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Anita Hussein Briem
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 Re: Evolution KidRock69x wrote: Sam wrote: evolution is always taught as a theory because that' what it is. highly accepted, but a theory nonetheless. I was taught this by Jesuits. Well the Society of Jesus has always been the more scientific of the orders. “The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of real estate they own.â€Â
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Box
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Re: Evolution Anita Hussein Briem wrote: KidRock69x wrote: Sam wrote: evolution is always taught as a theory because that' what it is. highly accepted, but a theory nonetheless. I was taught this by Jesuits. Well the Society of Jesus has always been the more scientific of the orders. “The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of real estate they own.†What? Seems like a random response. At least I hope you're not calling the Jesuits a cult. They've been among the most potent agents of progress in the history of the West. _________________In order of preference: Christian, Argos MadGez wrote: Briefs. Am used to them and boxers can get me in trouble it seems. Too much room and maybe the silkiness have created more than one awkward situation. My Box-Office Blog: http://boxofficetracker.blogspot.com/
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Re: Evolution Beeblebrox wrote: That article is from 1998. Here's an article from 2005 about a Rice University survey: http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/ ... s_god.htmlAbout two-thirds of scientists believe in God, according to a new survey that uncovered stark differences based on the type of research they do.
The study, along with another one released in June, would appear to debunk the oft-held notion that science is incompatible with religion.
Nearly 38 percent of natural scientists -- people in disciplines like physics, chemistry and biology -- said they do not believe in God. Only 31 percent of the social scientists do not believe.
Some stand-out stats: 41 percent of the biologists don't believe, while that figure is just 27 percent among political scientists.Since when are "political scientists" considered "scientists"? That term always bugged me anyway, and I have a BA in political Science! _________________Buy my books! http://michaelaventrella.com
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Box
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Re: Evolution The term science historically had a broader definition than the current narrow one. There's nothing wrong with "political science".
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Krem
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Re: Evolution Box wrote: There's nothing wrong with "political science". Except for the fact that it's boring as hell. I took one Poli Sci class in college - International Relations. We discussed Realism versus Liberalism ad nauseam. Riveting.
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Re: Evolution Eh, you can't judge an entire discipline by one course. Even a dull professor can make a great topic boring.
I specialized in American Poli Sci, studying elections and the constitution and history and issues and all the fun stuff we talk about here.
But I certainly don't consider the study of politics as a real science -- it's not like we could do experiments and have the same results each time.
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Krem
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Re: Evolution I actually liked my prof., and he certainly made the subject matter interesting. It's just that there wasn't much to the subject itself. I liked the subjects related to Poli. Sci, though. History was always my favorite subject, and I loved studying Law (even if it was the Business variety). In fact, after taking the two Business Law classes, I considered going to Law School, until someone warned me that studying Law and practicing it were different things entirely  I agree with your assessment of the "science" aspect. It's the same thing with Economics.
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Box
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Re: Evolution _________________In order of preference: Christian, Argos MadGez wrote: Briefs. Am used to them and boxers can get me in trouble it seems. Too much room and maybe the silkiness have created more than one awkward situation. My Box-Office Blog: http://boxofficetracker.blogspot.com/
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Beeblebrox
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Re: Evolution Groucho wrote: But I certainly don't consider the study of politics as a real science -- it's not like we could do experiments and have the same results each time. One of the examples I cited was "natural sciences." 38%, or well less than half, were atheists. 41% of biologists were. And 31% of social scientists, which I agree, I would not lump in with natural scientists regarding the evolution topic. I guess I could have excised that specific line, but I don't see how it otherwise undermines the study.
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The Mr Pink
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Re: Evolution Here's a wiki article on Creationism Vs. Evolution: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation-e ... ontroversyIf you want statistics go here: http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_publi.htmIf your Ben Stein click here: http://www.expelledthemovie.com/home.phpIf you think Ben Stein is an idiot click here: http://www.expelledexposed.com/If you believe in a god or god like being hooray for you  just keep it to yourself and we'll get along just fine. I won't try and convert you to atheism as long as you don't try and convert me to your mythological superstition.
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Re: Evolution This has always been one of my favorite Doonesbury cartoons:  _________________Buy my books! http://michaelaventrella.com
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And to think that it was ultimately derived from moral philosophy 
