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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:02 am Posts: 18501
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 This Election Is Being Stolen Due To The Voting Process
The idea that many are being allowed to vote early prior to Nov 4th is going to cause some serious, SERIOUS problems and as a result, they shouldn't allow this and should stick to the way it's always been, excluding if your in the military and require an absentee ballot.. From the looks of things right now, you can sure bet that come Nov 4th, there will be accusations of the election being stolen and it's obvious the media wants Obama as President, that there willing to go this route to ensure this happens and it isn't right.. Now we all pretty well know that more than likely Obama will be the next President unless there's some scandal of epic proportions on the part of Obama that causes him to lose, but at least they should stick to the voting process the way it has been and not allow people to vote early like what's occurring right now.. It's just not right..
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:56 am |
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A. G.
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 Re: This Election Is Being Stolen Due To The Voting Process
Write your congressman about it if it bothers you that bad.
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:31 am |
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getluv
i break the rules, so i don't care
Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 4:28 pm Posts: 20411
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 Re: This Election Is Being Stolen Due To The Voting Process
BKB what if you were had open-heart surgery planned on the 4th and weren't likely to make it to a polling booth? what if your 1 vote decided the election. wouldn't you want the chance to vote before hand?
this process is observed all over the world.
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:35 am |
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kypade
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Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 10:53 pm Posts: 7908
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I dont think he understands what early voting means.
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:02 am |
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32635 Location: the last free city
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Archie Gates wrote: Write your congressman about it if it bothers you that bad.
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:16 am |
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Groucho
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:30 pm Posts: 12096 Location: Stroudsburg, PA
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 Re: This Election Is Being Stolen Due To The Voting Process
How much do you think this fraud is? 1% even? One out of every 100?
In 2004, about 120,000,000 people voted. I'm sure we'll get more than that this year.
But let's assume for the sake of argument that it's the same amount, and that 5% of the vote was fraudulent. That means something like 6 million votes would be false, or basically every single vote in the entire state of New York that was cast in the last election, and more than just about every single state has ever cast.
Even then, with Obama more than 12 points ahead of McCain, it wouldn't make a difference.
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:10 pm |
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Timayd
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 Re: This Election Is Being Stolen Due To The Voting Process
BKB didn't know that early voting was just a standard absentee ballot. I can understand why he'd be angry with that misconception.
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:26 pm |
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Beeblebrox
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Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:40 pm Posts: 4679
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 Re: This Election Is Being Stolen Due To The Voting Process
Timayd wrote: I can understand why he'd be angry with that misconception. Angry misconceptions is kind of a running theme among McCain supporters these days. 3 minutes left on the clock is a little late in the game to start complaining about well established rules just because your team is losing.
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:14 pm |
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snack
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Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:18 pm Posts: 12159
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that's right bkb, damn that democracy!
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:44 pm |
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Caius
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Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm Posts: 4767
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 Re: This Election Is Being Stolen Due To The Voting Process
MR. GREEN wrote: they shouldn't allow this and should stick to the way it's always been (internal boldness and [..] (whatever that is) removed). You're wrong on this. Many states, like Oregon and Washington, have let voters vote absentee for years --and that's a good thing.
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:55 pm |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:02 am Posts: 18501
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 Re: This Election Is Being Stolen Due To The Voting Process
getluv wrote: BKB what if you were had open-heart surgery planned on the 4th and weren't likely to make it to a polling booth? what if your 1 vote decided the election. wouldn't you want the chance to vote before hand?
this process is observed all over the world. Problem is is that alot of people are registering ficticious names in an effort to put Obama over and you folks know it.. In a case like you mentioned about having surgery on the 4th?? Then YES, I believe in an absentee ballot that way, but this crap that's being pulled right now with people registering fake names is BS and will blow up big time come Nov 4th.. Your going to hear more about this as the day comes closer.. It isn't right..
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:15 am |
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getluv
i break the rules, so i don't care
Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 4:28 pm Posts: 20411
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but aren't both sides capable of pulling the same stunt.
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:24 am |
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32635 Location: the last free city
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getluv wrote: but aren't both sides capable of pulling the same stunt. naw, republicans would never do that. they're the party of Jesus.
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:26 am |
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Groucho
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If you go back two years there was a similar scandal on the right, in Utah I think, but it was worse because not only were false names being entered, but whenever anyone listed "democrat" on their registration form, the group collecting them threw it away.
The scandal, of course, is partially fueled when groups pay people per name, so that encourages fake names to be entered. It really doesn't affect the actual election because these fake names don't show up to vote since they don't exist.
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:46 am |
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Jedi Master Carr
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Groucho wrote: If you go back two years there was a similar scandal on the right, in Utah I think, but it was worse because not only were false names being entered, but whenever anyone listed "democrat" on their registration form, the group collecting them threw it away.
The scandal, of course, is partially fueled when groups pay people per name, so that encourages fake names to be entered. It really doesn't affect the actual election because these fake names don't show up to vote since they don't exist. This is what the Acorn scandal is about right? Are they being accused of profiting off that or something? I wondered about that because if they people didn't exist how could they even vote.
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:50 am |
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Cotton
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 Re: This Election Is Being Stolen Due To The Voting Process
MR. GREEN wrote: All this brouhaha about Obama being ahead of her in delegates, super delegates, popular vote, WHATEVER, is going to backfire big time and be remembered for quite some time when Hillary Clinton steals the Democratic Nomination over this guy causing every black person in the world to riot over it and in the end, I LOVE IT.. PS: Michelle Obama looks like an angry Black Woman ALL THE TIME and clearly doesn't fit the title of 1st Lady.. The End.. :yes: viewtopic.php?f=48&t=40530&start=0 Seems like people who "steal" elections are only bad if you don't like them.
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:29 pm |
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Beeblebrox
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Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:40 pm Posts: 4679
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 Re: This Election Is Being Stolen Due To The Voting Process
Jedi Master Carr wrote: This is what the Acorn scandal is about right? Are they being accused of profiting off that or something? I wondered about that because if they people didn't exist how could they even vote. There is a HUGE difference between voter fraud and voter registration fraud. Companies hired to sign up voters often commit voter registration fraud in order to inflate their numbers. That has NOTHING to do with voter fraud. Sorry, but Mickey Mouse may have signed up but he is not going to vote in the next election. The Republicans are conflating the two because they're desperate, and they're going to cry fraud when McCain loses as the only explanation.
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22214 Location: Places
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 Re: This Election Is Being Stolen Due To The Voting Process
Cotton wrote: MR. GREEN wrote: All this brouhaha about Obama being ahead of her in delegates, super delegates, popular vote, WHATEVER, is going to backfire big time and be remembered for quite some time when Hillary Clinton steals the Democratic Nomination over this guy causing every black person in the world to riot over it and in the end, I LOVE IT.. PS: Michelle Obama looks like an angry Black Woman ALL THE TIME and clearly doesn't fit the title of 1st Lady.. The End.. :yes: viewtopic.php?f=48&t=40530&start=0 Seems like people who "steal" elections are only bad if you don't like them. 
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:47 pm |
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Beeblebrox
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 Re: This Election Is Being Stolen Due To The Voting Process
Cotton wrote: MR. GREEN wrote: All this brouhaha about Obama being ahead of her in delegates, super delegates, popular vote, WHATEVER, is going to backfire big time and be remembered for quite some time when Hillary Clinton steals the Democratic Nomination over this guy causing every black person in the world to riot over it and in the end, I LOVE IT.. PS: Michelle Obama looks like an angry Black Woman ALL THE TIME and clearly doesn't fit the title of 1st Lady.. The End.. :yes: viewtopic.php?f=48&t=40530&start=0 Seems like people who "steal" elections are only bad if you don't like them. Stone cold busted.
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Tyler
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:55 pm Posts: 7578 Location: Torrington, CT
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Or the "rioting blacks" thing...
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Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:45 pm |
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Beeblebrox
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Well well well.
The American Civil Liberties Union is trumpeting a judge's decision in Michigan which brings to a halt the practice of eliminating voters from rolls if their mailing address is found to be invalid.
Recently, the GOP chairman in Macomb County, Michigan, detailed a plan to use a list of foreclosed homes to challenge voters. His pronouncement drew an immediate backlash, with predictions that the plan would "backfire."
It has.
The suit, filed by ACLU national and ACLU of Michigan, along with the Advancement Project, aimed to protect voters whose registration cards were returned to government offices by post as 'undeliverable.' Judge Stephen J. Murphy of the U.S. District Court of Michigan's Eastern District concluded that the program of eliminating these voters from rolls is in violation of federal law.
The voter purge program, better known to elections integrity experts as 'voter caging,' is a long-storied GOP tactic employed against minority, student and low-income voters. In September, the Obama campaign filed a lawsuit in Michigan challenging the illegal tactic.
"You essentially send a first-class letter to a hoursehold where you suspect that that person no longer lives there but where they're still registered to vote," explained Allen Raymond, a convicted GOP elections fraudster who spent time in prison after the discovery of a phone-jamming scheme during the 2002 elections. "That letter comes back. ... Somebody [at the local polling place] then challenges that vote if that person comes in to vote."
"This is a very significant ruling for Michigan voters," said Matthew Lund, the ACLU cooperating attorney and a partner at Pepper Hamilton LLP who argued the case, in a release. "The court recognized – and repeated several times – that the state of Michigan is conducting unlawful voter purges that clearly violate the National Voter Registration Act. Michigan voters who were removed from the voting rolls for no reason other than failure to receive their ID card in the mail will now be allowed to vote in November.â€Â
"More than 1,400 voters in that category have been disqualified so far in 2008," reports the Associated Press. "The judge says it's unclear how many cancellations actually are wrong but it's a violation of federal law. Murphy says those people shouldn't be prevented from voting if they can produce more proof of residency at the polls."
"This program has a very detrimental impact in minority, low-income and student communities across Michigan," claims an ACLU advisory. "These communities tend to be more transient and to live in multi-family housing."
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Floydboy
ha ha, charade you are
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Wow, that one right there makes me rather pissed off. That's a really low thing to do. What should it matter if they don't have their current address on file as long as they show proof of residency. I personally know plenty of people that fit into those demographics. I've moved so many times in the past 5-6 years that it's a surprise to me that I don't get mail from someone at a previous residence. I finally got a call from the Obama camp telling me that there was a rally in my area. I was really surprised seeming that I doubt either McCain or Obama would come. When I asked where it was, apparently it was somewhere in PA and they thought I still lived in Philly.
I suppose that McCain thought that he could leave Michigan and that these fools would do the rest for him.
Is this the only state where this is occuring or is it more widespread?
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Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:11 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
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 Re: This Election Is Being Stolen Due To The Voting Process
Cotton wrote: MR. GREEN wrote: All this brouhaha about Obama being ahead of her in delegates, super delegates, popular vote, WHATEVER, is going to backfire big time and be remembered for quite some time when Hillary Clinton steals the Democratic Nomination over this guy causing every black person in the world to riot over it and in the end, I LOVE IT.. PS: Michelle Obama looks like an angry Black Woman ALL THE TIME and clearly doesn't fit the title of 1st Lady.. The End.. :yes: viewtopic.php?f=48&t=40530&start=0 Seems like people who "steal" elections are only bad if you don't like them. Oh for crying out loud, if this were posted by anyone else here and was about McCain, would you expect me to say this to you, to imply this?? Just admit it: There willing to go to great lengths to make up names and addresses to swing the vote toward Obama to ensure he becomes President since this is where it's centered the most cause in the end, you know the media wants him..
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