If Obama wasn't black ...
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true, he aint kg dark. No Country for Sam wrote: Am I the only one who doesn't consider Obama a black man really? This is why I find his and the media's race card playing very annoying. He's as white as white can get (except witrh darker skinhehe). wow ummm ok....im black so i can say this, hes not "black" cause he aint a "nigga". he doesnt dress as a gangster, talk in ebonics, or murder his friends so he's "white" 
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redfirebird2008
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loyalfromlondon wrote: He certainly isn't Black in the way Sharpton and Jackson are.
Obama is Keyes black. No, that's an incorrect way of looking at it. Obama's views are much closer to Jackson and Sharpton than Keyes. By the way, so are Hillary Clinton's views. 93% of black Democrats would vote for Hillary vs. 96% for Obama. They BOTH have views that support helping the black community, whereas Keyes is another Clarence Thomas sell-out. The only thing that is white about Obama is the fact that he's 50% white ethnically and was raised by a white mother and white grandparents after his dad abandoned him. But if we can say Clinton stands up for blacks as a white person, then we can easily say that Obama stands up for blacks as a mixed race person.
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Mr. Reynolds
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Munk·E wrote: No Country for Sam wrote: Am I the only one who doesn't consider Obama a black man really? This is why I find his and the media's race card playing very annoying. He's as white as white can get (except with darker skin hehe). Racist much? Here we go.. how is that racist?? The man is mixed. So if we're gonna talk about race, let's get it accurate. He's not white or black. He's of mixed race. Being of a mixed background, I fail to see how any one part of him can suddenly become the make or break of a person. I don't think Obama is where he is because he is half-Black, nor do I think he would be in a better place if he were fully white. It's all non-sense talk really. BUT... the reality is that people, of ALL races, do buy into this crap. So there are whites, blacks, latinos, asians, and smurfs who think he is where he is only because he's black, despite the fact that he's of mixed race. And there are whites, blacks, Latinos, asians, and smurfs who ARE supporting him because he's Black, even though he's of mixed race. Percentage of each doesn't matter because both gourps of people are retarded. While some 80 y/o Latina granny from Texas hates Obama's skin color and has thus decided to vote for another, it doesn't shed any light whatsoever as to how a 20-something first-generation lationo college grad is going to vote. I don't dislike Obama because of his skin color, his lack of "blackness," his mixed heritage, etc. I am not voting for him because I simply don't like his rhetoric. Pure and simple.
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Chippy
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But, he IS black.
You said he is NOT black.
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Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:28 pm |
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Mr. Reynolds
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Munk·E wrote: But, he IS black.
You said he is NOT black. I'm not going to argue with you if you don't understand the concept of mixed race. so...
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Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:31 pm |
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Chippy
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I understand he had a black father and a white mother.
His skin is dark. Thus, he got more of his father's genes. But he was raised by his mother, so he got her personality.
But he is black. And partially white.
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Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:34 pm |
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bullshit, oabamas 100x as charasmatic as edwards and thats throgh speaking, not skin color.
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I thought Edwards 2004 was very charismatic, I really enjoyed listening to him, even though I disagreed with a lot of his policies. Edwards 2008, not so much.
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whatever, as long as the media keeps running with this im happy. remember the last time one of her powerful allys made racist comments before a big state???
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All this discussion goes to show that we do not at the present possess a language adequate enough to account for what is becoming an increasingly different culture. The America with its traditional ideas of race is quickly giving way to something entirely different. Not to say that racism will not be an issue, but it's going to be an entirely different issue. If race is an issue with respect to Obama, then it's largely so because he signals and symbolizes more clearly than anyone or anything else a change in conceptions of race. Ultimately, it has more to do with him signaling change than him being of a particular race.
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Obama is where he is because:
(a) he is a great leader. I'm sorry, but campaigns are just as much about how well you can organize a team, plan campaign strategy, and not make mistakes along the way as it is the product you are selling. It takes a good leader to be able to do all that. Hillary's campaign has made quite a few mistakes along the way (not organizing in half the states, for instance) by comparison.
(b) he has charisma. I don't think anyone will deny this, and people who downplay this as if it is unimportant don't understand politics and, honestly, life. People with charisma get more done in life. I know some lawyers, for instance, who are absolute geniuses -- they know the law backwards and forwards -- but nobody likes them and they put juries to sleep. Charisma and the ability to inspire are tremendously important for a leader.
This is offset by his many negatives. I mean, seriously, I can imagine the following conversation taking place a few years ago between political consultants:
"OK, we have this guy who wants to run for President. He's charismatic and a great leader."
"Sounds great. Any negatives?"
"Well, yes, he's black."
"Not good. Do the names Jackson, Sharpton, and Mosely-Braun mean anything to you? I have study after study showing that his race will hurt him overall, especially in the deep south."
"Yeah, but we can overcome that. This guy's good, I tell you."
"OK, any other negatives?"
"Well, there's his name. Obama."
"What, are you kidding? No one will vote for a guy whose name sounds like a muslim terrorist. Ah well, maybe we can emphasize his first name. What's that?"
"Barack."
(long silence). "OK, I got it! We'll do like Romney and use his middle name! What is it?"
"Hussein."
(longer silence) "You're crazy. No one is going to elect a black President named Barack Hussein Obama! Give up now!"
Obama is where he is now because (a) he is a good leader; (b) he is charismatic; and (c) people in America aren't as racist as you may think.
BUT if he were a white guy named John Smith, he would be the nominee by now.
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he is black, so none of this thread matters. you can't make stuff up and pretend its not just made up...yknow?
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Eagle wrote: I thought Edwards 2004 was very charismatic, I really enjoyed listening to him, even though I disagreed with a lot of his policies. Edwards 2008, not so much. Agreed, Edwards this time around just failed to come across. Its a shame he lost to Kerry the first time around, Kerry has as much charisma as a popiscle stick.
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Groucho wrote: (b) he has charisma. I don't think anyone will deny this, and people who downplay this as if it is unimportant don't understand politics and, honestly, life. People with charisma get more done in life. I know some lawyers, for instance, who are absolute geniuses -- they know the law backwards and forwards -- but nobody likes them and they put juries to sleep. Charisma and the ability to inspire are tremendously important for a leader.
This isn't all true. The best lawyers I know and work with have gotten a ton done with almost zero charisma. John Keker- No Charisma Alan Ruby-No Charisma James Brosnahan-Definitely No Charisma Bill Price- No Charisma John Quinn-No Charisma But they know the law like you wouldn't believe and in Alan Ruby's Case he has a perfect photographic memory. Of course charismatic lawyers go a long way for making up for debate skills and knowledge or even a case. There are many lawyers who do have a ton of charisma. Anyways believe it or not Bush Jr actually has a ton of charisma and he also claimed ot work with both sides in his first election. Yes I do push away charismatics if that is all the have and that takes a lot to convince me. It took 2 tries at the presidency for Edwards to convince me he was the best candidate(he isn't running anymore unfortuantely). If Charisma is all you care about than you also had Huckabee running on the Republican side that guy is also charismatic but he would never have beat Clinton, Obmama and he didn't beat McCain who has zero Charisma himself. Note I actually think that McCain would make a good president but I can't sway my issues to him because I disagree with a lot of his world views. Nixon got a lot done despite a lack of Charisma and an over arching reach for power.
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Voting history for Senator Barack Obama of Illinois
109th Congress, 1st Session (2005) 109th Congress, 2nd Session (2006) 110th Congress, 1st Session (2007) 110th Congress, 2nd Session (2008) Roll # Date Issue Question Vote Result 442 2007-12-18 PN768 On the Nomination Confirmation John Daniel Tinder, of Indiana, to be U.S. Circuit Judge Not Voting Confirmed 441 2007-12-18 H.R. 2764 On the Motion Reid Motion to Concur in House Amdt. No. 1 to Senate Amdt. to H.R. 2764; Department of State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 2008 Not Voting Agreed To 440 2007-12-18 H.R. 2764 On the Motion Reid Motion to Concur in House Amdt. No. 1 to Senate Amdt. To H.R. 2764, with an Amdt. No. 3877; Department of State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 2008 Not Voting Rejected 439 2007-12-18 H.R. 2764 On the Motion McConnell Motion to Concur in House Amdt. No. 2 to the Senate Amdt. to H.R. 2764, with an Amdt. No. 3874; Department of State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 2008 Not Voting Agreed To 438 2007-12-18 H.R. 2764 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3876 Levin Amdt. No. 3876; To express the sense of Congress on the transition of the missions of United States Forces in Iraq to a more limited set of missions as specified by the President on September 13, 2007. Not Voting Rejected 437 2007-12-18 H.R. 2764 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3875 Feingold Amdt. No. 3875; To provide for the safe redeployment of United States troops from Iraq. Not Voting Rejected 436 2007-12-18 H.R. 2764 On the Cloture Motion Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Reid motion to Concur in the House Amdts. to the Senate Amdt. to H.R. 2764; Department of State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 2008 Not Voting Rejected 435 2007-12-17 S. 2248 On the Cloture Motion Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed to Consider S. 2248; FISA Amendments Act of 2007 Not Voting Agreed To 434 2007-12-14 H.R. 2419 On Passage of the Bill H.R. 2419 as Amended; Farm, Nutrition, and Bioenergy Act of 2007 Not Voting Passed 433 2007-12-14 H.R. 1585 On the Conference Report H.R. 1585 Conference Report; National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 Not Voting Agreed To 432 2007-12-14 S. 2338 On Passage of the Bill S. 2338 as Amended; FHA Modernization Act of 2007 Not Voting Passed 431 2007-12-13 H.R. 2419 On the Cloture Motion S.Amdt. 3500 Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Harkin Amdt. No. 3500 to H.R. 2419; In the nature of a substitute. Not Voting Agreed To 430 2007-12-13 H.R. 6 On the Motion Motion to Concur in the Amendment of the House to the Amendment of the Senate to the Text of H.R. 6, with an Amendment; Renewable Fuels, Consumer Protection, and Energy Efficiency Act of 2007 Not Voting Agreed To 429 2007-12-13 H.R. 2419 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3640 Craig Amdt. No. 3640; To prohibit the involuntary acquisition of farmland and grazing land by Federal, State, and local governments for parks, open space, or similar purposes. Not Voting Rejected 428 2007-12-13 H.R. 2419 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3819 Brown Amdt. No. 3819; To increase funding for critical Farm Bill programs and improve crop insurance. Not Voting Rejected 427 2007-12-13 H.R. 2419 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3666 Tester Amdt. No. 3666; To modify the provisions relating to unlawful practices under the Packers and Stockyards Act. Not Voting Rejected 426 2007-12-13 H.R. 2419 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3810 Klobuchar Amdt. No. 3810; To improve the adjusted gross income limitation and use the savings to provide additional funding for certain programs and reduce the Federal deficit. Not Voting Rejected 425 2007-12-13 H.R. 6 On the Cloture Motion Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Concur in the House Amendment to the Senate Amendment with an Amendment to H.R. 6; Renewable Fuels, Consumer Protection, and Energy Efficiency Act of 2007 Yes Rejected 424 2007-12-13 H.R. 2419 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3695 Dorgan Amdt. No. 3695 as Modified; To strengthen payment limitations and direct the savings to increase funding for certain programs. Yes Rejected 423 2007-12-12 H.R. 2419 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3596 Sessions Amdt. No. 3596 As Modified; To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to establish a pilot program under which agricultural producers may establish and contribute to tax-exempt farm savings accounts in lieu of obtaining federally subsidized crop insurance or noninsured crop assistance, to provide for contributions to such accounts by the Secretary of Agriculture, to specify the situations in which amounts may be paid to producers from such accounts, and to limit the total amount of such distributions to a producer during a taxable year, and for other purposes. Not Voting Rejected 422 2007-12-12 H.R. 2419 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3673 Gregg Amdt. No. 3673; To improve women's access to heath care services in rural areas and provide improved medical care by reducing the excessive burden the liability system places on the delivery of obstetrical and gynecological services. Not Voting Rejected 421 2007-12-12 H.R. 2419 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3553 Alexander Amdt.; No. 3553; To limit the tax credit for small wind energy property expenditures to property placed in service in connection with a farm or rural small business. Not Voting Rejected 420 2007-12-12 H.R. 2419 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3551 Alexander Amdt. No. 3551; To increase funding for the Initiative for Future Agriculture and Food Systems, with an offset. Not Voting Rejected 419 2007-12-12 H.R. 2419 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3672 Gregg Amdt. No. 3672; To strike a provision relating to market loss assistance for asparagus producers. Not Voting Rejected 418 2007-12-12 H.R. 2419 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3671 Gregg Amdt. No. 3671; To strike the section requiring the establishment of a Farm and Ranch Stress Assistance Network. Not Voting Rejected 417 2007-12-11 H.R. 2419 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3711 Lugar Amdt. No. 3711; Relative to traditional payments and loans. Not Voting Rejected 416 2007-12-07 H.R. 6 On the Cloture Motion Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Concur in the House Amdts. to the Senate Amdts. to H.R. 6; Renewable Fuels, Consumer Protection, and Energy Efficiency Act of 2007 Yes Rejected 415 2007-12-06 H.R. 3996 On Passage of the Bill H.R. 3996 as Amended; Temporary Tax Relief Act of 2007 Not Voting Passed 414 2007-12-06 H.R. 3996 On the Cloture Motion Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed to H.R. 3996; Temporary Tax Relief Act of 2007 Not Voting Rejected 413 2007-12-04 H.R. 3688 On Passage of the Bill H.R. 3688; United States-Peru Trade Promotion Agreement Implementation Act Not Voting Passed 412 2007-11-16 H.R. 2419 On the Cloture Motion S.Amdt. 3500 Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Harkin Amdt. No. 3500 (Subst.) to H.R.2419; In the nature of a substitute. Yes Rejected 411 2007-11-16 H.R. 4156 On the Cloture Motion Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed to Consider H.R.4156; Orderly and Responsible Iraq Redeployment Appropriations Act, 2008 Yes Rejected 410 2007-11-16 S. 2340 On the Cloture Motion Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed to Consider S.2340; A bill making emergency supplemental appropriations for the Department of Defense for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2008, and for other purposes. No Rejected 409 2007-11-14 H.R. 1429 On the Conference Report H.R.1429 Conference Report; Head Start for School Readiness Act Not Voting Agreed To 408 2007-11-13 PN776 On the Nomination Confirmation Robert M. Dow Jr., of Illinois, to be U.S. District Judge Not Voting Confirmed 407 2007-11-08 PN958 On the Nomination Confirmation Michael B. Mukasey of New York, to be Attorney General Not Voting Confirmed 406 2007-11-08 H.R. 1495 On Overriding the Veto Shall H.R. 1495 Pass, the Objections of the President of the United States to the Contrary Notwithstanding?; Water Resources Development Act of 2007 Not Voting Veto Overridden 405 2007-11-07 H.R. 3043 On the Motion Motion to Recede and Amend the Bill; Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2008 Not Voting Agreed To 404 2007-11-07 H.R. 3043 On the Motion Motion to Waive Rule XXVIII, Paragraph 3, Re: H.R. 3043 Conference Report; Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2008 Not Voting Rejected 403 2007-11-01 H.R. 3963 On Passage of the Bill H.R.3963; Support for Injured Servicemembers Act Not Voting Passed 402 2007-11-01 H.R. 3963 On the Cloture Motion Motion to Invoke Cloture on H.R.3963; Support for Injured Servicemembers Act Not Voting Agreed To 401 2007-10-31 H.R. 3963 On the Cloture Motion Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed to Consider H.R.3963; Support for Injured Servicemembers Act Not Voting Agreed To 400 2007-10-30 S. 294 On Passage of the Bill S.294 as Amended; Passenger Rail Investment and Improvement Act of 2007 Not Voting Passed 399 2007-10-30 S. 294 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3467 DeMint Amdt. No.3467; To require Amtrak to disclose the Federal subsidy of every ticket sold for transportation on Amtrak. Not Voting Rejected 398 2007-10-30 S. 294 On the Cloture Motion Motion to Invoke Cloture on S.294; Passenger Rail Investment and Improvement Act of 2007 Not Voting Agreed To 397 2007-10-30 S. 294 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3474 Coburn Amdt. No.3474; To require Amtrak to regularly report to Congress on the profits or losses relating to the provision of food and beverage service and to limit such service on Amtrak rail lines that incur losses. Not Voting Rejected 396 2007-10-25 S. 294 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3456 Sununu Amdt. No. 3456 as Modified; To remove the limitation on the number of Amtrak routes available for competitive bid. Not Voting Rejected 395 2007-10-25 S. 294 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3453 Sununu Amdt. No. 3453; To prohibit Federal subsidies in excess of specified amounts on any Amtrak train route. Not Voting Rejected 394 2007-10-24 S. 2205 On the Cloture Motion Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed to Consider S. 2205; A bill to authorize the cancellation of removal and adjustment of status of certain alien students who are long-term United States residents and who entered the United States as children, and for other purposes. Yes Rejected 393 2007-10-24 PN2 On the Nomination Confirmation Leslie Southwick, of Mississippi, to be U.S. Circuit Judge No Confirmed 392 2007-10-24 PN2 On the Cloture Motion Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Nomination of Leslie Southwick, of Mississippi, to be U.S. Circuit Judge No Agreed To 391 2007-10-23 H.R. 3043 On Passage of the Bill H.R. 3043 as Amended; Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2008 Not Voting Passed 390 2007-10-23 H.R. 3043 On the Motion McConnell Motion to Commit H.R. 3043 to the Committee on Appropriations, with Instructions; Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2008 Not Voting Rejected 389 2007-10-23 H.R. 3043 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3440 Bingaman Amdt. No. 3440 as Modified; Of a perfecting nature. Not Voting Agreed To 388 2007-10-23 H.R. 3043 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3352 Ensign Amdt. No. 3352; To prohibit the use of funds to process claims based on illegal work for purposes of receiving Social Security benefits. Not Voting Agreed To 387 2007-10-23 H.R. 3043 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3342 Ensign Amdt. No. 3342; To prohibit the use of funds to administer Social Security benefit payments under a totalization agreement with Mexico. Not Voting Agreed To 386 2007-10-23 H.R. 3043 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3400 Cardin Amdt. No. 3400; To provide support to Iraqis and Afghans who arrives in the United States under the Special Immigrant Visa program. Not Voting Agreed To 385 2007-10-23 H.R. 3043 On the Motion to Table S.Amdt. 3387 Motion To Table DeMint Amdt. 3387; To replace non-competitive earmarks for the AFL-CIO with competitive grants. Not Voting Agreed To 384 2007-10-23 H.R. 3043 On the Motion to Table S.Amdt. 3358 Motion To Table Coburn Amdt. No. 3358; To require Congress to provide health care for all children in the U.S. before funding special interest pork projects. Not Voting Agreed To 383 2007-10-23 H.R. 3043 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3437 Enzi Amdt. No. 3437; To prohibit the use of funds to modify certain HIV/AIDS funding formulas. Not Voting Agreed To 382 2007-10-22 H.R. 3043 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3347 Menendez Amdt. No. 3347 as Modified; To provide funding for the activities under the Patient Navigator Outreach and Chronic Disease Prevention Act of 2005. Not Voting Agreed To 381 2007-10-22 H.R. 3043 On the Motion to Table S.Amdt. 3369 Motion to Table Allard Amdt. No. 3369; To reduce the total amount appropriated to any program that is rated ineffective by the Office of Management and Budget through the Program Assessment Rating Tool (PART). Not Voting Agreed To 380 2007-10-18 H.R. 3043 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3373 Sessions Amdt. No.3373; To increase the amount of funds available for the Office of Labor Management Standards. Not Voting Rejected 379 2007-10-18 H.R. 3043 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3330 Vitter Amdt. No.3330; To prohibit the provision of funds to grantees who perform abortions. Not Voting Rejected 378 2007-10-18 H.R. 3043 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3395 Reid Amdt. No.3395; To clarify the application of current law. Not Voting Agreed To 377 2007-10-18 H.R. 3043 On the Motion to Table S.Amdt. 3321 Motion to Table Coburn Amdt. No.3321; To provide additional care for pregnant women, mothers, and infants by eliminating a $1,000,000 earmark for a museum dedicated to Woodstock. Not Voting Rejected 376 2007-10-18 H.R. 3043 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3348 Brown Amdt. No.3348; To provide funding for the Underground Railroad Educational and Cultural Program. Not Voting Agreed To 375 2007-10-18 H.R. 3043 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3362 Byrd Amdt. No.3362; To increase funding for the Mine Safety and Health Administration. Not Voting Agreed To 374 2007-10-18 H.R. 3043 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3368 Harkin Amdt. No.3368; To provide funding for activities to reduce infections from methicillin-resistant staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) and related infections. Not Voting Agreed To 373 2007-10-18 H.R. 3043 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3338 DeMint Amdt. No.3338; To provide a limitation on funds with respect to the Charles B. Rangel Center for Public Service. Not Voting Rejected 372 2007-10-16 H.R. 3093 On Passage of the Bill H.R. 3093, As Amended; Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2008 Not Voting Passed 371 2007-10-16 H.R. 3093 On the Motion Motion to Commit H.R.3093 to the Committee on Appropriations, with Instructions; Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2008 Not Voting Rejected 370 2007-10-16 H.R. 3093 On the Motion to Table S.Amdt. 3277 Motion to Table Vitter Amdt. No.3277; To prohibit funds from being used in contravention of section 642(a) of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996. Not Voting Agreed To 369 2007-10-16 H.R. 3093 On the Motion to Table S.Amdt. 3313 Motion to Table Dole Amdt. No.3313; To set aside $75,000,000 of the funds appropriated under the heading State and Local Law Enforcement Assistance for activities that support State and local law enforcement agencies in their efforts to assist the Federal Government's enforcement of immigration laws. Not Voting Agreed To 368 2007-10-16 H.R. 3093 On the Motion to Table S.Amdt. 3317 Motion to Table Thune Amdt. No.3317; To provide, in a fiscally responsible manner, additional funding for United States attorneys to prosecute violent crimes in Indian country. Not Voting Agreed To 367 2007-10-16 H.R. 3093 On the Motion to Table S.Amdt. 3295 Motion to Table Ensign Amdt. No.3295; To increase funding for the State Criminal Alien Assistance Program and offset the increase by reducing NASA funding. Not Voting Agreed To 366 2007-10-16 H.R. 3093 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3294 Ensign Amdt. No. 3294; To increase funding for the United States Marshals Service to ensure full funding for the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006 and offset the increase by reducing funding for the Advanced Technology Program. Not Voting Agreed To 365 2007-10-16 H.R. 3093 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3289 DeMint Amdt. No.3289; To prevent Federal employees from purchasing unnecessary first-class or premium-class airline tickets at taxpayers? expense. Not Voting Agreed To 364 2007-10-15 H.R. 3093 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3260 Brown Amdt. No. 3260 as Modified; To prohibit the use of any funds made available in this Act in a manner that is inconsistent with the trade remedy laws of the United States, and for other purposes. Not Voting Agreed To 363 2007-10-04 H.R. 3093 On the Motion to Table S.Amdt. 3243 Motion to Table Coburn Amdt. No. 3243; To provide $1,680,000 to investigate and prosecute unsolved civil rights crimes in a fiscally responsible manner by prioritizing spending. Not Voting Agreed To 362 2007-10-03 H.R. 3222 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3164 Feingold Amdt. No. 3164; To safely redeploy United States troops from Iraq. Not Voting Rejected 361 2007-10-03 H.R. 3222 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3117 Graham Amdt. No. 3117; To improve the security of United States borders. Not Voting Agreed To 360 2007-10-02 H.R. 3222 On the Motion to Table S.Amdt. 3126 Motion to Table Boxer Amdt. No. 3126 as Modified; To prohibit waivers for enlistment in the Armed Forces of individuals with certain felony offenses. Not Voting Agreed To 359 2007-10-01 H.R. 1585 On Passage of the Bill H.R. 1585 as Amended; National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 Not Voting Passed 358 2007-10-01 H.R. 1585 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3058 Kennedy Amdt. No. 3058; To provide for certain public-private competition requirements. Not Voting Agreed To 357 2007-09-27 H.R. 1585 On the Cloture Motion S.Amdt. 2011 Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Levin Amdt. No.2011 (Subst.) to H.R.1585; In the nature of a substitute. Not Voting Agreed To 356 2007-09-27 H.R. 1585 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2196 Coburn Amdt. No. 2196; To eliminate wasteful spending and improve the management of counter-drug intelligence. Not Voting Rejected 355 2007-09-27 H.J.Res. 52 On the Joint Resolution H. J. Res. 52; A joint resolution making continuing appropriations for the fiscal year 2008, and for other purposes. Not Voting Agreed To 354 2007-09-27 H.J.Res. 43 On the Joint Resolution H.J.Res.43; A joint resolution increasing the statutory limit on the public debt. Not Voting Agreed To 353 2007-09-27 H.R. 976 On the Motion Motion to Concur in the Amendments of the House to the Amendments of the Senate to H.R.976; Support for Injured Servicemembers Act Not Voting Agreed To 352 2007-09-27 H.R. 976 On the Cloture Motion Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Concur with House Amendments to the Senate Amendments to H.R.976; Support for Injured Servicemembers Act Yes Agreed To 351 2007-09-27 H.R. 1585 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3047 Hatch Amdt. No. 3047; To require comprehensive study and support for criminal investigations and prosecutions by State and local law enforcement officials. Yes Agreed To 350 2007-09-27 H.R. 1585 On the Cloture Motion S.Amdt. 3035 Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Kennedy Amdt. No. 3035; To provide Federal assistance to States, local jurisdictions, and Indian tribes to prosecute hate crimes, and for other purposes. Yes Agreed To 349 2007-09-26 H.R. 1585 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3017 Kyl Amdt. No. 3017 as Modified; To express the sense of the Senate regarding Iran. Not Voting Agreed To 348 2007-09-26 H.R. 1585 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2997 Biden Amdt. No. 2997 as Modified; To express the sense of Congress on federalism in Iraq. Not Voting Agreed To 347 2007-09-24 H.R. 1495 On the Conference Report H.R.1495 Conference Report; Water Resources Development Act of 2007 Not Voting Agreed To 346 2007-09-21 H.R. 1585 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2898 Levin Amdt. No. 2898; To provide for a reduction and transition of United States forces in Iraq. Yes Rejected 345 2007-09-20 H.R. 1585 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2924 Feingold Amdt. No. 2924; To safely redeploy United States troops from Iraq. Yes Rejected 344 2007-09-20 H.R. 1585 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2934 Cornyn Amdt. No. 2934; To express the sense of the Senate that General David H. Petraeus, Commanding General, Multi-National Force-Iraq, deserves the full support of the Senate and strongly condemn personal attacks on the honor and integrity of General Petraeus and all members of the United States Armed Forces. Not Voting Agreed To 343 2007-09-20 H.R. 1585 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2947 Boxer Amdt. No. 2947; To reaffirm strong support for all the men and women of the United States Armed Forces and to strongly condemn attacks on the honor, integrity, and patriotism of any individual who is serving or has served honorably in the United States Armed Forces, by any person or organization. Yes Rejected 342 2007-09-19 H.R. 1585 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2918 McCain Amdt. No. 2918; To express the sense of Congress on Department of Defense policy regarding dwell time. No Rejected 341 2007-09-19 H.R. 1585 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2909 Webb Amdt. No. 2909; To specify minimum periods between deployment of units and members of the Armed Forces deployed for Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom. Yes Rejected 340 2007-09-19 H.R. 1585 On the Cloture Motion S.Amdt. 2022 Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Specter Amdt. No. 2022; To restore habeas corpus for those detained by the United States. Yes Rejected 339 2007-09-18 S. 1257 On Cloture on the Motion to Proceed Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed to S. 1257; District of Columbia House Voting Rights Act of 2007 Yes Rejected 338 2007-09-18 H.R. 1124 On Passage of the Bill H.R. 1124 as Amended; A bill to extend the District of Columbia College Access Act of 1999. Not Voting Passed 337 2007-09-18 H.R. 1124 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2888 Coburn Amdt. No. 2888; To prohibit the Federal Government from favoring public colleges and universities over private colleges and universities under the District of Columbia College Access Act of 1999. Not Voting Rejected 336 2007-09-12 H.R. 3074 On Passage of the Bill H.R.3074 as Amended; Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2008 Yes Passed 335 2007-09-12 H.R. 3074 On the Motion to Table S.Amdt. 2814 Motion to Table Coburn Amdt. No.2812 Amdt. No.2813 Amdt. No.2814; To prohibit the use of funds for the construction of a baseball facility in Billings, Montana, and to reduce the amounts made available for the Economic Development Initiative and the Community Development Fund. Yes Agreed To 334 2007-09-12 H.R. 3074 On the Motion to Table S.Amdt. 2844 Motion to Table DeMint Amdt. No.2844; To provide a system for better construction and maintenance of America's aging bridge infrastructure by spending American tax dollars more effectively and efficiently. Yes Agreed To 333 2007-09-11 H.R. 3074 On the Motion to Table S.Amdt. 2811 Motion to Table Coburn Amdt. No. 2811; To prohibit the use of funds made available under this Act for bicycle paths so that the funds can be used to improve bridge and road safety. Yes Agreed To 332 2007-09-11 H.R. 3074 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2842 Cornyn Amdt. No. 2842; To ensure that every motor carrier entering the United States through the cross-border motor carrier demonstration program is inspected and meets all applicable safety standards established for United States commercial motor vehicles. No Rejected 331 2007-09-11 H.R. 3074 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2797 Dorgan Amdt. No. 2797; To prohibit the establishment of a program that allows Mexican truck drivers to operate beyond the commercial zones near the Mexican border. Yes Agreed To 330 2007-09-11 H.R. 3074 On the Motion to Table S.Amdt. 2810 Motion to Table Coburn Amdt. No. 2810; To prohibit funds appropriated under title I from being used for earmarks until all structurally deficient and functionally obsolete bridges have been repaired, with limited exceptions. Not Voting Agreed To 329 2007-09-10 H.R. 3074 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2792 Murray Amdt. No. 2792; To expand the extension of authority of the Secretary of Transportation and provide additional obligation authority for the highway bridge program. Not Voting Agreed To 328 2007-09-10 PN353 On the Nomination Confirmation Janis Lynn Sammartino, of California, to be U.S. District Judge Not Voting Confirmed 327 2007-09-10 PN25 On the Nomination Confirmation William Lindsay Osteen, of North Carolina, to be U.S. District Judge Not Voting Confirmed 326 2007-09-07 H.R. 2669 On the Conference Report H.R. 2669 Conference Report; College Cost Reduction Act of 2007 Not Voting Agreed To 325 2007-09-06 H.R. 2764 On Passage of the Bill H.R. 2764 as Amended; Department of State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 2008 Not Voting Passed 324 2007-09-06 H.R. 2764 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2704 Coburn Amdt. No. 2704; To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act for "Contribution to the International Development Association" may be made available for the World Bank malaria control or prevention programs. Not Voting Rejected 323 2007-09-06 H.R. 2764 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2716 Coburn Amdt. No. 2716; To provide for the spending of $106,763,000 on programs that save children's lives, such as the President's Malaria Initiative, rather than lower priority programs, such as the Global Environment Facility, which produce few results and are managed by the United Nations Development Program, which utilizes corrupt procurement practices, operates contrary to United Nations rules, and retaliates against whistleblowers. Not Voting Rejected 322 2007-09-06 H.R. 2764 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2773 Coburn Amdt. No. 2773; To ensure that the United States contribution to the United Nations is not being lost to waste, fraud, abuse or corruption by maximizing the public transparency of all United Nations spending. Not Voting Agreed To 321 2007-09-06 H.R. 2764 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2774 Vitter Amdt. No. 2774; To prohibit the use of funds by international organizations, agencies, and entities that require the registration of, or taxes guns owned by citizens of the United States. Not Voting Agreed To 320 2007-09-06 H.R. 2764 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2708 Brownback Amdt. No. 2708; To prevent contributions to organizations that perform or promote abortion as a method of family planning. Not Voting Rejected 319 2007-09-06 H.R. 2764 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2719 Boxer Amdt. No. 2719; To prohibit the application of certain restrictive eligibility requirements to foreign nongovernmental organizations with respect to the provision of assistance under part I of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961. Not Voting Agreed To 318 2007-09-06 H.R. 2764 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2707 Brownback Amdt. No. 2707; To prohibit funding of organizations that support coercive abortion. Not Voting Agreed To 317 2007-09-06 H.R. 2764 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2700 Ensign Amdt. No. 2700; To strike the provision in section 113 that increases the limit on the United States' share for United Nations peacekeeping operations during fiscal year 2008 from 25 percent to 27.1 percent so that the United States does not pay more than its fair share for United Nations peacekeeping. Not Voting Rejected 316 2007-09-06 H.R. 2642 On Passage of the Bill H.R. 2642 as Amended; Military Construction and Veterans Affairs Appropriations Act, 2008 Not Voting Passed 315 2007-09-06 H.R. 2642 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2673 Brown Amdt. No. 2673; To limit the cases in which funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to convert to contractor performance an activity or function of the Department of Veterans Affairs that is performed by more than 10 Federal employees. Not Voting Agreed To 314 2007-09-06 H.R. 2642 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2662 Salazar Amdt. No. 2662; To prohibit the use of funds to expand the boundaries or size of the Pinon Canyon Maneuver Site, Colorado. Not Voting Agreed To 313 2007-09-06 H.R. 2642 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2687 Coleman Amdt. No. 2687; To provide funding for security associated with the national party conventions. Not Voting Agreed To 312 2007-09-05 H.R. 2642 On the Motion to Table S.Amdt. 2686 Motion to Table DeMint Amdt No. 2686; To strike section 225, relating to a prohibition on the disposal of Department of Veterans Affairs lands and improvements at West Los Angeles Medical Center, California. Not Voting Agreed To 311 2007-09-04 PN688 On the Nomination Confirmation Jim Nussle, of Iowa, to be Director of the Office of Management and Budget Not Voting Confirmed 310 2007-08-03 S. 2011 On Passage of the Bill S.2011; A bill entitled "The Protect America Act of 2007". Yes Rejected 309 2007-08-03 S. 1927 On Passage of the Bill S.1927 as Amended; A bill to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 to provide additional procedures for authorizing certain acquisitions of foreign intelligence information and for other purposes. No Passed 308 2007-08-03 PN253 On the Nomination Confirmation Timothy D. DeGiusti, of Oklahoma, to be US District Judge Yes Confirmed 307 2007-08-02 H.R. 976 On Passage of the Bill H.R.976 As Amended; Small Business Tax Relief Act of 2007 Yes Passed 306 2007-08-02 H.R. 976 On the Motion S.Amdt. 2530 Motion to Waive CBA on Baucus Amdt. No. 2530; In the nature of a substitute. Yes Rejected 305 2007-08-02 H.R. 976 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2577 DeMint Amdt. No. 2577; To amend the Public Health Service Act to provide for cooperative governing of individual health insurance coverage offered in interstate commerce. No Rejected 304 2007-08-02 H.R. 976 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2562 Motion to Waive CBA Kyl Amdt No. 2562; To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to extend and modify the 15-year straight-line cost recovery for qualified leasehold improvements and qualified restaurant improvements and to provide a 15-year straight-line cost recovery for certain improvements to retail space. No Rejected 303 2007-08-02 H.R. 976 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2620 Hutchison Amdt No. 2620; To increase access to health insurance for low-income children based on actual need, as adjusted for cost-of-living. No Rejected 302 2007-08-02 H.R. 976 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2535 Allard Amdt No. 2535 As Modified; To codify the unborn child rule. No Rejected 301 2007-08-02 H.R. 976 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2596 Vitter Amdt. No. 2596 as Modified; To require individuals who are eligible for SCHIP and employer-sponsored coverage to use the employer-sponsored coverage instead of SCHIP. No Rejected 300 2007-08-02 H.R. 976 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2627 Coburn Amdt. No.2627; To ensure that children and pregnant women whose family income exceeds 200 percent of the poverty line and who have access to employer-sponsored coverage receive premium assistance. No Rejected 299 2007-08-02 H.R. 976 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2537 Kyl Amdt. No. 2537; To minimize the erosion of private health coverage. No Rejected 298 2007-08-02 H.R. 976 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2579 Thune Amdt. No. 2579; To exclude individuals with alternative minimum tax liability from eligibility for SCHIP coverage. No Rejected 297 2007-08-02 H.R. 976 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2540 Ensign Amdt. No. 2540; To prohibit a State from using SCHIP funds to provide coverage for nonpregnant adults until the State first demonstrates that it has adequately covered targeted low-income children who reside in the State. No Rejected 296 2007-08-02 H.R. 976 On the Motion S.Amdt. 2558 Motion to Waive CBA Graham Amdt. No 2558 As Modified; To sunset the increase in the tax on tobacco products on September 30, 2012. No Rejected 295 2007-08-02 H.R. 976 On the Motion S.Amdt. 2557 Motion to Waive CBA Specter Amdt. 2557; To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to reset the rate of tax under the alternative minimum tax at 24 percent. No Rejected 294 2007-08-02 S. 1 On the Motion Motion to Concur in the Amendment of the House to S.1; A bill to provide greater transparency in the legislative process. Yes Agreed To 293 2007-08-02 S. 1 On the Cloture Motion Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Concur in the Amendment of the House to S.1; A bill to provide greater transparency in the legislative process. Yes Agreed To 292 2007-08-01 H.R. 976 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2602 Kerry Amdt. No. 2602 As Modified; To provide sufficient funding and incentives to increase the enrollment of uninsured children. Yes Rejected 291 2007-08-01 H.R. 976 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2593 Lott Amdt No. 2593 as Modified; To provide a perfecting amendment. No Rejected 290 2007-08-01 H.R. 976 On the Motion to Table S.Amdt. 2547 Motion to Table Bunning Amdt No. 2547; To eliminate the exception for certain States to cover children under SCHIP whose income exceeds 300 percent of the Federal poverty level. Yes Agreed To 289 2007-08-01 H.R. 976 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2554 Dole Amdt No. 2554; To amend the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 to provide for a 60-vote point of order against legislation that includes a Federal excise tax rate increase which disproportionately affects taxpayers with earned income of less than 200 percent of the Federal poverty level. No Rejected 288 2007-08-01 H.R. 976 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2587 Gregg Amdt. No. 2587; To limit the matching rate for coverage other than for low-income children or pregnant women covered through a waiver and to prohibit any new waivers for coverage of adults other than pregnant women. Not Voting Rejected 287 2007-08-01 H.R. 976 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2538 Ensign Amdt. No. 2538; To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to create a Disease Prevention and Treatment Research Trust Fund. No Rejected 286 2007-07-31 H.R. 976 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2536 Allard amendment No. 2536; To standardize the determination of income for purposes of eligibility for SCHIP. No Rejected 285 2007-07-30 H.R. 976 On the Cloture Motion Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed to H.R.976; Small Business Tax Relief Act of 2007 Not Voting Agreed To 284 2007-07-26 H.R. 1 On the Conference Report H.R. 1, Conference Report; Improving America's Security Act of 2007 Not Voting Agreed To 283 2007-07-26 H.R. 1 On the Motion to Recommit DeMint Motion to Recommit H.R. 1 to Conference, with Instructions; Improving America's Security Act of 2007 Not Voting Rejected 282 2007-07-26 H.R. 2638 On Passage of the Bill H.R. 2638, As Amended; Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act, 2008 Not Voting Passed 281 2007-07-26 H.R. 2638 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2481 DeMint Amdt. No. 2481 ; To prohibit the use of funds to remove offenses from the list of criminal offenses disqualifying individuals from receiving TWIC cards. Not Voting Agreed To 280 2007-07-26 H.R. 2638 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2498 Sanders Amdt. No. 2498; To prohibit funds made available in this Act from being used to implement a rule or regulation related to certain petitions for aliens to perform temporary labor in the United States. Not Voting Agreed To 279 2007-07-26 H.R. 2638 On the Motion to Table S.Amdt. 2405 Motion to Table Alexander Amdt. No. 2405, as Modified; To make $300,000,000 available for grants to States to carry out the REAL ID Act of 2005. Not Voting Agreed To 278 2007-07-26 H.R. 2638 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2480 Graham Amdt. No. 2480; To ensure control over the United States borders and strengthen enforcement of the immigration laws. Not Voting Agreed To 277 2007-07-25 H.R. 2638 On the Decision of the Chair S.Amdt. 2412 Shall the Decision of the Chair Stand as the Judgement of the Senate Re: Graham Amdt. No. 2412; To ensure control over the United States borders and strengthen enforcement of the immigration laws. Yes Sustained 276 2007-07-24 H.J.Res. 44 On the Joint Resolution H. J. Res. 44; A joint resolution approving the renewal of import restrictions contained in the Burmese Freedom and Democracy Act of 2003. Not Voting Agreed To 275 2007-07-24 S. 1642 On Passage of the Bill S. 1642, as Amended; Higher Education Amendments of 2007 Not Voting Passed 274 2007-07-24 S. 1642 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2381 Kennedy Amdt. No. 2381, as Modified; To provide for a demonstration and certification regarding the use of certain Federal funds. Not Voting Agreed To 273 2007-07-23 S. 1642 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2376 Brown Amdt. No. 2376; To provide for a Federal supplemental loan program. Not Voting Rejected 272 2007-07-20 H.R. 2669 On Passage of the Bill H.R. 2669 as Amended; College Cost Reduction Act of 2007 Not Voting Passed 271 2007-07-20 H.R. 2669 On the Motion S.Amdt. 2353 Motion to Waive C.B.A. re: Kyl Amdt. No. 2353; To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal the individual alternative minimum tax. Not Voting Rejected 270 2007-07-20 H.R. 2669 On the Motion S.Amdt. 2364 Motion to Waive CBA Kerry Amdt. No. 2364.; A sense of the Senate relative to the Alternative Minimum Tax. Not Voting Rejected 269 2007-07-19 H.R. 2669 On the Motion S.Amdt. 2350 Motion to Waive CBA Dole Amdt. No. 2350; To amend the Help America Vote Act of 2002 to require individuals voting in person to present photo identification. Not Voting Rejected 268 2007-07-19 H.R. 2669 On the Motion S.Amdt. 2362 Motion to Waive CBA ; To repeal the sunset of the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 with respect to the expansion of the adoption credit and adoption assistance programs. Not Voting Rejected 267 2007-07-19 H.R. 2669 On the Motion S.Amdt. 2363 Motion to Waive CBA Landrieu Amdt. No. 2363; A sense of the Senate relative to the adoption tax credit Not Voting Rejected 266 2007-07-19 H.R. 2669 On the Motion S.Amdt. 2339 Motion to Waive Cornyn Amdt No. 2339; To provide interim relief for shortages in employment-based visas for aliens with extraordinary ability and advanced degrees and for nurses. Not Voting Rejected 265 2007-07-19 H.R. 2669 On the Motion S.Amdt. 2341 Motion to Waive CBA Sununu Amdt. No. 2341; No Statement of Purpose on File. Not Voting Rejected 264 2007-07-19 H.R. 2669 On the Motion S.Amdt. 2361 Motion to Waive CBA Schumer Amdt. No. 2361; A sense of the Senate relative to tax policy. Not Voting Rejected 263 2007-07-19 H.R. 2669 On the Motion S.Amdt. 2355 Motion to Waive CBA Ensign Amdt. No. 2355; To reduce document fraud, prevent identity theft, and preserve the integrity of the Social Security system, by ensuring that individuals are not able to receive Social Security benefits as a result of unlawful activity. Not Voting Rejected 262 2007-07-19 H.R. 2669 On the Motion S.Amdt. 2358 Motion to Waive CBA Stabenow Amdt. No 2358; Relative to illegal aliens qualifying for Social Security benefits. Not Voting Rejected 261 2007-07-19 H.R. 2669 On the Motion S.Amdt. 2340 Motion to Waive CBA Collins Amdt. No. 2340; To provide limited immunity for reports of suspicious behavior and response. Not Voting Rejected 260 2007-07-19 H.R. 2669 On the Motion S.Amdt. 2352 Motion to Waive CBA DeMint Amdt. No. 2352; To amend the National Labor Relations Act to ensure the right of employees to a secret-ballot election conducted by the National Labor Relations Board. Not Voting Rejected 259 2007-07-19 H.R. 2669 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2351 McConnell Amdt. No. 2351; To express the sense of the Senate on the detainees of Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Not Voting Agreed To 258 2007-07-19 H.R. 2669 On the Motion S.Amdt. 2334 Motion to Waive CBA Re: Coleman Amdt. No. 2334; To prevent the Federal Communications Commission from repromulgating the fairness doctrine. Not Voting Rejected 257 2007-07-19 H.R. 2669 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2333 Sessions Amdt. No. 2333; To strike the provisions relating to loan forgiveness for public service employees. Not Voting Rejected 256 2007-07-19 H.R. 2669 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2337 Nelson (NE) Amdt. No. 2337; To amend the special allowance payments. No Rejected 255 2007-07-19 H.R. 2669 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2330 Kennedy Amdt. No. 2330; To amend the amounts appropriated for Promise Grants for fiscal years 2014 through 2017. Yes Agreed To 254 2007-07-19 H.R. 2669 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2329 Murkowski Amdt. No. 2329; To increase the amount appropriated for the college access partnership grant program. Yes Agreed To 253 2007-07-18 H.R. 2669 On the Motion to Proceed Motion to Proceed to H.R. 2669; College Cost Reduction Act of 2007 Not Voting Agreed To 252 2007-07-18 H.R. 1585 On the Motion S.Amdt. 2087 Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Levin Amdt. No. 2087; To provide for a reduction and transition of United States forces in Iraq. Yes Rejected 251 2007-07-18 H.R. 1585 On the Motion Motion to Instruct Sgt. At Arms; National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 Yes Agreed To 250 2007-07-17 H.R. 1585 On the Motion Motion to Instruct the Sgt. at Arms; National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 Yes Agreed To 249 2007-07-17 H.R. 1585 On the Motion Motion to Instruct the Sgt. At Arms; National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 Not Voting Rejected 248 2007-07-17 H.R. 1585 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2100 Cornyn Amdt. No. 2100; To express the sense of the Senate that it is in the national security interest of the United States that Iraq not become a failed state and a safe haven for terrorists. Yes Agreed To 247 2007-07-13 H.R. 1585 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2135 Dorgan Amdt. No. 2135, as Amended; Relative to bringing Osama bin Laden and other leaders of al Qaeda to justice. Not Voting Agreed To 246 2007-07-12 H.R. 1585 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2019 Levin Amdt. No. 2019, As Amended; To provide for the care and management of wounded warriors. Not Voting Agreed To 245 2007-07-12 H.R. 1585 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2024 Sessions Amdt. No. 2024, as Modified; To state the policy of the United States on the protection of the United States and its allies against Iranian ballistic missiles. Not Voting Agreed To
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The thread's still going on? Look here I think you Eagle wouldnt have created the thread because you were expecting that being black would have hindered Obama alot in the beginning but as it turned out a few months later that he is leading over Hillary. Its not something that I believe is necessarly true. Its pretty much being damned if you do and damned if you dont but Obama has no choice in the color of his skin
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redspear wrote: If Charisma is all you care about ...(blah blah blah) Yes, exactly, thank you for putting those words in my mouth. That is indeed the only thing that matters. Complete idiots who have charisma should be elected, that is exactly what I was saying in my earlier thread, only I used words that indicated the exact opposite. How nice of you to understand what I meant.
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Groucho wrote: redspear wrote: If Charisma is all you care about ...(blah blah blah) Yes, exactly, thank you for putting those words in my mouth. That is indeed the only thing that matters. Complete idiots who have charisma should be elected, that is exactly what I was saying in my earlier thread, only I used words that indicated the exact opposite. How nice of you to understand what I meant. Charisma has nothign to do with being smart or being an idiot. It can only carry you so far when trying to get stuff done. Also people with great charisma as you put usually have just as many people who hate them. Also your negative section is very funny but Obama does have negatives and I have also discussed that earlier. No they aren't he is black. He is a true politician. He is not afraid to talk about issues generally but he is afraid to atach his name to politically senstive votes but actually voting. All this is moot as I will be voting for either Obama or Hillary come the fall election. I do think that either one will be a good president and all of the candidates including McCain will defintiely be better than Bush. What I find funny thoughis the number of Obama supporters who are now calling Hillary evil even when before a lot of them liked her(maybe didn't want to vote for her).
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 Re: If Obama wasn't black ...
loyalfromlondon wrote: Karl is dead on, I don't know why he's getting shit.
I've been calling a spade a spade since BOTH clinton and obama entered the race. Karl gets shit because people are so happy to use the whole racial argument when it works for them, but so willing to call another an idiot when it doesn't. political correctness and calling someone racist really only applies as long as the argument doesn't support you in some way .. or your opinions
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Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:28 pm |
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Krem
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Err Obama=Edwards? WTF, people? Yes, both of them have empty messages and an a "throwing money at a problem fixes it" attitude, but Obama as a speaker and as an engaging personality is leaps and bounds above Edwards. Edwards was easy to hate, for a libertarian like me. It's impossible to hate Obama. That's why he'll probably be America's next president, and not because he's black.
For the record, I can't stand his politics.
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Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:59 pm |
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Anita Hussein Briem
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If he wasn't black, he would be about where he is now. He might rack up 60% rather than 90% margins among black voters, but there would be no Muslim, Farrakhan, or Wright smears to deal with.
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Groucho
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"He is very lucky to be Barack Hussein Obama! Why, the only politician lucker is Idaho Representative Stalin Pol Pot bin Hitler." - Steven Colbert
(not an exact quote; from memory)
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Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:15 pm |
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Ripper
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"Everybody's saying the same thing: Hillary or Obama? A black man or a white woman? It's so hard to make up my mind! Like it's a suffering contest. And even if it was, how can you compare the suffering of a white woman to the suffering of a black man? I mean, white women burned their bras. Black men were burned alive!" --Chris Rock
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