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Mannyisthebest
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I am certain Hilary Clinton would be facing the same criticism anyways.
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A. G.
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Yes I'm sure Hillary would face a similar criticism because she has a similar blindspot. It was laughably awful that Hillary was staying at the Bellagio while losing the campaign. It's a combination of demonstrating lack of money smarts mixed with a sense of entitlement that rubs people the wrong way. I doubt Sebelius or McCaskill would have to worry about that kind of criticism though because they aren't that dumb. Quote: your country is burning and your concerned about the fashion of a Milf... Oh go back in your cave. You have demonstrated over recent months that you know very little about America or its politics.
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Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:22 pm |
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Beeblebrox
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Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:40 pm Posts: 4679
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MonyTontana wrote: its nice how it seems like yo udidn't even bother reading someone's post and stuck to only those points that somehow allow you to retort back Your point is about double-standards for women. This mini-scandal isn't even remotely about that. Yes, women spend more for clothes. That does NOT mean that they spend $150K in six weeks, which is why I brought up Hillary and Michelle for a fair comparison.
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Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:50 pm |
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bABA
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Beeblebrox wrote: MonyTontana wrote: its nice how it seems like yo udidn't even bother reading someone's post and stuck to only those points that somehow allow you to retort back Your point is about double-standards for women. This mini-scandal isn't even remotely about that. Yes, women spend more for clothes. That does NOT mean that they spend $150K in six weeks, which is why I brought up Hillary and Michelle for a fair comparison. my reply was to the sexist video you posted, not the entirety of the thread. you missed that you mentioned the 150K. that too was addressed in my post. like i said, you fail to read what you don't wish to read and proceed to argue what you can based upon a set agenda.
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Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:08 pm |
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Mannyisthebest
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Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 3:53 pm Posts: 8642 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Quote: your country is burning and your concerned about the fashion of a Milf... Oh go back in your cave. You have demonstrated over recent months that you know very little about America or its politics. No, I will stand from my own white castle and laugh at you poor souls... 
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Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:16 pm |
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Beeblebrox
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MonyTontana wrote: my reply was to the sexist video you posted, not the entirety of the thread. you missed that Actually I didn't. I've said twice now that the pressure for women to look good does not justify $150K. I'm not denying that there is sexism. But Fox News was using that as an excuse, which is ludicrous. Quote: you fail to read what you don't wish to read and proceed to argue what you can based upon a set agenda. Pot meet kettle.
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Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:59 pm |
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bABA
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Beeblebrox wrote: MonyTontana wrote: my reply was to the sexist video you posted, not the entirety of the thread. you missed that Actually I didn't. I've said twice now that the pressure for women to look good does not justify $150K. I'm not denying that there is sexism. But Fox News was using that as an excuse, which is ludicrous. Quote: you fail to read what you don't wish to read and proceed to argue what you can based upon a set agenda. Pot meet kettle. and i guess for the 3rd time, you refused to actually read the post. you quoted one paragraph of mine, started yup wit hthe whole 150K and started asking me a dumb question like if my wife spends something like that ... a reply i had given twice in the paragraphs you managed not to quote at all. so do the pot meet kettle routine all you want but at least in times when you're not making much sense, either back away and stop acknowledging or quit with the 'i need to win every conversation at all cost' routine. your reply to my post was completely irrelevant as your questionw as already addressed .. not once ... but twice.
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Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:46 am |
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Beeblebrox
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MonyTontana wrote: and i guess for the 3rd time, you refused to actually read the post. you quoted one paragraph of mine, Kind of like YOU did: "my reply was to the sexist video you posted, not the entirety of the thread." I wasn't replying to the entirety of your post. I was responding to the general point that women are required to spend more on clothes because of sexism. My question about your wife was rhetorical, since I'd assume she didn't spend that much whether you had stated so or not. This bickering is kind of pointless. I was actually agreeing with you generally, so the one arguing just to argue here is you. MY point is that regardless of sexism, there is no justification for spending that much money on clothes when your campaign is already short on funds and after you've tried to paint your opponent as an out-of-touch elitist. Please let me know which part of that you disagree with.
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Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:34 am |
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gardenia.11/14....
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dolcevita wrote: kypade wrote: She's been in the spotlight for something like 60 days. That's like, 2.5 thousand per day.
I promise you that she could buy two brand new outfits every day that no one could possibly criticize for less than half that. She had to dress the family up, too, and she's got a damn big family seeing as how she doesn't believe in Planned Parenthood. Really, 2.5 thousand a day if it means 1.25 thousand per outfit (if you are getting two a day and not counting haircuts, makeup, etc.). That's pretty normal if an outfit requires pants/skirt, blouse/tip, jacket, shoes, some accessories like earrings or a necklace. Hell, most of my crappy jeans cost more than two hundred dollars. I could easily see pants for national tv being 3-400, a blouse being 2-300 and a button-down jacket being 3-400. Then, earrings around 200 and shoes around 200. Now its getting cold and you have to have nice looking winter jackets, too. You people really think that your debut on the national stage is the time to start counting pennies? Media impressions are everything, and I still do not find 150k to be all too shocking. Wow.. I agree so much.. it's on the scale.. After all, I'll pay for art. 
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STEVE ROGERS
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I didn't even bother reading the replies to this subject, but I'll tell ya this much: I GUARANTEE that Barrack Obama's suits probably cost a pretty penny to as well as Joe Biden and you don't hear shit about this.. In the end, your in the public eye 100% of the time and you have to look good.. This is really grasping and reaching to yet, find just 1 more thing for people to put this woman down.. It's become laughable at this point.. Who cares how much Sarah Palin spent on her clothing?? How much do you think Oprah Winbag spends on her wardrope?? Jesus..
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Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:01 am |
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bABA
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Beeblebrox wrote: MonyTontana wrote: and i guess for the 3rd time, you refused to actually read the post. you quoted one paragraph of mine, Kind of like YOU did: "my reply was to the sexist video you posted, not the entirety of the thread." You're not serious right? Like really? Honestly? You're really going to go down this path? You're more McCainish and Republican than i thought. You posted a video, i replied to it. I replied to the video. I didn't even reply to any comments you were making. I posted some cmoments in light of a video. I posted both, my support for her comments and my continuing disdain on how a 150K shopping spree is still beyond me.
I still don't quite understand why you felt some need to bring up a question asking me how i felt if my wife did something like that considering i answered that part twice in that same post. I don't know about you but if someone says "i think that car is red,' i dont quickly reply back with a 'but don't you think that car is red!?!?'
I wasn't replying to the entirety of your post. I was responding to the general point that women are required to spend more on clothes because of sexism. My question about your wife was rhetorical, since I'd assume she didn't spend that much whether you had stated so or not.This bickering is kind of pointless. I was actually agreeing with you generally, so the one arguing just to argue here is you. a) If you agreed with me in the first place, if you've already stated that women need to spend more, if you already mentioned 150K is excessive, and if i replied with my own personal opinion on the video bearing nothing on your comments .... do you see where i'm going with this? You started and questioned me the first time. i didn't start this debate. i'm sitting here wondering why someone who agrees with me is somehow asking me to explain myself when i've already done it. now you're saying the question is rhetoric yet you've gone on replying back to me repeatedly without even bringing that up once, even though on 2 occasions before this, i explained or refered you back. you continued to feel the need to reply back. i'm not here to win an argument. every reply, all i've stated is 'dude, answered your question. what are you trying to get to'. so i'm sorry but as the person being asked a question that is rhetoric or not (on a board, i dont quite have the liberty to guess when one is), i don't see how I"M THE ONE continuing on an argument. MY point is that regardless of sexism, there is no justification for spending that much money on clothes when your campaign is already short on funds and after you've tried to paint your opponent as an out-of-touch elitist. Please let me know which part of that you disagree with. I had no disagreements to begin with. i've already stated that i responded to a video. i never even took any of your comments and tried to insinuate you felt otherwise. the only one who took someone's response and then questioned them further on it here is you.
like you said, if this is pointless, its pointless. i'm not here to continue this on. we both know where we stand on this and we happen to agree. lets move on.
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Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:52 am |
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Beeblebrox
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MonyTontana wrote: i'm sitting here wondering why someone who agrees with me is somehow asking me to explain myself when i've already done it. Again, my question was rhetorical, not asking you to explain yourself. Sorry if it came out the wrong way. We are in agreement.
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Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:54 pm |
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Groucho
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MR. GREEN wrote: I didn't even bother reading the replies to this subject, but I'll tell ya this much: I GUARANTEE that Barrack Obama's suits probably cost a pretty penny to as well as Joe Biden and you don't hear shit about this.. In the end, your in the public eye 100% of the time and you have to look good.. This is really grasping and reaching to yet, find just 1 more thing for people to put this woman down.. It's become laughable at this point.. Who cares how much Sarah Palin spent on her clothing?? How much do you think Oprah Winbag spends on her wardrope?? Jesus.. Maybe, you know, you SHOULD read the post before commenting, because then you won't sound so stupid since we've already discussed these points. Here's why this is objectionable: 1. She claims to be just another hockey mom but shows every signs of being an elitist that she accuses others of being. It's the hypocricy, stupid. 2. She didn't pay for this out of her own money, like Obama and Biden do with their own wardrobe, no matter how expensive. Republicans who gave their hard earned money to see McCain elected can't be happy that the GOP decided it was more important to give that money to Palin's wardrobe buyer instead of helping get McCain and other GOP candidates elected. (In fact, it has now been shown that McCain's highest paid consultant is Palin's make-up person).
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Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:11 pm |
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Beeblebrox
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Btw, that lipstick on the pitbull? $22,000 the first two weeks of October alone.
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Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:19 pm |
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bABA
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Beeblebrox wrote: MonyTontana wrote: i'm sitting here wondering why someone who agrees with me is somehow asking me to explain myself when i've already done it. Again, my question was rhetorical, not asking you to explain yourself. Sorry if it came out the wrong way. We are in agreement. fair enough. sorry for the inconvenience.
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Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:16 pm |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:02 am Posts: 18501
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Groucho wrote: MR. GREEN wrote: I didn't even bother reading the replies to this subject, but I'll tell ya this much: I GUARANTEE that Barrack Obama's suits probably cost a pretty penny to as well as Joe Biden and you don't hear shit about this.. In the end, your in the public eye 100% of the time and you have to look good.. This is really grasping and reaching to yet, find just 1 more thing for people to put this woman down.. It's become laughable at this point.. Who cares how much Sarah Palin spent on her clothing?? How much do you think Oprah Winbag spends on her wardrope?? Jesus.. Maybe, you know, you SHOULD read the post before commenting, because then you won't sound so stupid since we've already discussed these points. Here's why this is objectionable: 1. She claims to be just another hockey mom but shows every signs of being an elitist that she accuses others of being. It's the hypocricy, stupid. 2. She didn't pay for this out of her own money, like Obama and Biden do with their own wardrobe, no matter how expensive. Republicans who gave their hard earned money to see McCain elected can't be happy that the GOP decided it was more important to give that money to Palin's wardrobe buyer instead of helping get McCain and other GOP candidates elected. (In fact, it has now been shown that McCain's highest paid consultant is Palin's make-up person). http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,443905,00.htmlHANNITY: Well, let's talk about some the attacks. For example, people have attacked  all right. The RNC spent $150,000 on clothes. That's been an issue that's come up lately, and another issue, as well, the travel account for your family has been, I guess, billed to the state of Alaska.
PALIN: I'm glad that you brought up both of those. First, the RNC spending money on clothes. Those clothes are not my property. We had three days of using clothes that the RNC purchased.
If people knew how Todd and I and our kids shop so frugally. My favorite shop is a consignment shop in Anchorage, Alaska, called Out of the Closet. And my shoe store is called Shoe Fly in Juneau, Alaska.
HANNITY: Yes.
PALIN: It's not  you know, it's not Fifth Avenue type of shopping. But RNC purchasing some clothes that are all going  they are either returned or they're going to charity. It's not my property.
HANNITY: I heard they might be put up for auction, too.
PALIN: I think that they should be. And I think charitable organizations should be the recipients.Dumbass, she was on FOX news being interviewed today and stated that the RNC purchases these clothes for her to wear and that there not even her clothes.. Christ, the woman claims to shop at a 3rd rate type of clothing store for her and her family.. I suppose if Obama had been accused of wearing expensive clothes, no one would say shit about it, right?? Here's the link and interview you dope.. Watch the news more often if you claim to be a lawyer like you do..
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