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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36949
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 Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
Aren't election officials in question from Shack’s perspective? Shack's theory seems to be heading towards "anyone speaking against Trump is wrong or enemy" and "Trump has a master plan which he has been hiding for months and it is so big that it will flip the election" (I'm guessing the second has never happened in the history of US elections)
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25427 Location: Classified
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Go Georgia!!
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:40 am |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40596
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 Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
Excel wrote: How is it a "model" when it is Republican controlled? You are so clearly brand new to this, it's funny. Heavily populated cities ALWAYS report last. In 2000, 2004, and 2016, too.  In previous elections you didn't have situations occurring on a regular basis where a candidate is up 3% with 91% of the vote in, and then tied with 95% of the vote in about 5 minutes, because a county that had stopped counting for 2 hours released half the county's votes at once with 130 thousand of them going to one person and 20 thousand to another, basically exactly enough to erase the lead. The early/mail in votes were actually supposed to come in earlier than the in person votes this time, except DeKalb froze at 40% so it still led to the mail in dump being later. Perdue up 3% and Loeffler up 2% with 91% of the vote in would have looked like a win for the Republicans in any other election, except in this one it was actually already called for the Democrats at that point, because they knew full well what was going to happen. The only reason massive dumps with 90% Democrat votes after hours of waiting is considered normal is the mail in voting system which is awfully convenient for them. It could not be more obvious frankly, and unfortunately for the Democrats, it would have been very obvious to Trump too who was predicting the first one let alone the second one where they had the exact same plan. That they expected him to just sit back and take it a second time in the same way is the type of thinking and misjudging of their opponent that will soon lead to their demise.
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36949
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 Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
Isn't this election a little different where in more mail-in ballots are expected than usual? Maybe they "think" its that high of a % vote-count because of previous years but due to pandemic and more mail-in ballots this is happening?
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:46 am |
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25427 Location: Classified
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Jack Sparrow wrote: Isn't this election a little different where in more mail-in ballots are expected than usual? Maybe they "think" its that high of a % vote-count because of previous years but due to pandemic and more mail-in ballots this is happening? Covid is a hoax so obviously the mail-in ballots are too.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:58 am |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36949
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Flava'd vs The World wrote: Jack Sparrow wrote: Isn't this election a little different where in more mail-in ballots are expected than usual? Maybe they "think" its that high of a % vote-count because of previous years but due to pandemic and more mail-in ballots this is happening? Covid is a hoax so obviously the mail-in ballots are too. Ah yes that's true 
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:37 am |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11624 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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Trump has been a disaster for the GOP this election. This should have been a layup for the GOP, but Trump and Lin Wood have been sowing enough doubt in the election to get voters to boycott the election. Next he is about to ruin Pence’s career in the next two days and divide the GOP.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:45 am |
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22213 Location: Places
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Expect Trump to get a ton of heat from Republicans over this. Shack wrote: Excel wrote: How is it a "model" when it is Republican controlled? You are so clearly brand new to this, it's funny. Heavily populated cities ALWAYS report last. In 2000, 2004, and 2016, too.  In previous elections you didn't have situations occurring on a regular basis where a candidate is up 3% with 91% of the vote in, and then tied with 95% of the vote in about 5 minutes, because a county that had stopped counting for 2 hours released half the county's votes at once with 130 thousand of them going to one person and 20 thousand to another, basically exactly enough to erase the lead. The early/mail in votes were actually supposed to come in earlier than the in person votes this time, except DeKalb froze at 40% so it still led to the mail in dump being later. Perdue up 3% and Loeffler up 2% with 91% of the vote in would have looked like a win for the Republicans in any other election, except in this one it was actually already called for the Democrats at that point, because they knew full well what was going to happen. The only reason massive dumps with 90% Democrat votes after hours of waiting is considered normal is the mail in voting system which is awfully convenient for them. It could not be more obvious frankly, and unfortunately for the Democrats, it would have been very obvious to Trump too who was predicting the first one let alone the second one where they had the exact same plan. That they expected him to just sit back and take it a second time in the same way is the type of thinking and misjudging of their opponent that will soon lead to their demise. Dude you keep getting this same point wrong. "With 91% of the vote in" - that number is wrong. In high turnout elections, its really 75-80% of the vote in, not 91%, and then that remaining vote goes heavily one direction, its enough Basic mathematics.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:23 am |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21596 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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God. Time to pray.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:42 am |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21596 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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So what will the Democrats try and pass with their control of all three houses?
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:07 am |
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:07 pm Posts: 28301 Location: ... siiiigh...
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Kale will be mandatory with every single meal. Straight couples are no longer a thing. If you say Merry Christmas, you go to prison for 100 years.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:49 am |
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32632 Location: the last free city
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Stacey Abrams and the people of Georgia have saved DEMOCRACY twice the past couple months. We can't thank them enough. Bye, bye Trump! Mitch "you have NO POWER here!"
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:55 am |
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32632 Location: the last free city
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Libs wrote: Also, so excited to have a hot Senator (Ossoff) who I can stare at for 6 years, whew. Seeing people retweet his old 'nerd/geeky' tweets last night.  Didn't know he was a Star Wars fan 
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:04 am |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11624 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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zwackerm wrote: So what will the Democrats try and pass with their control of all three houses? Considering even one Democrat vote means the law won’t pass, honestly nothing too dramatic. Expect another stimulus check for sure though.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:18 am |
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32632 Location: the last free city
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:22 am |
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Libs
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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Shack wrote: Excel wrote: How is it a "model" when it is Republican controlled? You are so clearly brand new to this, it's funny. Heavily populated cities ALWAYS report last. In 2000, 2004, and 2016, too.  In previous elections you didn't have situations occurring on a regular basis where a candidate is up 3% with 91% of the vote in, and then tied with 95% of the vote in about 5 minutes, because a county that had stopped counting for 2 hours released half the county's votes at once with 130 thousand of them going to one person and 20 thousand to another, basically exactly enough to erase the lead. The early/mail in votes were actually supposed to come in earlier than the in person votes this time, except DeKalb froze at 40% so it still led to the mail in dump being later. Perdue up 3% and Loeffler up 2% with 91% of the vote in would have looked like a win for the Republicans in any other election, except in this one it was actually already called for the Democrats at that point, because they knew full well what was going to happen. The only reason massive dumps with 90% Democrat votes after hours of waiting is considered normal is the mail in voting system which is awfully convenient for them. It could not be more obvious frankly, and unfortunately for the Democrats, it would have been very obvious to Trump too who was predicting the first one let alone the second one where they had the exact same plan. That they expected him to just sit back and take it a second time in the same way is the type of thinking and misjudging of their opponent that will soon lead to their demise. ...or both Perdue and LOLffler are absolutely garbage candidates and incompetent politicians, Georgia has rapidly become a purple state thanks in large part to Stacey Abrams, and your boy Donnie's erratic behavior placed considerable distrust in voting in this runoff. Love how it's only rigged when Democrats win, but everything is completely kosher if a Republican does. You fool.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:32 am |
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32632 Location: the last free city
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Libs wrote: Shack wrote: Excel wrote: How is it a "model" when it is Republican controlled? You are so clearly brand new to this, it's funny. Heavily populated cities ALWAYS report last. In 2000, 2004, and 2016, too.  In previous elections you didn't have situations occurring on a regular basis where a candidate is up 3% with 91% of the vote in, and then tied with 95% of the vote in about 5 minutes, because a county that had stopped counting for 2 hours released half the county's votes at once with 130 thousand of them going to one person and 20 thousand to another, basically exactly enough to erase the lead. The early/mail in votes were actually supposed to come in earlier than the in person votes this time, except DeKalb froze at 40% so it still led to the mail in dump being later. Perdue up 3% and Loeffler up 2% with 91% of the vote in would have looked like a win for the Republicans in any other election, except in this one it was actually already called for the Democrats at that point, because they knew full well what was going to happen. The only reason massive dumps with 90% Democrat votes after hours of waiting is considered normal is the mail in voting system which is awfully convenient for them. It could not be more obvious frankly, and unfortunately for the Democrats, it would have been very obvious to Trump too who was predicting the first one let alone the second one where they had the exact same plan. That they expected him to just sit back and take it a second time in the same way is the type of thinking and misjudging of their opponent that will soon lead to their demise. ...or both Perdue and LOLffler are absolutely garbage candidates and incompetent politicians, Georgia has rapidly become a purple state thanks in large part to Stacey Abrams, and your boy Donnie's erratic behavior placed considerable distrust in voting in this runoff. Love how it's only rigged when Democrats win, but everything is completely kosher if a Republican does. You fool. Typical BS  not unexpected
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:47 am |
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Excel
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zwackerm wrote: God. Time to pray. No need, the Dem majority ensures no BS from GOP but is not big enough to pass anything truly nuts. There are moderate Dems who will keep the group uncheck. Remember Dems had more control with Obamacare bill and that took a Herculean effort to pass and used nearly all of the wildly popular Obama's political capital at the time.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:59 am |
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32632 Location: the last free city
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Excel wrote: zwackerm wrote: God. Time to pray. No need, the Dem majority ensures no BS from GOP but is not big enough to pass anything truly nuts. There are moderate Dems who will keep the group uncheck. Remember Dems had more control with Obamacare bill and that took a Herculean effort to pass and used nearly all of the wildly popular Obama's political capital at the time. Don't tell him that  let them freak out to their gods.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:09 am |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21596 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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Some are speculating Joe Manchin will now block the majority of Democratic policy from passing the senate.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:34 am |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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Trump, and his absurd devotees, really screwed things up for the Republican Party. And they continue to do so now with his family, and undoubtedly his devotees and select Congress members, further attacking the Republicans who aren't supporting them and threatening to "primary" them in the future. And I expect this will become even more extreme after today since Trump has set Pence up for failure by telling his devotees that the VP has powers that he does not. A flood of hate is about to hit Pence (and the Republicans in general) for just doing their jobs.
I don't think Trump once attacked Warnock or Ossoff, or if he did, it was embarrassingly minimal. Instead, he opting to bully and attack the Georgia Republican officials for weeks. And McConnell, attempting to play political chess (which he is normally good at), made a mistake by not taking up the stimulus payment relief less than a week before the election. Stacy Abrams is getting a lot of deserved credit for what's happened in Georgia, but Trump, his devotees, and McConnell played nearly as much of a role in what happened in the runoffs.
Republicans, in the past, have almost always rallied behind each other and unified as a party (much moreso than the Democrats), and this has made them very difficult to beat. But now that the infighting is so severe, they're losing states and seats that they've held for 30 years.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:46 am |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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zwackerm wrote: Some are speculating Joe Manchin will now block the majority of Democratic policy from passing the senate. I was about to post that name. He will be the Mirr Romney of the Democrats
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:05 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
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Excel wrote: Expect Trump to get a ton of heat from Republicans over this. Shack wrote: Excel wrote: How is it a "model" when it is Republican controlled? You are so clearly brand new to this, it's funny. Heavily populated cities ALWAYS report last. In 2000, 2004, and 2016, too.  In previous elections you didn't have situations occurring on a regular basis where a candidate is up 3% with 91% of the vote in, and then tied with 95% of the vote in about 5 minutes, because a county that had stopped counting for 2 hours released half the county's votes at once with 130 thousand of them going to one person and 20 thousand to another, basically exactly enough to erase the lead. The early/mail in votes were actually supposed to come in earlier than the in person votes this time, except DeKalb froze at 40% so it still led to the mail in dump being later. Perdue up 3% and Loeffler up 2% with 91% of the vote in would have looked like a win for the Republicans in any other election, except in this one it was actually already called for the Democrats at that point, because they knew full well what was going to happen. The only reason massive dumps with 90% Democrat votes after hours of waiting is considered normal is the mail in voting system which is awfully convenient for them. It could not be more obvious frankly, and unfortunately for the Democrats, it would have been very obvious to Trump too who was predicting the first one let alone the second one where they had the exact same plan. That they expected him to just sit back and take it a second time in the same way is the type of thinking and misjudging of their opponent that will soon lead to their demise. Dude you keep getting this same point wrong. "With 91% of the vote in" - that number is wrong. In high turnout elections, its really 75-80% of the vote in, not 91%, and then that remaining vote goes heavily one direction, its enough Basic mathematics. That's not why they caught up so fast, 4% of the votes came in at once and the Democrats got like 87-88% of them. Which means they get about 3.5% of the 4% from 91% in to 95%. Perdue 3% lead disappears, Loeffler 2% lead turns into 1% deficit.
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:05 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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The Georgian (Republican) Election Official absolutely roasting Trump and his loonies in this news conference. "Democrats were out here knocking on doors and getting 100,000+ people who didn't vote in November to come out for a runoff in January, while Trump was out there attacking us and telling our voters their vote doesn't count." Paraphrasing a bit there, but yeah, exactly the point.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:35 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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We’re entering worst case scenario for the GOP right now as the fight today is between GOP lawmakers only. This is a disaster and not one being overrated by the media for once
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