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Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:43 am Posts: 1241 Location: the south
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Hasn't WVa usually gotten it correct??
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Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:48 pm |
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xiayun
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA
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No worry. The new SurveyUSA poll has Obama up by 16 (55-39) and by 27 (61-34) among those who have voted.
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Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:07 pm |
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Mannyisthebest
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Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 3:53 pm Posts: 8642 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Even though Obama would still win, polls show Indiana is now out of reach. There is no doubt a McCain comeback. However he wins everything else he wants so who cares?? I expect a tight popular vote race 47-53 or so but a very easy electoral college win. Lets hope this does not happen...However It would be funny to see...  If McCain wins, my GOD, biggest upset ever. I expect riots...
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Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:02 pm |
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Beeblebrox
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Mannyisthebest wrote: Even though Obama would still win, polls show Indiana is now out of reach. The IN polls I've seen have Obama +1 or McCain +2, both well within the margin of error. McCain might still win the state but that's hardly out of reach.
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Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:19 pm |
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Mannyisthebest
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Well "out of reach is extreme", however McCain is making a slight comeback so States that were tied will go back to McCain like Missouri and Indiana.
However Obama has Virgina/Ohio/New Mexico locked up and that means he wins!!!
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Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:21 pm |
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getluv
i break the rules, so i don't care
Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 4:28 pm Posts: 20411
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and Florida. well calculated infomercial
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Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:45 pm |
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BK
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The polls are incredibly misleading today. Pennsylvania is down to a 4% lead. McCain only leads Louisiana by 3%. Even South Carolina's poll doesn't feel right. Something seems really quite off, many states Obama's leading in have had 2-3 percentage points knocked off.
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Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:15 am |
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Floydboy
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Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:05 pm Posts: 2210
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10/31 TOWARD MCCAIN: MT: Exactly tied to Barely GOP IN: Barely DEM to Barely GOP  So given the flip-flopping of MT and IN, they're basically tied and will come down to the wire. I'm interested to see how much Ron Paul affects the outcome in MT. Quote: The polls are incredibly misleading today. Pennsylvania is down to a 4% lead. McCain only leads Louisiana by 3%. Even South Carolina's poll doesn't feel right. Something seems really quite off, many states Obama's leading in have had 2-3 percentage points knocked off. Hmm... as far as I know Obama still has a ~11% lead in PA and McCain leads by ~10% in LA and SC.
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Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:19 am |
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BK
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Look at the polls below. The Mason Dixon one. Just scroll down. RCP also updated to Leaning Obama from Solid.
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Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:23 am |
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Floydboy
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Hmm, that's interesting all right. Maybe McCain has made a little headway in PA? Either that or it's an outlier. And that LA one is downright insane. Obama only trailing by 3%? Hmm, this isn't an exact science as it has been said, but it should be interesting to watch over the next few days.
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Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:27 am |
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resident
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Makes me wonder whether the pollsters are loading the questions. If McCain is gaining in Pa, then I wonder what the robocalls are putting out.
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Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:25 am |
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Jedi Master Carr
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I think that PA poll is an outliner. The other 7 polls all average out giving in a 9-10 point lead.
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Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:59 am |
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Floydboy
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11/1 TOWARD MCCAINMO: Barely Dem to Barely GOP MS: Weak GOP to Strong GOP ND: Exactly Tied to Barely GOP TOWARD OBAMA: AZ: Weak GOP to Barely GOP  Hmm, a tad bit interesting. This is more the map that I saw happening at the end of the election, with the exception of North Carolina and Florida. I still think McCain will end up winning North Carolina, but with the huge amount of campaigning and time that Obama has recently put into Florida I'm starting to think that he may have a shot there. Everyone has been campaigning there for him, including the Clinton's and Gore's.
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Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:22 am |
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Floydboy
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Quote: We have 30 presidential polls today. Arizona is surprisingly close and Obama is running some ads there, but McCain should still win his home state in the end. Yet another poll (from ARG) shows Obama ahead in Colorado, 52% to 45%. With the Kerry states in the bag along with Iowa and New Mexico, a win in Colorado means that nothing else matters. Georgia is getting closer, but McCain will probably hold this one.. Missouri is a real tossup. If it doesn't go for McCain and Obama wins, it loses its hallowed bellwether status. North Carolina is still too close to call. McCain made a real effort to win Pennsylvania, but it is not paying off. Obama's solid lead there is stable. Woohoo! Yay Colorado!
State | Obama | McCain | Start | End | Pollster |
Arizona | 46% | 50% | 28-Oct | 30-Oct | ARG |
Arizona | 47% | 48% | 28-Oct | 30-Oct | Research 2000 |
Colorado | 52% | 45% | 28-Oct | 30-Oct | ARG |
Georgia | 44% | 47% | 28-Oct | 30-Oct | Research 2000 |
Georgia | 47% | 52% | 30-Oct | 30-Oct | Rasmussen |
Missouri | 48% | 48% | 28-Oct | 30-Oct | ARG |
North Carolina | 45% | 38% | 27-Oct | 30-Oct | Elon U. |
North Carolina | 47% | 45% | 28-Oct | 30-Oct | Research 2000 |
North Carolina | 48% | 48% | 29-Oct | 29-Oct | Insider Advantage |
Pennsylvania | 55% | 43% | 23-Oct | 28-Oct | Opinion Research |
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Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:45 am |
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BK
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Still too close to call but like everywhere says if Virginia goes blue, it's probably all over. Still though, it may be the start of a landslide. And that would be fun.
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Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:29 am |
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Jedi Master Carr
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Same with Ohio that one McCain can't lose.
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Groucho
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BK wrote: Still too close to call but like everywhere says if Virginia goes blue, it's probably all over. Still though, it may be the start of a landslide. And that would be fun. I don't think it's too close to call, really. Everyone is being too cautious. If you just count the states where he is 10 points ahead, he's got enough to win. Look at the map above. Let's assume he only wins the dark blue states. That includes all the states Kerry won plus New Mexico and Iowa. Bing! That's all he needs, he's in. He could lose every other state and still win. He's not going to lose 10+ points in all those states in three days. The only issue will be how big the win will be.
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MikeQ.
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Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
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Groucho wrote: BK wrote: Still too close to call but like everywhere says if Virginia goes blue, it's probably all over. Still though, it may be the start of a landslide. And that would be fun. I don't think it's too close to call, really. Everyone is being too cautious. If you just count the states where he is 10 points ahead, he's got enough to win. Look at the map above. Let's assume he only wins the dark blue states. That includes all the states Kerry won plus New Mexico and Iowa. Bing! That's all he needs, he's in. He could lose every other state and still win. He's not going to lose 10+ points in all those states in three days. The only issue will be how big the win will be. Obama "only" has 264 EV's from the dark blue states (Kerry states + NM & Iowa = 264), so he does have to get something outside of the states in which he leads 10+ points. Peace, Mike
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Floydboy
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Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:05 pm Posts: 2210
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MikeQ. wrote: Groucho wrote: BK wrote: Still too close to call but like everywhere says if Virginia goes blue, it's probably all over. Still though, it may be the start of a landslide. And that would be fun. I don't think it's too close to call, really. Everyone is being too cautious. If you just count the states where he is 10 points ahead, he's got enough to win. Look at the map above. Let's assume he only wins the dark blue states. That includes all the states Kerry won plus New Mexico and Iowa. Bing! That's all he needs, he's in. He could lose every other state and still win. He's not going to lose 10+ points in all those states in three days. The only issue will be how big the win will be. Obama "only" has 264 EV's from the dark blue states (Kerry states + NM & Iowa = 264), so he does have to get something outside of the states in which he leads 10+ points. Peace, Mike Assuming he gets one of VA, CO or OH, he'll win (or at least tie with NV ... scary). I am almost positive that my home state (CO) will vote for Obama just from what my friends and family is saying. And from all the news I hear from VA I think he will win that state as well. Still not convinced of Ohio. But anyway, unless there have been a lot of people refusing to say that they would vote for Obama just to lie to the polls, it looks like a win for Obama. We'll see shortly.
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MikeQ.
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Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
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Floydboy wrote: MikeQ. wrote: Groucho wrote: BK wrote: Still too close to call but like everywhere says if Virginia goes blue, it's probably all over. Still though, it may be the start of a landslide. And that would be fun. I don't think it's too close to call, really. Everyone is being too cautious. If you just count the states where he is 10 points ahead, he's got enough to win. Look at the map above. Let's assume he only wins the dark blue states. That includes all the states Kerry won plus New Mexico and Iowa. Bing! That's all he needs, he's in. He could lose every other state and still win. He's not going to lose 10+ points in all those states in three days. The only issue will be how big the win will be. Obama "only" has 264 EV's from the dark blue states (Kerry states + NM & Iowa = 264), so he does have to get something outside of the states in which he leads 10+ points. Peace, Mike Assuming he gets one of VA, CO or OH, he'll win (or at least tie with NV ... scary). I am almost positive that my home state (CO) will vote for Obama just from what my friends and family is saying. And from all the news I hear from VA I think he will win that state as well. Still not convinced of Ohio. But anyway, unless there have been a lot of people refusing to say that they would vote for Obama just to lie to the polls, it looks like a win for Obama. We'll see shortly. I agree. Let me clarify, I think this is completely a win for Obama, and that it is just a question of how much of a landslide it will be. I just wanted to point out to Groucho that his math was a little off. Peace, Mike
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Groucho
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MikeQ. wrote: Groucho wrote: BK wrote: Still too close to call but like everywhere says if Virginia goes blue, it's probably all over. Still though, it may be the start of a landslide. And that would be fun. I don't think it's too close to call, really. Everyone is being too cautious. If you just count the states where he is 10 points ahead, he's got enough to win. Look at the map above. Let's assume he only wins the dark blue states. That includes all the states Kerry won plus New Mexico and Iowa. Bing! That's all he needs, he's in. He could lose every other state and still win. He's not going to lose 10+ points in all those states in three days. The only issue will be how big the win will be. Obama "only" has 264 EV's from the dark blue states (Kerry states + NM & Iowa = 264), so he does have to get something outside of the states in which he leads 10+ points. Peace, Mike Doh! You're right. I think I was counting Virginia in there in the back of my mind as well.
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Floydboy
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11/2 TOWARD OBAMAAR: Strong GOP to Weak GOP TOWARD MCCAINPA: Strong Dem to Weak Dem NM: Strong Dem to Weak Dem  Gains for both candidates in states that most likely they won't win in the end.
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BK
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Yikes. McCain's really making in-roads in PA. He still has a striking chance, the election is only on Tuesday and PA has no early voting. Also your map's off. Don't know how it could be but it's saying Ohio's barely GOP, New York weak Dem, Texas weak GOP, South Dakota barely GOP, Virginia barely GOP, Florida equal, PA strong Dem, Arkansas strong GOP etc etc
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getluv
i break the rules, so i don't care
Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 4:28 pm Posts: 20411
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don't you mean NY instead of PA.
and eww at all teh white.
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getluv
i break the rules, so i don't care
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wait mine is different: Floyd was using Nov 1's map. NOVEMBER 2 TOWARDS OBAMA
WA - barely DEM to strong DEM NY - weak DEM to strong DEM NV - barely DEM to weak DEM FL - tied to barely DEM OH - barely GOP to weak DEM VA - barely GOP to weak DEM AR - strong GOP to weak GOP TOWARDS MCCAINPA - strong DEM to weak DEM IN - tied to barely GOP SD - barely GOP to weak GOP TX - weak GOP to strong GOP 
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