The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
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Corpse
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 Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
It's obviously not Antifa, if only for the fact that Trump says he loves the people that did this today. He. Said. He. Loved. Them. The video has since been deleted, thankfully. He was clearly proud that his behavior today.
Let's see if his Twitter suspension will force him off the toilet to address the nation tonight. Although I don't think any stations should even air anything from him moving forward, or at least put it on a huge delay to pull it as soon as he begins his nonsense.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:52 pm |
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Jiffy
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 Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
Shack wrote: The violence was probably ANTIFA dressed as MAGA, with the goal being to blame it on Trump after. However unless it was on purpose, Trump is stupid for advertising the Jan 6th so much, it was asking for ANTIFA to do this. You do realize this is crazy.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:54 pm |
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Alex Y.
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Jack Sparrow wrote: Alex Y. wrote: Conspiracist theories that 25th amendment was secretly invoked, thus giving Pence the authority the authority to order the National Guard there, which a VP had no authority to do. If it did happen, I don’t think will be revealed for awhile to prevent rioting. You think it should have continued it was then? Let people riot and destroy things (maybe even threaten or kill officials in the process) ? Very surprising view point given your statements about riots earlier. My viewpoint is just the second sentence, the first sentence is about what I read elsewhere. if we compare to what happened after George Floyd, the first protests in Minnesota were much smaller scale than what happened nationwide in the weekend, and in ensuing months. If Pence did become president—someone who many people considered to be a traitor earlier today—that info being released to the public would anger a lot of violent people to trigger further riots. Yes, violent people exist on both the left and right. This weekend, and Inauguration Day, are definitely days the general public would be safer at home.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:09 pm |
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zwackerm
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Is this the worst week for the GOP in all of history, between losing the senate and this absolute embarrassment? Potentially.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:14 pm |
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Alex Y.
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Jiffy wrote: Shack wrote: The violence was probably ANTIFA dressed as MAGA, with the goal being to blame it on Trump after. However unless it was on purpose, Trump is stupid for advertising the Jan 6th so much, it was asking for ANTIFA to do this. You do realize this is crazy. Not really, I think a lot of (mostly white) Antifa don’t care about black people, but corrupted the BLM cause to cause destruction and chaos. What’s been revealed about some of the Antifa in Kenosha (and elsewhere), where the white Antifa guy yells the n-word at Kyle Rittenhouse, they use any cause at an excuse to stir up violence and vandalism.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:15 pm |
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Shack
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Corpse wrote: It's obviously not Antifa, if only for the fact that Trump says he loves the people that did this today. He. Said. He. Loved. Them. The video has since been deleted, thankfully. He was clearly proud that his behavior today.
He told the protestors to go home. There was nothing wrong with the video twitter censored.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:15 pm |
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Corpse
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Shack wrote: Corpse wrote: It's obviously not Antifa, if only for the fact that Trump says he loves the people that did this today. He. Said. He. Loved. Them. The video has since been deleted, thankfully. He was clearly proud that his behavior today.
He told the protestors to go home. There was nothing wrong with the video twitter censored. Only after inciting even more potential violence by riling them up even MORE by going on about how the election was stolen, saying he loved them, only then did he tell them to go home in peace. Twitter had to actually suspend his account tonight. Even Facebook of all places took down that disturbing video.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:27 pm |
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Shack
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Alex Y. wrote: Jiffy wrote: Shack wrote: The violence was probably ANTIFA dressed as MAGA, with the goal being to blame it on Trump after. However unless it was on purpose, Trump is stupid for advertising the Jan 6th so much, it was asking for ANTIFA to do this. You do realize this is crazy. Not really, I think a lot of (mostly white) Antifa don’t care about black people, but corrupted the BLM cause to cause destruction and chaos. What’s been revealed about some of the Antifa in Kenosha (and elsewhere), where the white Antifa guy yells the n-word at Kyle Rittenhouse, they use any cause at an excuse to stir up violence and vandalism. They probably would've been doing Democrats bidding. Now that they're back to finish it tonight and they're laying it on so thick with Chuck Schumer comparing it to Pearl Harbour, it seems an awfully convenient event to allow the Democrats and RINOs to now rally behind Biden and condemn Trump, and do away with objections that were planned today. Also if Pence turned on Trump for real, it's possible they try to use the 25th amendment to remove Trump before the next 2 weeks.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:33 pm |
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Alex Y.
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Trump’s Twitter locked already, more hint at the theory that Pence is secretly already president.
What I was afraid of this summer, and also right after the election, is if there are mass shootings from gun-carrying violent people. The LA riots of 1992 had a lot of deaths when Korean shop owners shot back and forth with the rioters and looters, which I am thankful didn’t happen this summer. It will be extra scary if these mass shooters that took a break in 2020 come back in 2021. I definitely condemn them and have zero empathy with them, regardless of if they share any similar political beliefs.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:33 pm |
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Corpse
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The only person turning on anyone is Trump turning his back on America and all its people today.
Facebook also suspended Trump's account a bit ago too.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:39 pm |
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Excel
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Shack wrote: Trump is stupid BREAKTHROUGH MOMENT His grand plan was to get his Twitter account removed and inspire Pence to invoke the 25th.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:40 pm |
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Jiffy
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Alex Y. wrote: Jiffy wrote: Shack wrote: The violence was probably ANTIFA dressed as MAGA, with the goal being to blame it on Trump after. However unless it was on purpose, Trump is stupid for advertising the Jan 6th so much, it was asking for ANTIFA to do this. You do realize this is crazy. Not really, I think a lot of (mostly white) Antifa don’t care about black people, but corrupted the BLM cause to cause destruction and chaos. What’s been revealed about some of the Antifa in Kenosha (and elsewhere), where the white Antifa guy yells the n-word at Kyle Rittenhouse, they use any cause at an excuse to stir up violence and vandalism. https://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status ... 92994?s=20https://twitter.com/Ashli_Babbitt/statu ... 16098?s=20Those Antifa psyops are impressively effective, in that case. Brainwashed her into being a double agent and sacrificial lamb.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:01 pm |
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Shack
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Excel wrote: Shack wrote: Trump is stupid BREAKTHROUGH MOMENT His grand plan was to get his Twitter account removed and inspire Pence to invoke the 25th. I'll say what I feel will be the case if nothing changes and Trump loses (which I still don't think will happen) I will consider his failure being weak, not stupid. After years of being harassed by them and the media, he let the Democrats walk all over him abusing the people with lockdowns, riots and then stealing two elections and probably ending democracy in america, and largely did nothing about it. Because he believes in states rights he let them handle their own business. The guy who killed Qasam Soleimani to send a message about crossing America was not the same guy as the one who let riots happen all year. The point of Trump was that he was the opposite of weak Republicans like Mitt, and he will have been a letdown in that area if he doesn't have a plan to turn this around and nuke the entire swamp.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:01 pm |
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Alex Y.
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Jiffy wrote: Alex Y. wrote: Jiffy wrote: Shack wrote: The violence was probably ANTIFA dressed as MAGA, with the goal being to blame it on Trump after. However unless it was on purpose, Trump is stupid for advertising the Jan 6th so much, it was asking for ANTIFA to do this. You do realize this is crazy. Not really, I think a lot of (mostly white) Antifa don’t care about black people, but corrupted the BLM cause to cause destruction and chaos. What’s been revealed about some of the Antifa in Kenosha (and elsewhere), where the white Antifa guy yells the n-word at Kyle Rittenhouse, they use any cause at an excuse to stir up violence and vandalism. https://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status ... 92994?s=20https://twitter.com/Ashli_Babbitt/statu ... 16098?s=20Those Antifa psyops are impressively effective, in that case. Brainwashed her into being a double agent and sacrificial lamb. From what I read, she was unarmed when law enforcement shot her, and the only gunfire was from law enforcement. There wasn’t much violence today compared to what happened last summer.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:08 pm |
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Jiffy
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Alex Y. wrote: Jiffy wrote: Alex Y. wrote: Jiffy wrote: Shack wrote: The violence was probably ANTIFA dressed as MAGA, with the goal being to blame it on Trump after. However unless it was on purpose, Trump is stupid for advertising the Jan 6th so much, it was asking for ANTIFA to do this. You do realize this is crazy. Not really, I think a lot of (mostly white) Antifa don’t care about black people, but corrupted the BLM cause to cause destruction and chaos. What’s been revealed about some of the Antifa in Kenosha (and elsewhere), where the white Antifa guy yells the n-word at Kyle Rittenhouse, they use any cause at an excuse to stir up violence and vandalism. https://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status ... 92994?s=20https://twitter.com/Ashli_Babbitt/statu ... 16098?s=20Those Antifa psyops are impressively effective, in that case. Brainwashed her into being a double agent and sacrificial lamb. From what I read, she was unarmed when law enforcement shot her, and the only gunfire was from law enforcement. There wasn’t much violence today compared to what happened last summer. Was she an Antifa operative or no.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:10 pm |
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Excel
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Shack wrote: Excel wrote: Shack wrote: Trump is stupid BREAKTHROUGH MOMENT His grand plan was to get his Twitter account removed and inspire Pence to invoke the 25th. I'll say what I feel will be the case if nothing changes and Trump loses (which I still don't think will happen) I will consider his failure being weak, not stupid. After years of being harassed by them and the media, he let the Democrats walk all over him abusing the people with lockdowns, riots and then stealing two elections and probably ending democracy in america, and largely did nothing about it. Because he believes in states rights he let them handle their own business. The guy who killed Qasam Soleimani to send a message about crossing America was not the same guy as the one who let riots happen all year. The point of Trump was that he was the opposite of weak Republicans like Mitt, and he will have been a letdown in that area if he doesn't have a plan to turn this around and nuke the entire swamp. It isn't that he is weak. He has no other moves. Trump has pushed it, truly, as far as he could before intervention would occur. There was never a grand plan dude. Admit it.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:26 pm |
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Alex Y.
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Jiffy wrote: Alex Y. wrote: Jiffy wrote: Alex Y. wrote: Jiffy wrote: Shack wrote: The violence was probably ANTIFA dressed as MAGA, with the goal being to blame it on Trump after. However unless it was on purpose, Trump is stupid for advertising the Jan 6th so much, it was asking for ANTIFA to do this. You do realize this is crazy. Not really, I think a lot of (mostly white) Antifa don’t care about black people, but corrupted the BLM cause to cause destruction and chaos. What’s been revealed about some of the Antifa in Kenosha (and elsewhere), where the white Antifa guy yells the n-word at Kyle Rittenhouse, they use any cause at an excuse to stir up violence and vandalism. https://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status ... 92994?s=20https://twitter.com/Ashli_Babbitt/statu ... 16098?s=20Those Antifa psyops are impressively effective, in that case. Brainwashed her into being a double agent and sacrificial lamb. From what I read, she was unarmed when law enforcement shot her, and the only gunfire was from law enforcement. There wasn’t much violence today compared to what happened last summer. Was she an Antifa operative or no. I don’t believe so, the Antifa are the violent ones with weapons.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:31 pm |
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Excel
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Romney is easily the best Republican of this millennium. It isn't close.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:37 pm |
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Alex Y.
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The media is partly complicit in what happened today, The media’s reaction to today’s events, they should’ve had the same outrage to the riots, trespassing, and violence last summer, The message we got last summer from the media is that mob rule ok if you believe in your cause, and in fact you are encouraged to violate any government stay at home order to do so if you believe in your cause enough,
Whatever outrage you feel about today, many Trump supporters already felt that way last summer in the complicit condoning of allowing mob rule to kill dozens of people and destroying thousands of small businesses and government buildings last summer,
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:42 pm |
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Jiffy
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Alex Y. wrote: Jiffy wrote: Alex Y. wrote: Jiffy wrote: Alex Y. wrote: Jiffy wrote: You do realize this is crazy. Not really, I think a lot of (mostly white) Antifa don’t care about black people, but corrupted the BLM cause to cause destruction and chaos. What’s been revealed about some of the Antifa in Kenosha (and elsewhere), where the white Antifa guy yells the n-word at Kyle Rittenhouse, they use any cause at an excuse to stir up violence and vandalism. https://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status ... 92994?s=20https://twitter.com/Ashli_Babbitt/statu ... 16098?s=20Those Antifa psyops are impressively effective, in that case. Brainwashed her into being a double agent and sacrificial lamb. From what I read, she was unarmed when law enforcement shot her, and the only gunfire was from law enforcement. There wasn’t much violence today compared to what happened last summer. Was she an Antifa operative or no. I don’t believe so, the Antifa are the violent ones with weapons. Ah so what percentage of the people storming the capitol were secretly Antifa, do you think. And the true MAGA-heads don't carry guns?
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:53 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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Alex Y. wrote: The media is partly complicit in what happened today, The media’s reaction to today’s events, they should’ve had the same outrage to the riots, trespassing, and violence last summer, The message we got last summer from the media is that mob rule ok if you believe in your cause, and in fact you are encouraged to violate any government stay at home order to do so if you believe in your cause enough,
Whatever outrage you feel about today, many Trump supporters already felt that way last summer in the complicit condoning of allowing mob rule to kill dozens of people and destroying thousands of small businesses and government buildings last summer, No one in their right mind expected a President to cause riots because he is loosing an election. People expected a riot because of the long fight of racial injustice which seemed to be getting better but there was a proof that it was the same underneath all that façade. Has there been any riots against the election officials in the past few years? NO/NEVER. Has there been riots against racial injustice? HAPPENS ONCE IN A WHILE. You do not get much reaction when it is somewhere in the back of your mind that a riot would happen because of this. Not in this thread but I remember seeing more reactions about the summer riot in the forum. In international news after first few hours read more about Floyd than I have heard about today's debacle. Also comparing two riots (however similar you think the situation is) is just not cutting as an argument anymore. We are not playing the blame game here nor are we trying to shift the blame to multiple parties and if we do then let's start at the source. What was the need to incite and rile the crowd in front of Capitol? This is even more absurd(or make things clear) when you take in (and support) Shack's absurd claims that Trump has/had a master plan all along for 6th Jan which was already heavily publicized days before.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:27 pm |
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Alex Y.
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No idea the percentage, but these people are some examples: https://amp.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... rotesters/Again, I don’t believe these Antifa care about black people either,
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:33 pm |
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Shack
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Basically the entire government was in one building, and they don't have good enough security to stop some random wackos in viking horns from getting in?
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:36 pm |
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Excel
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No Republican Senators back the objection to Georgia electoral votes. Wow.
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Yeah, this is making this whole thing go much faster
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