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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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 Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
Larry Hogan is a Republican I, and probably many, more moderate Dems would consider in the Presidential scene.
Unlike the current Rep "leaders" of the party, Hogan knows the importance of separating one's own views for those of the many. His centrist and compromising Governing has allowed him to become hugly popular in a state like Maryland.
And he's correct in calling out Trump for job abandonment. It's gross, and a entirely selfish act of childnishness and irresponsibility.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:16 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40611
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 Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
Libs wrote: Shack wrote: Take it as a warning that Sidney Powell is putting her reputation on the line by going BEYOND ALL IN with these allegations, and Lin Wood, arguably the #1 defamation lawyer in the US after getting Nicholas Sandmann paid, doesn't have a shred of fear of being hit with a defamation lawsuit for what he's saying right now. I doubt they would be doing this without being confident about what they're sitting on. Excel wrote: THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU, TO EVERYONE, ABOUT NEAR EVERYTHING.
Fixed that for you Sidney Powell has been kicked off Trump’s legal team. You were saying? I don't think she was fired, it was more like never officially on the legal team
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Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:20 pm |
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Shack
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Flava'd vs The World wrote: https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2010-hate-crime-statistics
But yeah the right definitely are not violent and always keep their opinions to themselves. Such wholesome people like Kyle Rittenhouse who just raised two million for bail. Part of Wokeism is reacting completely different to the Floyd case compared to if the identical thing happened but it was a black cop kneeling on a white man, or reacting completely different if the Rittenhouse case was identical except it was a black BLM protestor shooting a proud boy . Probably the worst police brutality video/murder of the last 10 years is Daniel Shaver except it barely made a blip because it was white cops and a white victimr. For people who believe justice should be blind and apolitical, which is still the majority of people, they can look at the same situation with Floyd and Rittenhouse and come to the opposite conclusion about whether the law was followed than woke people - and you wonder why people are so divided because the justice system is supposed to ground society and be the thing where everyone is equal. In my opinion comes down to focusing on macro vs micro. Woke people think that BLM given the benefit of the doubt every time is racial justice on a larger scale, while other people look at every individual case. It comes from the same place as the argument that every sexual assault accusation should be believed automatically regardless of the evidence because 97% of the time you'll be right and therefore it's for the greater good.
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Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:24 pm |
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Libs
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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Enough with your excuses. You never admit when you were wrong. She was kicked off because her conspiracy theories are too wacky even for Trump. Let that sink in.
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Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:11 pm |
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Flava'd vs The World
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25435 Location: Classified
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Excel wrote: What is your point? Democrats took things down this road and now, as you note, Republicans are getting on board.
And? My point is the exact opposite lol. Pubs are the Party of Death and Suffering and people are fucking sick of it -thus the riots. I’ll stand by the worst of my party because I think life is more valuable than property even though I disagree with what they are doing. Are you willing to stand with the nazis now that you’re back on Team Conservative?
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Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:23 pm |
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22214 Location: Places
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Flava'd vs The World wrote: Excel wrote: What is your point? Democrats took things down this road and now, as you note, Republicans are getting on board.
And? My point is the exact opposite lol. Pubs are the Party of Death and Suffering and people are fucking sick of it -thus the riots. I’ll stand by the worst of my party because I think life is more valuable than property even though I disagree with what they are doing. Are you willing to stand with the nazis now that you’re back on Team Conservative? You guys literally cannot help yourselves with this team "us vs. them" mentality. It is absurd. Most Republicans who voted for Trump are not racist, are not sexist and hated what happened to George Floyd et al. Stop telling them how they feel. It's absurd. I am thrilled Biden won, but unifying the country is going to take significant action from the woke crowd within the Democrat. Pretty much nobody likes them. Their toxic, off-putting close-mindedness is not bringing any new voters. It is obvious that Trump would have obliterated Bernie. They need to get with the program before they cost us any more wins.
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Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:13 pm |
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Shack
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Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40611
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Libs wrote: Enough with your excuses. You never admit when you were wrong. She was kicked off because her conspiracy theories are too wacky even for Trump. Let that sink in. It sounds like she was never officially paid by the Trump team or filing lawsuits on their behalf, Lin Wood is in the same position right now. Did they clarify it to distance themselves from her... possibly. It's also possible this was to free her up to drop the bomb on the Democrats and possibly even the establishment Republicans in a way someone legally representing Trump wouldn't be allowed to. My main takeaway from fake news twisting this story and Twitter banning her is a sign she's over the target.
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Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:36 pm |
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Shack
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I think it makes sense Trump campaign would distance if Republicans are going to get caught in this too
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Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:27 am |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21607 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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This thread lol I missed some stuff haha.
A big part of the problem with unity in America is people don’t actually personally know or have friends from the other side.
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Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:15 am |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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zwackerm wrote: This thread lol I missed some stuff haha.
A big part of the problem with unity in America is people don’t actually personally know or have friends from the other side. I do
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Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:24 am |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
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Darth Indiana Bond wrote: zwackerm wrote: This thread lol I missed some stuff haha.
A big part of the problem with unity in America is people don’t actually personally know or have friends from the other side. I do Good!
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Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:32 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Thanks 
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Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:49 pm |
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32636 Location: the last free city
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zwackerm wrote: A big part of the problem with unity in America is people don’t actually personally know or have friends from the other side. Half my friends are republican leaning. what about you?
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Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:44 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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It seems like zwack has a lot of Democrats as friends.
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Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:51 pm |
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zwackerm
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Darth Indiana Bond wrote: It seems like zwack has a lot of Democrats as friends. I used to have exclusively Democrat friends back when I did theater. Right now, my church friends lean Republican with about a third having voted for Biden. At work and elsewhere, findinG Republicans is a rarity.
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Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:38 pm |
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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Looks like this nonsense is on its way to concluding soonish. Not only are the States certifying their results, but the GSA has informed Biden's team that they'd (finally) begin the transition process. Emily Murphy really, really didn't want to be questioned by the House, even skipping today. I wonder if she'll appear tomorrow for her briefing, or if the House will continue to pursue whether she does or not now.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32636 Location: the last free city
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Corpse wrote: Looks like this nonsense is on its way to concluding soonish. Not only are the States certifying their results, but the GSA has informed Biden's team that they'd (finally) begin the transition process. Emily Murphy really, really didn't want to be questioned by the House, even skipping today. I wonder if she'll appear tomorrow for her briefing, or if the House will continue to pursue whether she does or not now. She must have secured her next job post Trump 
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Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:15 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Finally! We can start moving past this ugliness
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Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:29 pm |
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22214 Location: Places
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The states finalizing the results are the end.
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Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:33 pm |
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stuffp
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Joined: Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:06 am Posts: 11647 Location: Bright Falls
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Trump was just as arrogant in 2020 as Hillary was in 2016, where Hillary didn't campaign well enough in swing states before the election, Trump neglected to collect evidence of voter fraud while it was being committed because he thought he would win anyway and is left with rampantly trying to make up evidence he's not able to back up.
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Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:10 pm |
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Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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We got the closest thing to a concession we’re gonna get from Trump on Twitter tonight after GSA officially started the transition process.
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Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:52 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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My biggest hope is that things will just CALM DOWN, and politics becomes what you see on C-SPAN again, not some bad reality TV show mess on TLC.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:57 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
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The dog that isn't barking right now is Bill Barr. Ghost since the election. Two scenarios
a) Like the establishment GOP right now he wants Trump out
b) He has been the real key to the voter fraud operation the last 3 weeks while Giuliani and Powell's role has been to distract the Democrats and media
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Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:20 pm |
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Alex Y.
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What are you guys’ thoughts about the Patriot Act?
I had not realized this until I just read about this in r/LockdownSkepticism, but The Patriot Act has not been renewed yet after earlier this year Trump discouraged GOP from renewing it and threatened to veto any renewal. Meanwhile, Joe Biden has tried to take credit for writing the Patriot Act over the years and is a strong proponent.
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