Um, no. I said nothing remotely like that. I'm asking for any argument as to why someone should vote FOR McCain and not just AGAINST Obama.

I take it you have none. That's kind of what I thought.

Independent analysis shows that in fact McCain's proposals create a bigger deficit than Obama's. Neither man can balance the budget according to their policy proposals, but Obama comes closer.

The rest seem pretty fair, if debatable. It's ironic that the ONLY one coming even close to making a pro-McCain argument is an Obama supporter.

Anyone else?

they basically have all the same goals with Obama wanting to put up more guidelines, regulations. Nothing major.

well government and the law should be separate entities. looking at the US Supreme Court, there is nothing fair and balanced going on. the fact that the President can give someone a job like that is an hypocrisy.

I voted for McCain for one main reason: Judges. Stevens and Ginsberg are likely to leave/die in the next four years. A slight shift rightward (for lack of a better term), with either replacement, will shift the court immensely.

Commerce Clause, 10-11th Amendment(s), Spending Clause, maybe the 2nd amendment, and aspects of the 4th Amendment (like searches of cars) could change immensely. Abortion as well, but I don't care about that.

"Fair and Balanced?" What do you mean by this? If government and law are not related, how else could laws be enacted? By judicial fiat? A return to common law and equity courts?

I don't know what hypocrisy you speak of and the president does not give members of the S.C. a job. He appoints them with advice and consent from the Senate.

Oh please, nobody is touching the 2nd Amendment as long as the US isn't teetering on the brink of apocalypse.

Barack

governments make a law. a judges job is to interpret the law. that's what i mean about fair and balanced.

and your last sentence more less is what i'm saying. is it even ok for them to be a registered R or D?

After 8 years of Bush, Republicans are suddenly interested in what the Constitution says? Yeah, right.

That's pretty much the number 1 thing I vote on. I don't understand how someone couldn't 'care' about that. Its making an entire half of the population second-class citizens...


To be fare to people who are proposing a vote in one direction based on not likeing the other; I pretty much am voting for the Democratic candidate because I hate the alternative positions, so that's as normal an arguement as any, I guess.

What makes you think he cares about ANY of it? He sure didn't care about the Constitution when he voted for Bush in 2004. Bush and the Republicans had already suspended habeas corpus and allowed the president to detain and torture any American citizen without cause or oversight. There have been American citizens who languished in prisons being tortured and held without any access to lawyers or the courts when Kidrock threw his support behind Bush 4 years ago.

Uh? That wasn't the point of my post.

My post was not whether you interpret a candidate as being good or bad on a certain subject; it was about not caring about the subject at all. I don't understand how someone can relegate an issue that affects everyone in this country and strips more than half the population of the power to control their own bodies to the lowest rung of his/her considerations.

I understand and I agree. And I'm saying that Kidrock69 isn't making any particular exception for abortion. Kidrock cast his vote in 2004 in favor of the government's ability to detain you indefinitely, suspend your habeas corpus rights, torture you to the brink of insanity or death, and keep you away from lawyers and the courts forever. If he doesn't care about those rights, of course abortion isn't going to rank on his list of things to get all worked up over.

Actually I voted for Bush in '04 based mainly on judges with Iraq a close second, but I will defer to your superior knowledge of my subjective state of mind.

I think I have said this a number of times. The only cases I can think of where habeas corpus looked like it was suspended, was with Jose Padilla and Yasser Hamdi. In both cases I was against what the government was doing with them and what do you know, it was judges that affected their outcome.

I do not support suspending any U.S. citizens habeas corpus rights, probable cause rights (except when you're not in your home), right to counsel, etc. The difference is I do not extend those rights outside of the United States.

Even though I do support torturing terrorists, I do think they deserve some sort of due process regarding their detainment. However, I do not believe that means an Article III court. I think an Article I court without appeal to an Article III court would be perfectly reasonable.

Dolce, I don't care about abortion simply because it has no effect on me. I would prefer that the issue was relegated to the states simply so people could vote on it, sorta like Prop 8 in California. However, it is not something I vote on (that doesn't mean it as an issue is not something I wold vote for or against if it was put on a ballot).

How do you know which ones are the terrorists? what if it is a case of mistaken identity or wrong place at the wrong time. the only reason why the US Government has Guantanamo Bay is so they can torture them and waiver their rights, especially even if they are not citizens of the United States.

seriously, ignorance is bliss for u.

I don't understand how a self-described libertarian is pro-torture in any case. Have libertarians become so pathetic in general it's just a catch-all term for people who really hate taxes?

I agree completely, which is why I am voting for Obama, since I disagree with you on all those issues!

Interesting. I highly doubt it - IMO, you can't introduce a vast new entitlement program and have a more balanced budget with it, but I would like to see this analysis.


My support for Obama is chiefly due to hatred of McRobot. The best election outcome, for me, would be the narrowest possible Obama victory. Alas, that's not going to happen - Obama wins by a landslide.

You ignorantly support communism with all of your posts. If you don't know what I'm talking about, educate yourself!

What ever happened to sane Mav?

I haven't gone insane yet! That's bound to change in 6 months once the baby arrives, though.

Woah? That came out of nowhere.

It's a life changer, that's for sure! I can't wait to find out if it's a boy or a girl.

congrats, Mav

if it's a boy u should name him Anakin.