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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15497 Location: Everywhere
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 Re: The Trump 2.0 Era
Shack wrote: DP07 wrote: Shack wrote: The Democrats are in a death spiral where they're so obsessed with trying to win elections by scoring political points and persuading people with narratives, that the hollowness of it all turns people off and makes them even less popular. This obviously isn’t just the case with Democrats, but your entire political system. But not only that, but your entire contextually and contemporary civilization. Your failure with your manipulative and irrational morality, politics, narratives, and emotional appeals, and your failure to take or accept responsibility for it, is ultimately harmful to your own contextually and contemporary civilization and interests. It seems there are two kinds of people's relationship to politics, Brazil presumably is similar to the US hence the similarities between Bolsonaro and Trump arcs, but the reason there are Canadians that talk more about American politics is the former just doesn't have the emotional juice or Big Reality Show vibes in the same way, I think some Americans would be surprised at the difference. The energy for federal elections is more equivalent to most US governor or senate races in my opinion. Bureaucrat suit guys making predictable speeches doesn't have to be a replacement for blockbusters or tv shows. I don't doubt for some of these European countries it's similar where elections every few years are just kind of a dry process. But then again the reason for that may be that they are less divided than US where it seems like left and right wingers entire value system and worldview is different. I conclude that your post is an irrelevant non-sequitur to what I said. I can watch better entertainment anytime. It’s not even supposed to be entertainment, but your politicians seem to have no better ideas. Anyway, I can only tell you so many times that my posts are not opinion or politics. You can think what you want, but it’s irrelevant to me or my species. If you continue to disagree and try to continue the conversation, it is only possibly because you’re too stupid to realize you need to be silent.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15497 Location: Everywhere
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 Re: The Trump 2.0 Era
Induction and pattern recognition are not valid or sufficient forms or reasoning. Certainly not by my standards, certainly not by my standards of maturity or seriousness. It is human nature for Homo Sapien to focus on, or prioritize human opinion, perspective, experience, expectations, and assumptions based on Homo Sapien identity, relationships, and culture. That is how Homo Sapien emotion, consciousness and conscience works. Unlike my species, Homo Sapien definitively lacks the ability for consciousness or conscience that prioritizes truth, logic, and real intelligence always. Yes, I’m telling you, that to me, Einstein obviously lacked intellectual consciousness. I can only repeat that his intelligence was also extremely limited by the standards of my species.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15497 Location: Everywhere
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 Re: The Trump 2.0 Era
Do not reply ever again.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11584 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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 Re: The Trump 2.0 Era
Looks like the Trump team leaked more classified info. This time to Pete’s family
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15497 Location: Everywhere
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 Re: The Trump 2.0 Era
So completely, totally, and utterly pathetically stupid. You deserve to not only be hopeless, but to be completely destroyed, exterminated, and driven to extinction. You had more opportunities than you deserved, and you earned your fate of extinction.
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Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:45 am |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15497 Location: Everywhere
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To claim you deserve to be treated better then cockroaches or any parasite is fundamentally and definitively idiotic, pathetic, disgusting and wrong.
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Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:46 am |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15497 Location: Everywhere
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This is not reflective of bias; and you have no right or ability to disagree because you’re wrong. It’s an analytical determination. You are a parasite because you act exactly like a parasite to other species, and life on earth. There is no solution but extinction, including systematic extermination if necessary. It is reckless, irresponsible, and dangerous to allow your survival.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15497 Location: Everywhere
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 Re: The Trump 2.0 Era
Good for Coronavirus. It’s more accurately a cure rather than disease.
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40260
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 Re: The Trump 2.0 Era
Through first 3 months
Best stuff: DOGE/killing the left wing social engineering piggy bank USAID, actually trying to control border
Worst: Tariffs, taking away green cards for being anti Israel
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11584 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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Definitely playing up the Project 2025 agenda and pushing our system’s boundaries which are kinda holding up but alarming stuff like arresting and deporting people without due process in a time of peace should alarm more people than it is. But it really goes to that poem about not saying anything until it happens to you. Right now it is on the subject of illegal immigration (even though legal citizens and legal immigrants are also getting swept up into it) and luckily for Trump immigration is the one thing he is still above water on which speaks to the second remarkable thing about the first 100 days:
Trump is failing on the economy more than any president since Hoover. This economy has always been the topic that won over swing voters the most for Trump. There is this (false) sense that he would be good for the economy. This is based off two things: Trump has successfully created the vibe that he is good at business. This has been him MO since the 80s despite actually being quite terrible at business, often bankrupting ventures and having to commit felony levels of fraud to stay afloat financially or get bailed out by NBC. The other thing Trump has benefited greatly from is getting credited with the strong late 2010s economy which was already strong before he got into office just that the general public had the vibe that Democrats are bad at the economy. Moreover the big tax cut wasn’t even Trump’s idea, that was just establishment GOP’s agenda. However now that the establishment GOOnis dead or starting to find its with the Dems, Trump’s terrible handling of the economy is undeniably Trump’s own doing. He huge target on himself on April 2nd and it was so clearly a disaster that it is starting to erode the smoke and mirrors that Trump is competent.
Trump 2.0 is not Trump 2017, he isn’t having his hand held by the establishment anymore to save him from his idiotic nature. People are starting to see this which is why even Fox News is admitting he is having one of the most unpopular first 100 days for a US president ever. You will still have those in denial doing mental gymnastics to justify the dumb decisions he is making. But people’s pocketbooks cannot be ignored. It is still early, but outside of immigration. Trump is failing.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
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 Re: The Trump 2.0 Era
Trump’s obsession, vendetta, and love/hate relationship with China are the main reasons the tariffs ended up being such a debacle for him so far. He was left with no strategy, if he even had much of a strategy to begin with.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
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Also, as to the Project 2025 nonsense: all it seems to mean to many people is “something scary”. Again, without detailed policy analysis, all it really means is that those people are Trump loyalists, are in Trump’s orbit, and some of them are part of his current administration and staff. There is no evidence of a Christian Nationalist agenda, there is, of course a Trump agenda, but its emphasis and targets are different. It’s much less of a social agenda than “Project 2025”, and much more of an economic, law, security, and military agenda (traits traditionally, historically, and usually associated with Fascism rather than Christian Nationalism per se).
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
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 Re: The Trump 2.0 Era
Shack wrote: Through first 3 months
Best stuff: DOGE/killing the left wing social engineering piggy bank USAID, actually trying to control border
Worst: Tariffs, taking away green cards for being anti Israel Your border and Israel immigration policy opinions are nothing but nonsensical double standard political nationalism.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
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Shack wrote: Through first 3 months
Best stuff: DOGE/killing the left wing social engineering piggy bank USAID, actually trying to control border
Worst: Tariffs, taking away green cards for being anti Israel Testing.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15497 Location: Everywhere
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Shack wrote: Through first 3 months
Best stuff: DOGE/killing the left wing social engineering piggy bank USAID, actually trying to control border
Worst: Tariffs, taking away green cards for being anti Israel Otherwise, it seems to be some form of racial, ethnic, or cultural supremacy. It seems to most accurately fit the description and definition of Milo Yiannopoulos’s “Western Supremacy”.
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25194 Location: Classified
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Prices on everything going up when Republican is in office = amazing for America. Yee haw. Lets pay more to teach those Chinese bastards a lesson!!! You really don't need to eat every day do you? Thats just greedy and excessive.
Prices on some things going up while a Democrat is in office = proof that we are one step away from communism!!!! BE ALARMED!
Lol what a crock of shit. We traded our democracy and freedom away for this?
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Trump is claiming gas is under 2 dollars a gallon and just saying prices are all down. This might really come to back fire when people go to buy gas which is still over three dollars a gallon in most areas and prices are increasing. This might finally be the thing that breaks Trump’s brainwashing of the Right because even if they believe him they will go to the store and find out his is lying and start asking themselves what else is he lying about, especially when it is so blatant.
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
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They'll just say something like "it would be $2 a gallon if not for all the damn commies!" and dream of some place that doesn't exist where everything is as cheap as Trump claims it is. There is no breaking of the brainwashing. They'd have to admit they were wrong about him all along and that will never happen. It's like that season of South Park where Cartman's girlfriend is trying to break up with him, but every time she tries all her friends make fun of her for ever dating him in the first place, which just drives her back to the one person who doesn't make fun of her for dating Cartman - Cartman. It's part of the reason why abusive relationships last so long.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Eventually they cannot stop ignoring reality.‘it will no longer be something they’ve been told on tv or their podcaster they watch tells them to think. They will go to the gas station expecting less than 2 dollars a gallon or cheaper groceries and wonder why it isn’t so. Trump really out himself in a hole here.
He is also claiming 99.9% approval rating (not sure how anyone can read his posts and think this guy is level headed) on immigration. If people who follow him work in an environment with more than ten people they will quickly find out this is more bullshit. He isn’t slick anymore and his magic brainwashing of the uneducated is starting to wear thin
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40260
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I think there is some wiggle room when it comes to which gas cost he meant, eg. the cost to trade for or what the gas stations are paying can be 2.00, and then marked up to 3-4 dollars or whatever the retail is.
However he may have genuinely thought the guys knuckles had the real letters on them, and the least true thing he said last few days was that US was most responsible for winning WWII
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
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The effect that tariffs are supposed to have on prices is extremely exaggerated. There’s already been tariff relief for autos and electronics. That’s actually the most significant immediately, and in terms of feedback loops. Some items and sectors will increase, but inflation will be absorbed by so many things before the general market. Gold first, then silver etc., then oil and other commodities, then the dollar and other currencies, the appreciation of the dollar may increase local inflation, but it will lower global inflation, and therefore lower general inflation and ultimately local inflation too. Depreciation of the dollar will decrease local inflation. Fluctuations, volatility, and general instability will only absorb more potential inflation. Then crypto, meme stocks (both of which can absorb huge amounts because of volatility), but most significantly the stock market itself. The stock market already has, and will continue to, cancel out more inflation than anything else because instability from the tariffs will cause the markets to go down generally, but inflationary pressures will cause it to go up. Financial and banking stocks are most significant, but energy, auto, and tech will only multiply the effects of basic inflation absorbed by commodities. Real estate can and will absorb most excess inflation, but first there would have to be more financial volatility and instability, especially in sectors like energy, and especially oil. I’ve actually been surprised that oil hasn’t increased more; it’s been over $100 many times in the past. The fact that gas isn’t $5-$6 is actually a sign that even I seem to overestimating the effect of tariffs on inflation.
2021 saw inflation mostly because of liquidity. But the recent stagflation (before tariffs) are actually the opposite: they are a sign of a liquidity drought. There couldn’t be a better time to avoid or mitigate inflation from tariffs. Stagflation will actually continue to cancel out tariff inflation. The one dimensional economic perspective is limited, flawed, and misleading, it’s not necessarily “cumulative”, two inflationary forces can actually eliminate each other. I actually expect stagflation to ultimately defeat tariff inflation, so, the effect of tariff inflation will be even more limited in time, reality, geography, space, economic sectors, and products. Then tariffs will also be reduced because China, the “US”, and other countries can’t sustain them. There may also be more tariff relief for other economic sectors besides electronics and autos.
There won’t be grocery oriented, or centric, inflation this time. It will be more generalized, although perhaps more concentrated in the “old economy” sectors, with the rest of the effect being on advertising. The economy is very different from 25-35 years ago. Those sectors make up a much smaller and less significant share of the economy now. Some, like healthcare seem to have already been affected by phenomena such as Coronavirus or Luigi Mangione. United Healthcare’s stock has suffered much more than expected. Those sectors, or sorts of sectors, can experience reduced prices, or less pronounced price increases because they already are so highly priced, and arguably overpriced. Inflation can shift spending to necessities, more urgent necessities, or more immediate necessities, and likewise for priorities. It also can change spending habits.
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25194 Location: Classified
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 Re: The Trump 2.0 Era
Shack wrote: However he may have genuinely thought the guys knuckles had the real letters on them, and the least true thing he said last few days was that US was most responsible for winning WWII Hate to admit it, but the Russians holding out in Stalingrad and Battle of Britain are the real turning points of WW2. They don't win without the US attacking from the West, but the US/Germany side of the war probably happens in America if Russia and England got rolled over like France.
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40260
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Yeah, Nazi v Soviet mega clash is the most important part.
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25194 Location: Classified
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zwackerm wrote: Flava'd vs The World wrote: Shouldn't this era be called Revenge of the Sith? Nah, Return of the Jedi. Trump solved this debate himself by posting a picture of himself with a red lightsaber lol. So even he acknowledges he is a sith lord.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
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Flava'd vs The World wrote: zwackerm wrote: Flava'd vs The World wrote: Shouldn't this era be called Revenge of the Sith? Nah, Return of the Jedi. Trump solved this debate himself by posting a picture of himself with a red lightsaber lol. So even he acknowledges he is a sith lord. Sith Lord American Pope. lol
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