win the Dem nomination (99% certainty), many swing Democrats and Independents will slice off their nose to spite the face that is America.

Very sad but true.

Author:  Anita Hussein Briem [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:44 am ]
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If a vote for McCain is slicing off my nose, a vote for Clinton would be slicing off my penis.

Author:  Beeblebrox [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:47 am ]
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Archie Gates wrote:
At this point, McCain seems the favorite to me too.


I wonder if people realize that Romney has way more delegates than any other Republican, 73 to McCain's 38. It's early still, but I wouldn't count Romney out just yet.

Author:  Anita Hussein Briem [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:48 pm ]
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Beeblebrox wrote:
Archie Gates wrote:
At this point, McCain seems the favorite to me too.


I wonder if people realize that Romney has way more delegates than any other Republican, 73 to McCain's 38. It's early still, but I wouldn't count Romney out just yet.

He leads by 6 points in one Florida poll. McCain's formidable lead over him in NY and NJ, two winner-take-all states, still matter a lot though.

Author:  Jmart [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:03 pm ]
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Right now I'd say it's kind of a longshot because of his stance on the war, but if he can pick up some momentum against Romney, I think he'd have a good shot against either Obama or Clinton. And if Huckabee ends up out of the hunt, and he can pick up the Evangelicals, then he's almost a shoe-in.

Personally, I wouldn't mind so much if he got in (especially over Clinton and Romney) because even though I'm a moderate leaning towards liberal, and even though he's for the war, he's the only one who I feel isn't bullshitting me with everything he says. He probably is, but it doesn't come across that way.

Author:  Anita Hussein Briem [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:26 pm ]
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This is what kind of man McCain is:

"I promised to tell the truth always about my intentions and beliefs. I fell short of that standard in South Carolina," McCain said. "While my response was factually accurate, it did not answer how I personally felt about the flag."

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITIC ... mccain.sc/

Author:  nghtvsn [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:49 pm ]
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If he wins the nom then it's very likely he'll win.

Author:  A. G. [ Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:18 pm ]
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Ted Kennedy is endorsing Obama, and going to campaign with him. Somewhere McCain is smiling, if Obama becomes the nominee this is good news for him. He'll probably use clips of them in ads.

Author:  Shack [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:21 pm ]
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President McCain, you know it.

Author:  mdana [ Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:20 am ]
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I take it back. At the moment it looks like John McCain. Romney seems to be running out of gas and I think McCain will probably beat Clinton or Obama. I wish it wasn't true.

Author:  Beeblebrox [ Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:07 am ]
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McCain is the front runner for now. And if he gets the nom and with whoever is the nominee on the Dem side, one thing is for certain and that is that the neocons, freepers, ditto-heads, redstaters, and the 28%ers do not have a candidate in this fight. And that's a GREAT thing. They hate McCain. They hate him for working with Dems. They hate him for opposing torture. They hate him for being soft on illegal immigrants. For them to be marginalized is nothing but a net good for the country.

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I think McCain will probably beat Clinton or Obama.


The only person in the race the freepers and dittoheads hate more than McCain is Hillary. So in a McCain-Hillary match-up, I'd expect them to get out the vote for the Republican candidate no matter how much they dislike him. In a McCain-Obama race, I'd expect them to stay home in disgust.

So I think McCain has a harder time against Obama. Not to say Obama could beat him (although I think he could), but it would be a lot closer. But either scenario is entirely speculative on my part.

Author:  A. G. [ Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:48 am ]
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Shack wrote:
President McCain, you know it.

It could happen but consider that in the television era, the better looking candidate has won every time, with the Gore-Bush 2000 case being treated as basically a tie. McCain has some things going for him but he sometimes looks like a gila monster, as Chris Matthews put it today.

Author:  Caius [ Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:54 am ]
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Archie Gates wrote:
Shack wrote:
President McCain, you know it.

It could happen but consider that in the television era, the better looking candidate has won every time, with the Gore-Bush 2000 case being treated as basically a tie. McCain has some things going for him but he sometimes looks like a gila monster, as Chris Matthews put it today.

I dunno. I think Gerald Ford was arguably better looking then Jimmy Carter and Goldwater was a smidge better looking then Johnson.

Author:  Chris [ Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:13 pm ]
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Beeblebrox wrote:
McCain is the front runner for now. And if he gets the nom and with whoever is the nominee on the Dem side, one thing is for certain and that is that the neocons, freepers, ditto-heads, redstaters, and the 28%ers do not have a candidate in this fight. And that's a GREAT thing. They hate McCain. They hate him for working with Dems. They hate him for opposing torture. They hate him for being soft on illegal immigrants. For them to be marginalized is nothing but a net good for the country.

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I think McCain will probably beat Clinton or Obama.


The only person in the race the freepers and dittoheads hate more than McCain is Hillary. So in a McCain-Hillary match-up, I'd expect them to get out the vote for the Republican candidate no matter how much they dislike him. In a McCain-Obama race, I'd expect them to stay home in disgust.

So I think McCain has a harder time against Obama. Not to say Obama could beat him (although I think he could), but it would be a lot closer. But either scenario is entirely speculative on my part.


I really think that both Hillary and Obama can beat McCain, especially if someone like Paul (likely) or Bloomberg runs as an independent. That would absolutely crush the republicans chances.

Author:  Jim Halpert [ Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:19 pm ]
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i know everyone demo should be happy to hear that Ralph Nadar has formed a exploritory committee for president.

Author:  Dkmuto [ Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:35 pm ]
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Chris wrote:
Beeblebrox wrote:
McCain is the front runner for now. And if he gets the nom and with whoever is the nominee on the Dem side, one thing is for certain and that is that the neocons, freepers, ditto-heads, redstaters, and the 28%ers do not have a candidate in this fight. And that's a GREAT thing. They hate McCain. They hate him for working with Dems. They hate him for opposing torture. They hate him for being soft on illegal immigrants. For them to be marginalized is nothing but a net good for the country.

Quote:
I think McCain will probably beat Clinton or Obama.


The only person in the race the freepers and dittoheads hate more than McCain is Hillary. So in a McCain-Hillary match-up, I'd expect them to get out the vote for the Republican candidate no matter how much they dislike him. In a McCain-Obama race, I'd expect them to stay home in disgust.

So I think McCain has a harder time against Obama. Not to say Obama could beat him (although I think he could), but it would be a lot closer. But either scenario is entirely speculative on my part.


I really think that both Hillary and Obama can beat McCain, especially if someone like Paul (likely) or Bloomberg runs as an independent. That would absolutely crush the republicans chances.


Paul running might take a small chunk out of McCain's support. Conventional wisdom seems to be, though, that a Clinton/Obama ticket, or the other way around, would likely discourage Bloomberg from mounting a run.

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