She'd be a Barbara Boxer or Nancy Pelosi or Diane Feinstein.

Your overgeneralizing black people, you assume all black people will graviate towards the same leader, but there really has not been a unifying leader in the black community for awhile.

Look at the differences between Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and who they appeal to.

Black people don't just blindly follow every black guy who makes a speech.

He's not saying that Ripper.

You're obviously not seeing it from where he wants you to see it from. But it is a true statement.

You're right, and thank god for that!

I don't mean to say that if you put a black man on a stage, black people will blindly follow him wherever he leads them. Not at all.

I am saying that if you put a charismatic, energetic leader on the stage, someone who has the ability to inspire, the ability to make people believe change is possible, then they will follow them in droves because it's easier for them to associate with that person, because of the color of his skin, than a white man.

It's just general psychology, for better or worse, we don't really know why it is, just that it is.

Eagle, you just dont like Obama. You might aswell say it

Not at all, quite the contrary.

I haven't even decided who I'll vote for, though, in all honesty, I am leaning toward McCain as of now. But given a choice between Obama and Clinton, I would happily take Obama. I'm extremely happy that he SHOULD end up the nominee, I'll be happy with either him or McCain.

The point was you continue to make generalizations about certain groups. Hillary's support with Hispanics is similar to the support she has received among the group her entire political career. I'm saying it's not a vote against Obama, it's a vote for Hillary. If Obama is the Democratic candidate come November he will still easily win a majority of the Hispanic vote in the general election.

If that was not true, however, it would provide evidence against your theory, showing one way in which his race has hurt him more than it has helped him. Hispanics make up an equal part of the population in the country as African Americans. If you are suggesting that an important reason of why Hispanics are not voting for Obama is his race, then almost without taking into account whites and other groups any benefit he received from his support among blacks would almost vanish.

Sure

Clinton is benefiting from her gender just as much as he's benefiting from his race. In fact, in the Democratic party, gender is an even bigger deal because 58-60% of the voters in these primaries have been women. There are far more women voters than black voters, so when she wins with 60% of the female vote, it sometimes neutralizes his black support, especially in states with small black populations. By the way, Clinton got 79% of the Republican vote tonight. Good job, Rush Limbaugh!

You can't just look at one factor and ignore all the others, the events are no independent.

Do people naturally go towards what is similar, yes, but the Clintons have had very strong support in the African-American community.

The Clintons are like the light skinned at the barbecue.

And you know, back men like Obama get called out for acting white in urban neighborhoods all the time, so the whole being black makes people identify with him is not as automatic as you think.

How many black men went to Harvard?

A very valid point Rod, the Hispanic vote could be enough to swing things, that's just the type of thing I wanted to discuss.

Why is it that in Texas, among people who said race was very important, 56% who said it was very important to them were Clinton supporters? There's just as much racism between Latinos and blacks as there is between blacks and whites. In fact, when Obama is getting endorsements from Latino organizations and still losing by ridiculous margins, I think it says something about the tensions between those ethnic groups. He is just as good on Latino issues as Clinton, if not better on those issues, yet they completely ignored it in the Texas primary.

Never underestimate any groups ability to hold racial grudges, political leaders have been exploiting this fact since the dawn of time.

There is sooo much tension between hispanic/latino's and african american's. It's actually kind of scary.

I agree, it is. In fact, you could easily argue it's stronger than black/white tensions. It seems to be more widespread, even if it's not as intense as say the KKK or anything over the top like that. It's just sort of a negative opinion that each side olds towards the other and I have no doubt that if Obama was hispanic, the roles would be reversed in Texas. The blacks would have gone 90-10 for Clinton and the Latinos would go 90-10 for Obama.

I believe Hispanics won't vote for Obama because he's going to be VERY strict on the border control issue.

Yet Hillary is even MORE strict.

I don't think the US has seen anything like it since maybe Irish immigration years and years ago.

no, but lets be real.

if a white oibama faced off against a bill clionton white house-less hillary, obama would own her

If Obama wasn't black, there would be no Obama to begin with - not, at least, the person we know him as. There are an enormous amount of factors to consider that it is impossible to isolate only the fact that he is black and then to develop an answer. It is impossible, I tell you. All of the answers so far in this thread are ridiculously narrow-minded and insufficient.

Peace,
Mike

Am I the only one who doesn't consider Obama a black man really? This is why I find his and the media's race card playing very annoying. He's as white as white can get (except witrh darker skinhehe).

Racist much?

Exactly. Now go tell that to the Latinos that voted against him because he's "black."

um, go tell the white's who are voting against him because he's black to do the same. I don't get it. lol

I don't think as high of a percentage of whites did it as Latinos in Texas.