torrino sucks!

this forum has mods? o_0

babas a fukin tramp

Ok, I'll put it out there. I think our *official warnings* mean zilch. I've never warned someone and not have it be thrown back in my face. What does that mean? It means people don't take them seriously, because they know we're not in a position to temp ban unless someone really toes the line about 1 trillion times.

Should there be guidelines? Lets say 5 warnings=1 temp ban? So that people realize when we say "You've been warned" we mean it? Would that hold people in place a bit? Do we want that? Just asking.

Language has been an issue. Me? I always placed an emphasis on content and context over form. I don't realy have to reiterate the point the now infamous "bicycle" comment doesn't actually have a swear in it, but is it more offense than saying "WTF, that movie was terrible." Previously I also remember reading a comment about someone getting their juvenile head out of their ass.....or something along those lines. Is that more offensive than saying, "Stop b******g about that movie"? If so, do you think we should be allowed to do something? Should it be under our discretion on if its offensive or not, or do we want to set up some peremters.

If this place grows, and we have 500 members, we're going to start getting some very random people. I'd prefer we speak as a forum on how to handle this before it happens. Really, it would make me feel better knowing this has been discussed with honest intentions than to think I'm doing stuff that is pissing off the entire board.

How about thread feeding? Spamming? Locking? Please feel free to discuss.

Eagle and bABA have known for a long time that our MODding situation isn't as I would have it, but what do you guys think. I originally wanted one-two different mods for each forum. Kind of like Libs in TV, Me and makeshift in Foreign.Indie, etc. That way those MODs would be responsible for feeding threads and watching their respective forums closely. I don't like how two or three of the mods here have to handle four forums. I just think its too draining and unfair. I don't MOD the review section, but I come in there often to update the thread archive because I realize Zingy is frantically runnning around trying to feed the Movies, BO, Cooler, and every other forum. bABA and Eagle thought it would feel too supervised, having basically as many MODs as memebers if the breakdown was as a suggested, and I see their point too. It would call for something like 20 MODs.

Anyways, I just noticed some people have expressed some frustration, and I'd like to know how it can be resolved to make this place better and more enjoyable for everyone. I hope this is a fairly technical thread in that sense. If someone has issues with one of the MODs, don't post it hear, send some other MOD you're most comfortable with the complaint and the reasons why (please have good reasons, or I'll have to shoot you). For this specific thread, I'd like it to be more about discussing the future of MODding here, so that we're ready to handle bigger masses, or at least able to appropriately handle the current numbers.

Thanks everyone for contributing.

*sits in the back, like the clever old guy, rocking in his chair* We knew it was comin'... *pulls out the pipe*

... Well, it does feel like some town meeting.

When I was a mod at Box Office Mojo, I tried to make people happy. Did it always work? No. I don't recall getting any major "guff", if you will, but it's true that you can't please everyone. Most people can respect a figure with power. When newbies start coming here, they won't disobey the mods. Most people here are "old friends", so it's like we don't really care about the rules. We don't take them as seriously. We should.

What can be done? A lot of things. Rules need to be enforced. We can't have guidelines. The term "guidelines" is a meaningless term, with a meaningless definition. Basically, it says "We'd love you to abide by these rules, but if you don't want to... well shucks, that's okay, too!". Guidelines are hope. Really, they mean NOTHING. Rules, on the other hand, are enforcable and respected. If we had rules, I think things would turn out better for the people who have problems.

The problem people seem to have is comparing to BOM, without directly coming out and say it. Truth is we don't want to be BOM. Want to know the problem with BOM? The administration. Is Sean Saulsbury a moron? Hell no he is not a moron. I'm positive Sean is an intelligent man. It doesn't make him Superman. It doesn't mean he can do anything and be good at it. It's very possible he would like to be a man with power, but just can't handle it. It's also possible his communication skills aren't great. He can't get in touch with people. The mods all seemed to try and get in touch with people. But, the admins needed to, as well. That is what makes KJ so much better. Eagle and Arsi are power figures, but still keep in touch with everyone here. They do their job, as well as socialize on the job. When the admins and mods can't get in touch with the needs of the users is when the problems arise.

There isn't a day that goes by where I don't regret doing what I did at BOM. But, the problems piled up, until I lost it. I could not take what was going on anymore, and I was tired of it. Do you know the biggest problem, however? My biggest problem was that if I posted a big, long speech about my problems with the administration, followed by my resignation? It would get closed, deleted, and lost forever. I would be removed as mod, and nothing of it would be mentioned again. So, I went crazy. Too crazy. I regret it. But, I wanted my message to be made. It got made, but if I could have done it without hurting everyone else, I would have. To be honest, that was not a majorly pre-planned thing. If I pre-planned what I wanted, I may have come up with something better.

*deep breath* My point is that KJ is far from a problem-riddled forum. We have a lot in order. Comparing to BOM, we are miles ahead. We have a strong administration. The moderators? I think they do a fine job. My only real problem is I don't know for certain what LMR and Amer do as moderators. I've never really seen them step in and say "Locked!", or as JMP would say, "Ka-chink!". But, if they hold their own, then that's good. Perhaps some mods do more than others, but that I can't comment on, because I don't know who does what, really.

But, because I have no problem doesn't mean there isn't one. We know that I'm not always right. Heck, I'm rarely right, right? Hopefully this stuff can be resolved before something major happens. All I can see is a lack of major rules that are enforced. We only have guidelines, and I think at least calling them rules may make them more respected amongst the users.

Was that one big jumbled mess or what? \:D/

I'm locking this thread

:laugh: How come no one told me of a few new emoticons?!

The problem with temp banning based on your own judgment is that someone else will probably have a disagreement. Should be a majority decision. I can see if it's HUGELY noticeable that there's a problem, but if it's not a huge problem and the mod believes they need a ban, then that causes MORE conflict.