What he said was that Bush should be tried for human rights abuses, not sitting there during 9-11. And I think his point is that whatever you do to Bush, it wouldn't be considered "torture" since Bush considers the torture techniques he authorized to simply be "harsh interrogation."

And I disagree with him that Bush should be tortured, although I do think he, Cheney, and Rumsfeld should be tried for war crimes and human rights abuses.

That's not hatred. That's wanting accountability and justice. I know you're not familiar with those concepts, but there IS a difference.

Not have Bradley tanks shoot fire into a compound full of kids then tell everyone that they set themselves on fire?

Maybe he would have been more careful if he hadn't also been faking the moon landings, hiding Big Foot, or planning the Kennedy assassination.

Ah, Anton, I should have known you would be a member of the Tin Hat Brigade! You realize, of course, that there is no evidence of that happening, right? But, of course, since it makes Clinton look bad, you believe it.

Do you also believe the government broke the levees in New Orleans to drown all the black people? Oh, of course you don't believe that conspiracy theory, because that would make Bush look bad! You only believe the far out theories that make Democrats look bad, don't you?

Another one.

When Bush took over the office the national debt was 5700 billion.
Now with all that stuff going on and some folks saying the debt can rise to 11300 bilion.....
that would mean the Bush administration has doubled the debt (5700x2=11400)

Well done George.

You mean other than footage of it happening? Waco is the only little-known bit of "conspiratorial" ugliness that doesn't require ignoring a shitload of counter-evidence or making up evidence itself. Aside from election 2000. It didn't have to start off as a conspiracy where Reno and co. were planning to pop kiddies, and if you think that is what I'm thinking, you're totally misguided. Closer to trigger-nervous minions whose superiors got nervous when they made a mess and only made things worse.

As for Bush, they got the oil war, the fueling of Blackwater, Gitmo, the existence of Karl Rove and all the new CIA black sites. What other evils do the Republicans need really? I'm not even going to get into the Democrat thing, that's just idiotic. I'm one of the least partisan people anywhere. Why don't I believe in LBJ being involved in JFK's assassination?

you know when people use "conspiracy" in politics, they really mean propaganda.

Here's a good unbiased FAQ about the incident from PBS' frontline.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... html#fired

I've seen that footage. It makes the footage of bigfoot and UFOs look like irrefutable proof by comparison.

I kinda feel sorry for McCain and Obama. Whoever wins has to clean up the mess of 8 years Bush. And that will mean some painful descicions. So they will become most likely very fast very unpopular.

So with the bailout comming.......Bush will leave behind him a deep red hole in the wallet.

So, does anyone have any idea what George will be doing after he leaves office?
Like Clinton, an ambassador to the world, or...?

I know he used to have partial ownership of the Texas Rangers. Most likely he'll go back to something like that. I know that he loves baseball. Other than that...

Hopefully 10 to 20.

I guess he can forget that because nobody in the world wants to be him anything anymore.