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Darth Indiana Bond
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 Re: Cancellation/race/trans/etc. thread
I agree with Algren. Unfortunately, people will find other things to aim their anger at such as video games, Hollywood, liberals being soft on crime, transphobia, the lack of guns, anything but our lax gun laws.
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Shack
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 Re: Cancellation/race/trans/etc. thread
Libs wrote: Shack wrote: The idea that a hispanic guy who killed a bunch of white people was motivated by white supremacy is obviously pretty ridiculous.
It's worth noting that, among the 8 victims, 3 were members of a Korean American family (parents and son, their other son survived but is seriously injured), 2 were elementary school age Hispanic sisters, 1 was a Hispanic man, 1 was an Indian American woman. I believe only 1 victim was white. So I don't know what his true motive was but you're also not arguing in good faith. That was a mistake, it doesn't change that much of what I was saying though. Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Shack wrote: I know exactly who the little fascist club is on right wing social media and imo they're motivated by masculinity more than race. Their leader is a guy named Bronze Age Pervert who wrote a manifesto a few years ago with a bunch of wannabe Nietzeche nonsense comparing men to animal kingdom. The trans debate is more relevant to them than BLM, because it fits in with their views that animal male essence is being cucked while they advocate a return to chiseled chads and traditional female roles. Someone like this shooter being motivated by this would make sense, but the insistence to keep compared people to Hitler style nazi-ism and to keep trying to make everything about race distracts from discussions about this. Okay, but you understand the problem then as well. How do you address this? In my opinion the best way to beat bad ideas is for them to be publicly aired out and have their flaws exposed logically, rather than censored. When it comes to the right wing guys I described it might be too fringe to really make people care at the moment, but one thing we can do is reject the actually popular and mainstream bad idea (wokeism), which also has the side benefit of probably weakening the masculinity fascist type guys as well, since it's clear a big part of their existence is as a response to the far left. Much as how the nazis clearly benefitted from communism existing.
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Shack
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 Re: Cancellation/race/trans/etc. thread
Well it looks like the neo nazi hispanic thing might have legs, I'll admit I got that one wrong and assumed BS too fast after years of everything is racist journalism. It looks like this is a perfect candidate for people to make their guns or right wingers are nazis takeaway from it, whereas ones like Audrey Hale or the Waukesha guy were were the least ideal candidates.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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But I think that means it bypasses all ideologies.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Strange World has been cancelled
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Algren
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I didn't really know where to post this but thought this thread is as good as any. I found him really funny and fresh.
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stuffp
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That's exactly what stand up should be like, pretty funny indeed.
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Shack
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Hannah Gadsby is getting cancelled for not cancelling Picasso the right way
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Algren
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That's the thing with the extreme left cancellations; you can never be pure enough. If you're not caught in the first round of cancellations, you'll be caught in the second or third or fourth or fifth whether you're "guilty" or not, whether you're on the right or not ... everyone has a target on them. It was never anything to do with your crime, it was always about their need for a witch hunt. It is history repeating itself as the exact same thing happened in China's Cultural Revolution. It is a shame that the west, with their wisdom and studying of history, is going through a similar situation (albeit not to the extreme, obviously). The outcomes are different, but the ideology is the same. People's careers are ruined instead of people being shot in the back of the head in a field outside of town, but it's the same disgusting attitudes at play. The only saving grace is that it's not widespread and supported by the government, so I guess there has been things learned. Pray to whoever that an AOC type doesn't ever have any credible power because she's just like these witch hunt types.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Ironically it is the right wing government who actually practices cancel culture
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Shack
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It's definitely closer to meeting in the middle with how prudish each side is, with right wingers having moral panic over trans/drag queens impact on kids, and it's obvious that the extreme left wing moralization is less hot on social media now than a few years ago. The woke thing got so mainstream/corporate that inevitably the hipsters get turned off, deep down they don't want to be on the same side as Bud Light and the normies in the suburbs with BLM sign on their lawn and non binary 12 year old.
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Flava'd vs The World
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Modern "art" is what should be cancelled.
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Rev
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Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Ironically it is the right wing government who actually practices cancel culture
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Alex Y.
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Target being cancelled by extremists on both sides, the moderates have somewhere to go to shop where it can avoid both groups
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Flava'd vs The World
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Roseanne must be back on the ambien as she went off on a rant about how the holocaust didn't happen among other things.
Right-wing celebrities are so predictable lol.
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As bad as her saying the holocaust didn't happen is... that can at least be dismissed as a conspiracy theory and such. But her saying that 6 million Jews SHOULD DIE TODAY because they cause every problem in the world is just insane.
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Shack
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Was definitely just being ironic, though using the Holocaust as her 2nd example was kind of a weird leap
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Shack
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Kevin Spacey redemption tour?
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Flava'd vs The World
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Casey Affleck is already back. I think its about time for Spacey to return too. He will just have to play villains for a little awhile.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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When has Kevin Spacey not been the villain?
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Flava'd vs The World
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KPax?
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Flava'd vs The World
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Wouldn't have ever expected to type Lizzo's name in this thread .
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Rev
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Flava'd vs The World wrote: Wouldn't have ever expected to type Lizzo's name in this thread . Yah it’s wild!
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Shack
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*Lizzo hits backup dancers with steel chair!*
"My god, no! What has gotten into this woman!"
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Algren
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Shack wrote: "My god, no! What has gotten into this woman!" A lot of food.
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