It wouldn't be a stepping stone to 2012 if she wins. It would also force him to become a daily defender and spokesperson for someone he probably can't stand.

Told ya.

not surprising.

10 out of 23 counties in Wyoming have reported, and Obama is leading 66%-33%, thanks to Albany's huge winning margin:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primar ... MMAPcaucus

He could easily respond that he didn't claim to be a uniter of the party but of the nation and he can't achieve that if he's the number 2 man to the most divisive Democratic politician of the last 30 years.

He hasn't run a smear campaign and there's nothing negative about saying he won't be vp - he has no reason to accept vp when he's ahead in states and delegates and probably the popular vote as well.

But I agree with you that Hillary's plan was to get him off message. It won't help her win, but it will help her cripple Obama so that McCain won't have a hard time beating him, which seems to be her real goal. She's basically a Huckabee staying in the race for her own purposes. But you have to hand it to Huckabee, at least he behaved with class and dignity.

Ummm guys....you said you wont see his a s vp while hes the leader. if hillary takes the lead in votes or delegates its a different story. Corpse he has run a few smear ads and they worked pretty damn well, they ran before feb 5th. the "she does anything to in" stuff

Clinton supporters havent noticed but tend to listen to barack over hillary, you dont want him persoinally pubically mauling her because more people will believe it.

I think him saying that actually helps him.

Because all the people who wanted BOTH in office and are voting for Hillary are questioning themselves because they want Obama in more than Hillary.

And voting for him would be the only way.

EXACTLY.

In recent days Hillary gotten press for saying she might have him as her VP. Its obviously a ploy to the undecided that if they vote for her, they might be voting for them both. Now its not the case.

He be dumb to take it. I think if Hillary is the nominee McCain would kill her anyway and Obama can just run against Edwards and who ever else in 2012 (Hillary wouldn't get a second chance much like Kerry and Gore haven't).

As a Pennsylvania resident, I've never witnessed a competitive presidential race. Am looking forward to 6 more weeks of nastiness! (Did the groundhog have something to do with that?)

OK, the biggest county Laramie, where Cheyenne is located, finished reporting, so only 5 smaller counties left, and Obama is winning Wyoming for sure, probably gaining 2 delegates (7-5; doesn't look like the margin will be big enough for 8-4).

Im gonna say it now, The end of Hillarys road may be in North Carolina. After Mississippi, Obama shoud have roughly 165 pledged delegate lead on clinton and about 130 total delegate lead on her.

(^using rcp's totals)

If she does not win Pennsylvania, shes done, obviously. But realistically she will win but it will probably by a 8-12% win at most. Again 75% of the states population are cities and urban areas, places that heavily favors Obama.

The thing is, if thats the case she'll get roughly 84-85 delegates to his 68-70. That pledged delegate lead will drop to about 150ish. Than NC has 100 delegates and polls have Obama winning by about 100%. Assuming polls hold which they should, I cant recall a place where Hillarey trailed early (nor as large as 10%) and ended up winning in this whole process. After NC, the leada back up 156 and with no real major states left...itd be all over.


http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon0306gs.html

europe also appearently loves Obama.

I agree!

Oh, and check this out:

http://www.theonion.com/content/opinion ... _day_is_it

Do you print in rose because of your rose colored glasses?



You really think that Hillary's supporters are going to vote for McCain? And, I might point out, that a more significant number of his own party are supporting him than her.



And Obama agrees, which is why he fired her. Hillary, on the other hand, surrounds herself with people like that. It's part of her campaign strategy after all -- attack with the "kitchen sink" and see what sticks. I find it hard to believe any Hillary supporter who criticizes Obama on the ethics issue.

Oh, and your point about caucuses verses primaries? If you think primaries are better and better represent the will of the people, then can you explain why you are not supporting Obama, since he has the higher number of popular votes as well?

Than explain how Hillaryis supopsed to do it, because thst just about the only way she can.

I love how people continue to dimiss Hillary when three times she's proven she can't be dismissed. How fun it will be when she's the nominee.

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Bullshit, Hillary won't unite the party, she has first off pissed off people like me who are democrats and who now can't stand her. I think 60% of Obama supports either will vote for an independent or sit home. I know I would never vote for her now even if it means 4 for more years of a Republican.
She is just a republican in democrat clothes.

Hillary would be as Democrat-only as Bush was for Republicans, I think we're all sick of that. Both Obama and McCain would be more in the middle and would concentrate on both sides.

Obama would also have a much easier time in the general election than her, to say the least

A girl has a suggestion for an ad for Obama.

The political ad that sparked nationwide controversy turns out to have a surprising local connection.

One of the actors in the Hillary Clinton ad was shocked to see herself, especially because she's a fierce supporter of Barack Obama.

The so-called "red-phone ad" was played all over the country and helped turn the tide for Hillary Clinton leading up to her big win in Ohio. The ad shows a sleeping child and asks voters who they would want to see answering a 3 a.m. emergency phone call to the White House.

But the young girl starring in the ad will actually be voting age next month and says she's no fan of Hillary Clinton.

Thursday night, the Knowles family of Bonney Lake, Wash., watched the Jon Stewart Show and saw the ad for the first time.

"I looked and saw a girl that looked like my sister and we rewound it and sure enough it was my sister," said Brady Knowles.

The first girl in the ad is young Casey Knowles. It's stock footage from eight years ago when she worked as a TV extra - footage owned now by Getty Images and used by the Clinton campaign.

But they couldn't have picked a more unwilling star.

"It's really sort of ironic that my image would be used to advocate for Hillary when I myself do not," said Casey.

She may only be 17, but Casey has some very strong political opinions. She turns 18 - legal voting age - in April, in plenty of time before the general election.

"It's perfect timing because I have a candidate that I really identify with," she said.

"I've been campaigning for Barack Obama for a few months now," she said. "I was actually a precinct captain at the caucuses a few months ago. I attended his rally a few months ago and I'm a very, very avid supporter."

The Knowles family admit they have no control over how the footage is used. And while they see the humor of it all, they are mildly annoyed.

"I think it would be really wonderful if me and Barack Obama could get together and make a nice counter ad," she laughed.