For you, Mav, the way of life would be "ignoring all the facts that don't help you", considering that I even told the whole forum now that someone got my phone number, and you have yet to make a comment on that. You preached for a while that if someone recieved dolce's phone number, the circumstances would be different. Well, I don't see myself complaining, so I'm just waiting for you to reply...

your threats were mentioned in front of me a long time ago. i did not approve of them and i let it go. so don't come to me saying what i do and what i don't because if you think loyal's been given the free ticket, some might claim that so have you and many will claim that so have a lot of other people. at the end of the day, the decision is the mod bodies to make and eagle. first and foremost, eagles. and i stand behind his final decisions. the day i don't feel comfortable enough, i'll leave the admin position.

Oh my God...so a figure of speech that is well known, such as knocking somebody off their soapbox, and in this case, doing it in an internet conversation, became "Mav threatened to beat me up and knock my teeth out". I can't believe you actually posted that for everyone to see how warped your comments were.

BTW...that comment about Fett was very mild, and you jumped in my face, but, as you said days before in the Where's anadaroo thread when you were waiting to pounce on me as soon as I told him what I thought of him, you had some long standing issues that you wanted to get off your chest.

Uh...can't somebody explain to her how I never threatened her physically, and never threatened to knock her teeth out, because I seriously don't have it in me to explain english to anyone.

and what is this going to prove? You just mentioned that this thread is to get everything out in the open. thats what i'm doing so hence, i'm fulfilling your criteria for these threads. whether that information is in there or not is not going to change my stance on putting those up if i can find them.

Hey, just for fun, why don't you reply to dolce's baseless claim, and tell me how you too see how I threatened to knock her teeth out. Tell me how you can see the hidden meaning behind my true words. You do that so well.

The reason I haven't replied, is because I'm talking to 5 people at once and didn't get to it and then forgot. Who got your number from here?

How we do know what your intentions were with those comments, Mav?

See, you're being a hypocrite. You say you know what loyal's intentions were and you know that it wasn't "AOL's fault" the e-mail was sent out, but when it comes to a "threat" you made to dolce a while back (which she just proved), you try to twist it by saying that it was a "figure of speech".

How do we know that? How we do know you weren't serious?

EDIT: I don't need to tell the world who has my phone number. That's between me and the person who has it. I don't like to make a big deal about things that happen outside of the forum, but are somewhat related to the forum.

Well, for starters. I'd have thought anyone with an ounce of sense would've gauged that my sig and avatar are completely tongue in cheek.

But, for those of you out there - like Mav - who think that I do in fact have el_masked_esteROIDe_user carrying my immense penis, it's only a joke. My penis is in fact very small. Microscopic, in fact.

As for the dolce comment. I seem to remember you saying something about knocking her off her soapbox that prompted me to start an argument with you. My words to you at the time were: "your reply to bordered on being a threat and was completely uncalled for." You then went on to threaten me with a punch in the mouth.

Well I've never heard of it, English was not my first language, and found the comments quite aggressive. So let's just say I misinterpret things to be more aggressive than they are, you misinterpret other peoples comments to be more aggressive than they are, we all misinterpret things to be more aggressive than they are, end this business, and call it a day.

Well, when it is proven that the e-mail address doesn't match his claims of how he got it, will you still tell me he's innocent til proven guilty? It wasn't the same as my AIM. (which I don't provide here, BTW, but he decided to post for everyone to see. Not that he'll be told about it)

i will personally be telling you nothing. if you want to know why, you might want to go revisit the first post of this thread again.

in case you didn't understand the implication behind that one ... ""hint hint"

but the post will certainly prove if loyal's claim to getting your email address from there is correct or incorrect.

This is completely and utterly preposterous. I don't think i've ever seen an ego as out of control as your's is right now, Mav. You need to step back and view this situation in the proper light. It's a petty argument on an internet message board. Mav, in the grand scheme of your life, this ought to be a minute spec of an event. So a guy named loyalfromlondon sent you an email about an awards ceremony on an internet message board? Whoopie-doo, Mav. Do you realize how completely ridiculous it would sound if you told someone close to you in your real life about how you spent all day arguing about that? Mav, I know you have better things to be doing than this. We all do. The fact that you are so high on yourself as to believe that anybody is going to actually have sympathy for you over what you feel are wrong doings on an internet message board is asinine. People are raped, killed, robbed, and have their life's generally destroyed every single day, and you are turning THIS into a big deal?! I spoke with a lady the other day at my job who had her Grandson shot and killed and her brother die of a heart attack in the same week. What do you suppose she would think if you told her about this, and how much time you've spent on it as if it's a real problem?

So, were you the mod that decided to run to loyal with my private comments to you? People are raped, killed , and robbed everyday, and that's not even the same thing, but you act as if I'm asking for capital punishment here. Seems like you're making a big deal out of it, after all, my private message and comments to you sure went further than I took them, didn't it?

Well, now you have heard of it, and I'm actually glad that you posted that so everyone else could see that it wasn't a physical threat, but I am sorry if you took it that way. It really is nothing but a figure of speech.

I don't think that I need advice on common sense from you. Weren't you involved big time in a prank that even the smallest bit of common sense would have told you to back away from?

Mav, I think your actions recently are in very bad taste and I disapprove. You've let something so small as an email that said nothing but a title bragging about an online voting contest win turn into something you yourself should be ashamed of.

bABA and Eagle, as you can see, your mods like Zingaling don't read too well, and he's decided that the disclaimer about adding anything constructive doesn't apply. Above it all, I guess.

whether you need the advice or not is irrelevant. you started this public debate. you, me, eagle and the mods will live with advice thrown at us.

Well, as somebody who paraded loyal for best poster in his sig for months, it sounds like you took it pretty seriously, and your comments aren't really surprising or needed.

then next time, if you don't reply to it, maybe you won't add more credibility to his post. anyhoo, i'm getting rid of it.

I've spoken with loyal through PM's, what, maybe twice? And they were both concerning Paris Hilton and Fred Durst's porno tape's, if you must know. The fact is, I don't have the desire to get into a drama feast on a message board, Mav. When i'm upset about something regarding the boards, I speak with Galia and Galia alone. I've never talked to loyal about problems with the board. I've never talked to Zing about problems on the board. I've never talked to anyone about problems on the board, and I sure as hell don't care enough about drama to start another bitch and moan triathlon with you to give loyal your email address. I try and limit the amount of petty bullshit that I have to wade through on here. I do that enough everyday in my real life.

Again, since you missed it, Zingaling's comments add absolutely nothing but a personal comment. Mine have been deleted, his are supported. Go figure...

Apology accepted, and I hope you take this opportunity to re-evaluate how you take into consideration other people's comments just as I have. There's no need to dedicate entire threads to misunderstandings. You said it wasn't meant as anything other than a mild retaliation using a common phrase, and I'm not going to question that. Perhaps others who have come clean on their actions towards you could get a similar treatment in return we could put this behind us? There's funner stuff to talk about, like neo-wolf in a dress and heels, eh?

It was an ad campaign that worked, it was in good fun. I could care less what my sig says. It's just... there. If my comments weren't needed then why is this thread public? You said so yourself, you wanted to let all of KJ know what was going on. So I'm replying.

this isn't in maverikk's defense or loyals or anyone. but just to give you all a perspective, which i'm not has been properly given. this has been going on since january. started with million dollar man. resulted in concerns of baiting and stalking over the last few months, resulted in a ceasefire agreement a month or so ago, more concerns of ceasefire agreement being broken and now this. so this is about more than just an email.

Yeah, um...nice one? Talking about something that has the word "prank" in it shows how much common sense you have...

I'll repeat it again for the blind, like you. I didn't volunteer for the prank, I was picked.

And, yes, you do need advice. I'd consider a lot of teenagers on this board more mature (and have more common sense) than you do.