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Barrabás
llegó a la casa vía marítima
Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:53 pm Posts: 6327 Location: la gran casa de la esquina
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 Re: 2024 election - First presidential debate
This is going to make an amazing HBO miniseries or an Oscar winning political thriller in 20 years.
Right now, it's terrifying to live through. The US could be in a civil war depending on how the next six months go.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15565 Location: Everywhere
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I wouldn’t be surprised if Oliver Stone isn’t already thinking about a script.
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68355
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Anything short of Trump dying will embolden him and improve his chances of winning, sadly.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11615 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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Shack wrote: Wow genuinely close to getting his head blown off like JFK. Secret service looks terrible.
Hopefully this lowers the temperature overall. Early signs points to no as the active members of the GOP are starting to ramp up rhetoric and make this political. Apparently the gunman was a Republican though.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15565 Location: Everywhere
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Algren wrote: Anything short of Trump dying will embolden him and improve his chances of winning, sadly. No, he can be emboldened and lose anyway. It’s not like he conceded in 2020.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15565 Location: Everywhere
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Shack wrote: Wow genuinely close to getting his head blown off like JFK. Secret service looks terrible.
Hopefully this lowers the temperature overall. It will get cooler…again by November.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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One Quick Look at the Fox News discussion sections and you can see temperatures are doing the opposite of cooling down calling this an FBI hit job and that they cannot be trusted. With how the active GOP are calling for a hearing on the Secret Service they are raising the temp right now. It is really up to Trump himself to cool things down and his first response was promising (I mean his volcano level rhetoric is what got us all here in the first place) so I remain hopeful
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Trump’s response this morning is the right move. If he continues to lower temperatures he will win probably as it would shatter his most negative attribute. We will see how the GOP convention goes this week.
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22202 Location: Places
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1 month from now, the ads of Trump's "response" tp Paul Pelosi's near murder are going to be everywhere. I think he gets a really around the flag bit of momentum but things will normalize soon.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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It’s all about the low information swing voter right now who doesn’t even know someone tried to kill Paul Pelosi but does know about this who are going to now decide the election. The real problem with this event is that there are valid high stakes criticisms that should be lobbied at Trump, but now the Dems have to ease up on their offensive assaults on the GOP’s Project 2025 platform that are showing to persuade voters. This was a gift for Trump if he uses it wisely. Problem is the GOP mouthpieces and active politicians are already staring to ratchet up the rhetoric in a problematic way that will turn off these same voters.
If Trump wants to win he would come out during the Convention, ask for everyone to cool the rhetoric, have a moment of self-reflection. Thank Biden, but condemn him for being too old and say we need to rally around as a nation during this moment.
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21571 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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Someone being attacked with a hammer is not the same as being shot. Also, not the same to attack the husband of the speaker of the house who almost no one had heard of before, as it is to attack the current Republican nominee and former president
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15565 Location: Everywhere
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Yeah it probably won’t happen
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40549
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Biden winning Michigan and Wisconsin, Pennsylvania going Trumpstrong after this, and Biden winning Arizona, is still 270 for Trump. Biden would need to win Georgia to have a chance.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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If Biden gets the blue wall he wins
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Oh man, with how the GOP active politicians are trying to score political points on this event and honestly how some on the Left are cracking jokes. This thing is going to only get uglier I worry especially as Trump is not one to cool tensions effectively as he has a career on building a divide not brig a nation together
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40549
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So crazy. How much history will change because of this close call, possibly will end up more meaningful than Reagan's since I think George HW does most of the stuff he does anyway. Even if Trump loses, you could claim that his death would've led to president DeSantis or something.
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68355
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Isn't Georgia already in the bag for Trump?
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40549
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Algren wrote: Isn't Georgia already in the bag for Trump? Biden and both senators won it in 20, he is currently trailing in polls but no more than in other states like Pennsylvania, Nevada or Arizona, and anything that's just 4 or 5 points is not over yet I think, seen by how Hillary lost because of states she had leads like that. They have had a lot of California lefties move there due to how it's now Hollywood 2.0 as they get some sort of tax break there, all the Marvel movies are made there etc. Plus Atlanta seems like it's at the center of black pop culture which could make it hip to move to for leftists, and is so big that it can single handily cancel out the racist whites.
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22202 Location: Places
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Good, but brief, oval office address from JB tonight.
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22202 Location: Places
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Darth Indiana Bond wrote: If Biden gets the blue wall he wins PA and MI have to be strong leans towards JB. Wisconsin is definitely the closest of the 3 blue wall states.
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21571 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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Excel wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: If Biden gets the blue wall he wins PA and MI have to be strong leans towards JB. Wisconsin is definitely the closest of the 3 blue wall states. Pennsylvania is polling stronger for Trump this go round than either of those.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11615 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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It also strongly backed Shapiro who is very popular there. So really feeling weird about polls the last eight years.
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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Shack wrote: Wow genuinely close to getting his head blown off like JFK. Secret service looks terrible.
Hopefully this lowers the temperature overall. Indeed, glad that fucker missed and got deleted. R.I.P. to Corey Comperatore, a hero protecting his family. Really hoping for the same.
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