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I can only repeat that everything you could ever possibly think you know will only ever seem pathetically immature to me or an adult of my species. It’s not worth your effort. If you think you have a basis to criticize or challenge, you don’t. I guarantee you. I’m not interested, I don’t need you, and you don’t help whatsoever. You will only ever burden by trying to require me to essentially babysit you regardless of anything you could ever hope to know or do until death, and regardless of the fact that I’m your enemy. I’m your enemy, yet you will try to take advantage of and abuse my pity. If I took you seriously, you don’t want to know how badly I would hurt you. And that’s only with words. Just stop. When I say something seriously, you just don’t disagree, the end.


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I may elaborate later, but as to Howard: No straight lines? Either he can’t understand infinity because he can’t count that high and assumes it must return in a circle or some curve, he doesn’t understand gravity (I was going to say this even before I rewatched the video) - his comments about gravity and straight lines are incoherent, or he just doesn’t understand math or logic, which is obvious. His prior claims regarding math seem to claim that math is invalid because it is supposedly involved in circular thinking. But circular thinking isn’t even a formal error in logic, it’s considered an “informal error”, which actually means that it’s not exactly an error at all because they don’t understand what they are talking about. You should trust me, Terrance Howard is wrong and math is right. Contemporary western philosophy and academic logic is flawed and underdeveloped, but it’s still better thought out than the things Terrance Howard tends to say.

Anyway, he wasn’t even in “Infinity War” ironically. lol. Time travel may be even less realistic than his rants, but more entertaining. He was cut after the first Iron Man I believe.


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Yeah, he was replaced in Iron Man 2.


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FYI, as to gender and species, a female lion will simply snap the neck of male hyena if need be. That’s not even for hunting. So I’m not interested in your feelings Shack.


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DP07 wrote:
I may elaborate later, but as to Howard: No straight lines? Either he can’t understand infinity because he can’t count that high and assumes it must return in a circle or some curve, he doesn’t understand gravity (I was going to say this even before I rewatched the video) - his comments about gravity and straight lines are incoherent, or he just doesn’t understand math or logic, which is obvious. His prior claims regarding math seem to claim that math is invalid because it is supposedly involved no circular thinking. But circular thinking isn’t even a formal error in logic, it’s considered an “informal error”, which actually means that it’s not exactly an error at all because they don’t understand what they are talking about. You should trust me, Terrance Howard is wrong and math is right. Contemporary western philosophy and academic logic is flawed and underdeveloped, but it’s still better thought out than the things Terrance Howard tends to say.

Anyway, he wasn’t even in “Infinity War” ironically. lol. Time travel may be even less realistic than his rants, but more entertaining. He was cut after the first Iron Man I believe.


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So I hope that ends the ambiguity in this forum between politics and other topics. I still want to post about gender and emotion/reason etc. Also about the history and future of nuclear weapons in the Oppenheimer thread.


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DP I think you chose this forum because you’re interested in the current political environment and if you choose to or get it together have an opportunity to post in a now rare environment in 2024 in that both lib and conservative opinions are allowed.


I didn’t want to post in this forum btw, but I was compelled to because of topics like Oppenheimer, and your persistent replies among other things. Anyway, like I said, that’s done. My last replies here will just address those couple remaining topics.


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Barrabás wrote:
I can't be the only one who is disturbed by these non-stop gibberish posts in every other thread

Too bad you can't perform a wellness check via anonymous message board

Please get help DP07


FYI, you tried to reply to me in the will smith thread with your presumptive attitude that my posts could be addressed by regarding gender and maturity alone. That is not enough; it is necessary to understand the relevance of species divergence and change to appropriately address these issues as I had already said. Anyway, since you replied and wanted to be treated like an adult, you have no basis or right to complain about being disturbed. You were warned, and tried to deny the warnings. You were obviously unprepared even if my posts are highly edited, filtered, articulated, and contextualized to make them less emotionally difficult to cope with.


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I may elaborate later, but as to Howard: No straight lines? Either he can’t understand infinity because he can’t count that high and assumes it must return in a circle or some curve, he doesn’t understand gravity (I was going to say this even before I rewatched the video) - his comments about gravity and straight lines are incoherent, or he just doesn’t understand math or logic, which is obvious. His prior claims regarding math seem to claim that math is invalid because it is supposedly involved no circular thinking. But circular thinking isn’t even a formal error in logic, it’s considered an “informal error”, which actually means that it’s not exactly an error at all because they don’t understand what they are talking about. You should trust me, Terrance Howard is wrong and math is right. Contemporary western philosophy and academic logic is flawed and underdeveloped, but it’s still better thought out than the things Terrance Howard tends to say.

Anyway, he wasn’t even in “Infinity War” ironically. lol. Time travel may be even less realistic than his rants, but more entertaining. He was cut after the first Iron Man I believe.


I don’t need to explain more, and won’t since you don’t deserve it.


I’ll just say this about circular thinking in logic, reasoning, (or mathematics as according to Terrence Howard). There is no value (shall we say) in circular thinking if it is a tautology. It may be true in a banal, trite and strictly factual sense, but such so -called “logic” does not provide or contain any novel or new information. Nor does it provide context to recognize information. It is definitively uninformative. It does not advance understanding in any way or make a difference in any potential, imagined, or hypothetical cases or examples. If they are true, you can suppose that they are not true because of the tautology (alone), or you cannot know them to be true because of the tautology. You would need more information prior or after.

If circular thinking is not a tautology, there’s no rational basis to say it’s necessarily an error for simply being circular alone. It could be an error, and it may not be supported, rational, well thought out, or reasoned. It may be contradictory or problematic in some other way, but saying it’s circular alone, doesn’t necessarily invalidate such, or all such, logic or reasoning. The logic or reasoning itself is relevant, and must, or should be addressed for the sake or goal of rational and realistic evaluation or validation. If circular thinking is falsifiable (based on, or in context of, the information known by an observer, thinker, analyst, or any other sort of rational judge, or as part of any other form of rational evaluation) given the premises, arguments, and information used to try to produce, formulate, calculate, determine, or deduce a logical conclusion, than it at least meets the philosophical standards of contemporary (2024, or the forward or future legacy of or from 2024 in subsequent time alone) science, and by legacy, of contemporary western, or academic, philosophy of science. The opportunity for contradiction, or perceived opportunity, based on preexisting knowledge, is enough to create value in informational terms. It is, at the very least, possibly informative if the logic of the argument can be validated somehow, or in some way, by any truly credible methodology.

So, (so-called) “circular thinking” can be validated and can be informative. Otherwise, all of math and science could be accused of being circular, and all that might remain (unquestioned in classical human perception) could be sophism.


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I actually got my hopes up that the US somehow sanctioned Venezuela into having a real election, but then Maduro magically got his 51% despite exit polls showing him getting blown out.

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The share of exports of arms from Russia between 2010-14 was 27%. They supplied almost a third of all arms worldwide in that time.

For 2019-2023 it was 11%.

The invasion of Ukraine has been a bad advertisement for Russian-made arms. Countries don't want that shit anymore.

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I read that the civilian to combatant death ratio in Palestine is 1:1 which is below most wars, it was 3:1 when US invaded Afghanistan and 4:1 in Iraq, and they seem to have killed about 0.2% of Palestine population in nearly a year. That's despite how Hamas is hiding in areas with civilians and seems like they're baiting Israel to kill them, the whole goal is to hurt Israel's world standing. It's so clearly not a genocide. These people are calling it genocide because it's a bad sounding emotionally propagandistic word.

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Post Re: International politics (China, Russia, UK, etc.)
Numbers, facts, and reality don't really seem to have any influence on the hordes of idiots foaming at the mouth about the poor Palestinians in Gaza. I've made a point to read/listen to their arguments/perspectives as much as possible, but these people are either idiots down to the bone or willfully living in some alternate universe where words mean whatever they want and Israel is responsible for every past, present, and future problem in the middle east (or the entire world--seriously--according to many of these nutcases).

Israel isn't some perfect utopia of alien geniuses from the future, obviously (the same being true of every society on Earth so far), so there's plenty to criticize, but they're at least a society of reasonable people who are open to discussion and have not gone feral. The fact that the pro-Hamas crowd is by-and-large incapable of saying *anything* critical about Gaza or Palestine gives off very culty vibes to me. Many of them just refuse to engage with ideas they disagree with at all, which sure adds to the cultiness!

I've just seen and read enough over the last 20 years to feel comfortable saying that the rot in Gaza is strong, but who cares what I think--there are plenty of Palestinians who fled that hellhole and have said the same thing for themselves. It's a culture built on hating Jews (and/or all non-Muslims, really) to the point of murderous rage, only they've managed to convince most of the population (as well as large swaths of American youth...) that murderous rage is actually a good thing.


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https://deadline.com/2024/09/mark-ruffa ... 236086612/

And this kind of nonsense from these idiots is disgusting. Everything about how they portray the Israel/Palestine conflict is so skewed, dishonest, and insidious. Israel is not committing genocide, first of all. That is just a complete and utter lie, among their many other distortions of the truth. Just lumping in some grand total of 40,000 dead Palestinians without specifying that tens of thousands of those are Hamas fighters killed in action is also quite dishonest, but I don't imagine they care.

I also find it quite notable that the only mention of the hostages Hamas *still has* after nearly a year is when they also make some ridiculous claim that Israel took Palestinian hostages:

"We, the undersigned members of SAG-AFTRA, IATSE, WGA, Teamsters, DGA, AEA, AFM, Hollywood Basic Crafts, CSA, PGA, and more, demand our leadership issue a public statement calling for a permanent ceasefire, release of all hostages — both Palestinian and Israeli..."

Israel has prisoners of war, sure, from when thousands of savages invaded their country to murder, rape, and abduct people, but to call them "hostages" is another very purposeful choice. And finally, they sure do ignore the fact that Hamas has rejected every single attempt at a ceasefire so far and put the onus on solving this problem on both Israel and America--as if Hamas is just waiting by peacefully and doesn't want any more trouble.

Celebrities should really just listen to Ricky Gervais and shut the fuck up about real life because all they know about is playing pretend for obscene amounts of money and shilling whatever bullshit product to sheep so they can get themselves yet another house.


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All celebrities ever do is lick their finger, stick it in the air, and see which way the wind is blowing. They don't have an original thought between them. They want to be loved. They're worse than politicians when it comes to real issues.

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The pager thing was clever, but Israel is going a bit nuts aint they? Guess they are taking over America's role in the middle eastern conflicts.


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The pager thing was clever, but Israel is going a bit nuts aint they? Guess they are taking over America's role in the middle eastern conflicts.

State sanctioned terrorism and complete disregard of international laws is fine as long as they’re on our side, and Israel and its actions are fundamentally good because anti-semitism is bad. :disgust:

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Steve wrote:
Flava'd vs The World wrote:
The pager thing was clever, but Israel is going a bit nuts aint they? Guess they are taking over America's role in the middle eastern conflicts.

State sanctioned terrorism and complete disregard of international laws is fine as long as they’re on our side, and Israel and its actions are fundamentally good because anti-semitism is bad. :disgust:


Terrorism is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims, FYI. I'm not sure how targeting devices held by members of a terrorist organization (in this case, Hezbollah) that has been launching rockets into Israel for nearly a year is "terrorism," but I know it's very popular now for people to simply redefine words to fit their feelings ;) And as for Israel "going a bit nuts"--they're surrounded by barbarians who are constantly trying to kill them just because they exist, so extreme measures are necessary if they want to keep living.

What would you consider a just outcome to this current Israel vs Hamas predicament? And what are your thoughts about October 7th and the ~100 hostages Hamas still has hidden away (dead or otherwise)?


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The thing that does not get talked about enough is how Hamas leaders hide in hospitals and places with high level of civilians and even children so they can use these people as human shields to turn public opinion in their favor and push more to their evil cause.

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This is a solid site to track Russia and Israel wars https://t.me/s/rybar Yes while it is written by Russians, I'd rather trust dry posts like that to the obviously manipulative activist journalists.

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I would like them to end the war instead of expanding it. I had the same objection twenty years ago when the US entered Iraq.

Its too late now, but they should have just taken Gaza and given their citizens the same benefits as their own. Show them that their lives will improve, even if many of them will hate you for it. What are they gonna do, rebel harder? To me thiis seemed like the logical move in the wake of the October 6th attack. They had the world's sympathy. Yet expanding the war to Lebanon instead sure makes it seem like the government favors an everlasting war over a quick resolution. And I'm sure Hamas is getting record recruitment, so they're all for an everlasting war too. Fuck em all. The Israeli people need to find a way to get new leaders who will do whats best both for their nation and the ones around them.


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Malcolm wrote:
Terrorism is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims, FYI. I'm not sure how targeting devices held by members of a terrorist organization (in this case, Hezbollah) that has been launching rockets into Israel for nearly a year is "terrorism," but I know it's very popular now for people to simply redefine words to fit their feelings ;)


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Hamas regularly refuses all attempts at compromise and Hezbollah has been attacking Israel with rockets for nearly a year, so what is Israel supposed to do to "end the war instead of expanding it"?

And I'm not sure what Earth you're living on, but Israel absolutely did not have "the world's sympathy" after October 7th. There were immediately celebrations and joyous displays from millions of people all over the globe, including countless idiots right here in America. In addition to the outright glee on display, there was also a hearty dose of the "Well, it's a complicated situation and I don't want to pick any sides" perspective (many of whom still hold that position today).

As for Israel taking Gaza right after October 7th to "Show them that their lives will improve"--that's just ridiculous. Aside from the fact that the US was rather specific with Israel that they *not* re-occupy Gaza as part of their retaliation, the Palestinian "government"/people have made it clear their entire purpose in life is to kill Jews. Many defectors have gone on and on about the variety of ways the entire culture (from young children in school to doctors, journalists, and whoever else!) has had tunnel vision for at least the last 20 years. Reason, logic, compassion, and even self-preservation are not valued the same way as most other societies on Earth. There is simply no greater purpose in life, according to millions of Palestinians themselves, than killing Jews.


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I used to assume the Muslim jew beef was thousands of years old religious thing, but I think they actually got along ok until mid 1900s, Christians arguably had rockier history with both.

The way I figure it, Israel is a threat to Muslim countries because they believe in progressive values like women's rights and democracy more. They show the whole area that there is another way. If Muslims got progressive, they would probably act like Israel, still culty about their religion and into the past tradition but in a more functional and freer way. Hence the radicals understand the existential threat of this and hate them for it.

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One of the seven pillars of Islam is Struggle, meaning to confront the enemy of the faith of Islam. It's not peace (like other religions). It's essentially fight. So you can so easily understand how that can turn into hatred, instigation, etc.

Jews want peace. Muslims want war. You can't go wrong with that point of view. Free lesson there for y'all. You're welcome. ;)

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