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BubbaGump
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Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:16 pm Posts: 1438 Location: Brea, CA
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Mr. X wrote: I'm not someone who hates Algren, but I think this was a great idea. This has nothing to do with the Garner is a horse comments, because he does it so much, I'm used to it. I couldn't care less about that. But, it seems when he gets backed into a corner, so to speak, he'll let fly stuff like "Go fuck yourself, you piece of shit!" or something along those lines. I don't think knowing what words are curse words or not has anything to do with it. If you say "Have sex with yourself, you piece of poop", it pretty much means the same, with the same intent. It just sounds funnier, that's all. Either way, I think the intent of what he says is what is deserving, not whether or not he knows if he's using curse words.
Now, let's all rejoice in a hand-holding circle of love.
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:15 pm |
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BubbaGump
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Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:16 pm Posts: 1438 Location: Brea, CA
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Impact wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Impact wrote: Well after a comment he made to Mat yesterday I thought he deserved a ban. You meen the one about being Mexican?? Yeah that was kind of overly rude. yep that one!
I don't like racial comments either.
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:18 pm |
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El Maskado
Arrrrrrrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhh!
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:17 pm Posts: 21572
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Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Impact wrote: Well after a comment he made to Mat yesterday I thought he deserved a ban. You meen the one about being Mexican?? Yeah that was kind of overly rude.
Mexican jokes are always funny. I can never get tired of the stolen car, landscape and hiding jokes that involve mexicans :razz:
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:26 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11625 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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El_Masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Impact wrote: Well after a comment he made to Mat yesterday I thought he deserved a ban. You meen the one about being Mexican?? Yeah that was kind of overly rude. Mexican jokes are always funny. I can never get tired of the stolen car, landscape and hiding jokes that involve mexicans :razz:
yeah, but it was the way he used it.
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:05 pm |
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neo_wolf
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Algren is hilariouse in a BKB way.
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:11 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:40 pm Posts: 36662
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neo_wolf wrote: Algren is hilariouse in a BKB way.
BKB is hilarious. Algren, not so much...
I'm not quite sure I agree with a 7-day banning, considering that many users curse like Algren does (and sometimes, even worse), yet they don't recieve warnings or bannings.
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:46 pm |
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:07 pm Posts: 28301 Location: ... siiiigh...
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Zingaling wrote: neo_wolf wrote: Algren is hilariouse in a BKB way. BKB is hilarious. Algren, not so much... I'm not quite sure I agree with a 7-day banning, considering that many users curse like Algren does (and sometimes, even worse), yet they don't recieve warnings or bannings.
It's not so much the cursing but the fact that he attacks people with curse words. If that's what you meant, I apologize. I misread somewhere.
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:50 pm |
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Eagle
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Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm Posts: 14631 Location: Pittsburgh
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Mr. X wrote: Zingaling wrote: neo_wolf wrote: Algren is hilariouse in a BKB way. BKB is hilarious. Algren, not so much... I'm not quite sure I agree with a 7-day banning, considering that many users curse like Algren does (and sometimes, even worse), yet they don't recieve warnings or bannings. It's not so much the cursing but the fact that he attacks people with curse words. If that's what you meant, I apologize. I misread somewhere.
Exactly.
Cursing is allowed unless in excess. Cursing directed at another member, or personal attacks are not.
Algren has violated the rules and has been punished accordingly.
If you see anyone else you think may also be in violation, please PM me. I am very serious when I say I aim to address this cloud of negativity, and these types of attacks are one of the forms it is manifesting itself.
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:09 pm |
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A. G.
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:23 am Posts: 13347
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Just for the record, I have absolutely no apologies for my post above, it was not baiting, it was an intelligent valid point.
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:21 pm |
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Eagle
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Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm Posts: 14631 Location: Pittsburgh
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I would happen to dissagree, I find the post serves no purpose, and is not helping in the slightest.
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:39 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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I tend to agree with Archie. He is being called out for a similar thing I was called out for before even though what he has stated was a fact just as I did.
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:20 pm |
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Eagle
Site Owner
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm Posts: 14631 Location: Pittsburgh
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A useless fact that serves absolutly no point. It has no chance at bettering the situation. It has no desire to better the situation. Infact, all it is doing is creating an entierly new situation.
I would much prefer that you would all just leave the disciplin to the moderating team, allow us to handle Goldie and his actions. If you have a problem with something he said or did, our PM boxes are open and waiting.
This is not the time, nor the place to voice it. And it is certainly nothing other than counter productive.
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:01 pm |
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matatonio
Teh Mexican
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:56 pm Posts: 26066 Location: In good ol' Mexico
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El_Masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Impact wrote: Well after a comment he made to Mat yesterday I thought he deserved a ban. You meen the one about being Mexican?? Yeah that was kind of overly rude. Mexican jokes are always funny. I can never get tired of the stolen car, landscape and hiding jokes that involve mexicans :razz: i agree on that! there pretty funny. but this one wasnt a joke, obviously he was just kidding (.....well i hope so). I really didnt like that comment i felt really offended Algren wrote: matatonio wrote: Algren wrote: Rocky beats Raging Bull hands down. Rocky sucks hands down....... :razz: :wink: Yeh but you're Mexican, so your opinion doesn't count :razz:
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:08 pm |
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A. G.
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:23 am Posts: 13347
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Eagle wrote: A useless fact that serves absolutly no point. It has no chance at bettering the situation. It has no desire to better the situation. Infact, all it is doing is creating an entierly new situation.
I would much prefer that you would all just leave the disciplin to the moderating team, allow us to handle Goldie and his actions. If you have a problem with something he said or did, our PM boxes are open and waiting.
This is not the time, nor the place to voice it. And it is certainly nothing other than counter productive.
I was sticking up for you actually, Eagle. I knew that to observers it would appear odd that you would ban Algren and not Goldie when they have done equivalent things, so I stuck up for you and said well it made sense, because if you ban Goldie he will just change IP and make new names, he doesn't give any sense of being reformable. Algren can be reasoned with easier it seems, banning him might cause reform.
And frankly I really don't appreciate you implying I had bad motives, you are basically calling me a liar when I said I wasn't baiting. I was not interfering in discipline. The point of these threads is to give our opinion, is it not? If you don't want feedback, then just post your post and lock it so we can't reply. Otherwise it looks like you want us to give our opinion and we will.
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:20 pm |
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Goldie
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Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:38 pm Posts: 7286 Location: TOP*SECRET ******************** ******************** ******************** ********************
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Archie Gates wrote: Eagle wrote: A useless fact that serves absolutly no point. It has no chance at bettering the situation. It has no desire to better the situation. Infact, all it is doing is creating an entierly new situation.
I would much prefer that you would all just leave the disciplin to the moderating team, allow us to handle Goldie and his actions. If you have a problem with something he said or did, our PM boxes are open and waiting.
This is not the time, nor the place to voice it. And it is certainly nothing other than counter productive. I was sticking up for you actually, Eagle. I knew that to observers it would appear odd that you would ban Algren and not Goldie when they have done equivalent things, so I stuck up for you and said well it made sense, because if you ban Goldie he will just change IP and make new names, he doesn't give any sense of being reformable. Algren can be reasoned with easier it seems, banning him might cause reform. And frankly I really don't appreciate you implying I had bad motives, you are basically calling me a liar when I said I wasn't baiting. I was not interfering in discipline. The point of these threads is to give our opinion, is it not? If you don't want feedback, then just post your post and lock it so we can't reply. Otherwise it looks like you want us to give our opinion and we will.
and Archie Gates' hits keep on coming.
I just wish that he would make statements that were true and not hog-wash.
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:34 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Goldie wrote: Archie Gates wrote: Eagle wrote: A useless fact that serves absolutly no point. It has no chance at bettering the situation. It has no desire to better the situation. Infact, all it is doing is creating an entierly new situation.
I would much prefer that you would all just leave the disciplin to the moderating team, allow us to handle Goldie and his actions. If you have a problem with something he said or did, our PM boxes are open and waiting.
This is not the time, nor the place to voice it. And it is certainly nothing other than counter productive. I was sticking up for you actually, Eagle. I knew that to observers it would appear odd that you would ban Algren and not Goldie when they have done equivalent things, so I stuck up for you and said well it made sense, because if you ban Goldie he will just change IP and make new names, he doesn't give any sense of being reformable. Algren can be reasoned with easier it seems, banning him might cause reform. And frankly I really don't appreciate you implying I had bad motives, you are basically calling me a liar when I said I wasn't baiting. I was not interfering in discipline. The point of these threads is to give our opinion, is it not? If you don't want feedback, then just post your post and lock it so we can't reply. Otherwise it looks like you want us to give our opinion and we will. and Archie Gates' hits keep on coming. I just wish that he would make statements that were true and not hog-wash.
Well, as a matter of fact the very same reasoning was given to me as to why you wouldn't be banned permanently by an admin of these boards. So it's not just Archie, you know...
What Archie says is right and his comment is misunderstood just like mine was recently since someone seems to be overly paranoid about baitings here. 
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:37 pm |
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Eagle
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OK now thats an outright and bold lie Lecter.
Unless Baba told you something of the sort, you either misconstrued something along the way, or are purely fabricating that, and I don't appreciate it.
I have been leinant with Goldie, and I have my reasons for that. But there has absolutly NEVER came a time when have said, discussed, or even thought about NOT banning goldie for fear he would re-create a duplicate account. I find that comment very offensive. I do my very best to police these boards, and I would never not ban someone for a reason like that.
Now Archie,
I understand what your saying, but your posts are not productive.
Your posts while they mean to be helpful, are not elping me in any way. I am not in the slightest worried about people crying foul about Algrens banning, as his track record is clear for all to see.
Goldie's record too is clear. As are my comments made in the Goldie vs WoKJ forum.
The fact is, I simply need all the members help regarding goldie. I have asked, I have pleaded, and I simply don't know what else to do to get you to keep his name out of your posts.
If you can not say something positive about him, then do not say anythign at all. Otherwise yes, in his case, I do consider it baiting, even if that is not the intended purpose. Just leave it alone. Leave him alone. That way I can make sure he leaves YOU alone.
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:46 pm |
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Goldie
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My last statement as I am off to dinner and maybe some drinks.
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I have no idea what the guys above are talking about other than trying to start trouble.
Can Archie tell me where he got this fact > if you ban Goldie he will just change IP and make new names, he doesn't give any sense of being reformable.
I once got 7 days and I also have been harassed other times but I never made a double account, changed my IP, etc. Unlike someone who made up BMP.
So Archie can you produce the other names I have used in 10 months here.
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:47 pm |
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dolcevita
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Last I checked, I remember warnings and bannings being locked announcements.
Why this thread has remained open this long is beyond me. Especially since it no longer has to do with Algren, and seeing as how it's he who has been banned, and doesn't have a means in which to respond to any comments that have been made here, I think it would be a great idea to just lock this announcements as previous ones have been. Take it to pm. I'm writing a pm as we speak, since none of this should be attached to a a banning announcement of a non-present member.
The triple warning by baumer and the guti warning bu eagle, both on this very page, are locked too.
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:55 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
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Goldie, let's not be hypocritical here.
You're arguing that Archie shouldn't make comments and should provide proof about you possibly making double accounts, and then you accuse "someone" (which we all know who you're talking about) of making a double account, BigMoviePimp (BMP). You have no proof of that either, so please don't accuse others when you don't like to be accused.
Other than that, I've seen an improvement over the past few days, so that's good. 
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:55 pm |
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Eagle
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Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm Posts: 14631 Location: Pittsburgh
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Dolce,
Warnings are Locked. Bannings are unlocked. A policy I may have to re-visit.
Furthermore, this is a PM sent to goldie, in response to a PM he sent me.
I just want to make it clear to you all, this baiting must stop, intentional, or unintentional.
Quote: Goldie,
Your slate is far from clean.
I am not exageratting when I say there was noone on your side in the discussions to ban you.
I overruled them only because I felt it was unfair the way you were treated, and because I felt it went to the root of a larger problem. Thats it.
You are going to be watched, and carefully so.
Mind your steps, ignore other posters comments towards you. As I have told you in other threads, I am giving you two weeks, if you are still what I consider a negative presence, you will be banned, regardless of if you have broken any rules since or not. Your most recent posts to archie are not productive. They are negative. And as it stands, you are still proving to be a negative presence here.
You have caused to many problems here, and I am absolutly done with it. I am done with members baiting you, and I am done with you responding in any way. Grow up please, and just walk away from it, or plan to walk away from this forum.
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:58 pm |
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dolcevita
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:24 pm Posts: 16061 Location: The Damage Control Table
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Eagle wrote: Dolce,
Warnings are Locked. Bannings are unlocked. A policy I may have to re-visit.
Ahh. I didn't know that. Thanks. Doesn't make that much sense to me because Algren can't really respond to any statements from people commenting on his behavior here. Maybe in the future, for temp bans, if its locked until the return, and then the threads could be reopened so that everyone can discuss what had happened and how to proceed, etc.?
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Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:02 am |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Eagle wrote: OK now thats an outright and bold lie Lecter.
Unless Baba told you something of the sort, you either misconstrued something along the way, or are purely fabricating that, and I don't appreciate it.
Well, Eagle, lemme see, how many admins do we have on here?
Apparently you didn't say it to me. Well...I guess you have enough logic to reconstuct the rest. So next time, before you call me a liar, let your brain cells work a bit.
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Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:04 am |
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Eagle
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Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm Posts: 14631 Location: Pittsburgh
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I would like to think my brain cells were working just fine when I wrote: "Unless Baba told you something of the sort".
Regardless of that fact. I will be in contact with Arsi when he wakes up to find out exactly what it is he said on this matter. There is no way, and I mean absolutly no way, that I would ever even consider that when discussing the banning of a member.
I will talk with him tomorrow.
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Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:08 am |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Eagle wrote: I would like to think my brain cells were working just fine when I wrote: "Unless Baba told you something of the sort".
Regardless of that fact. I will be in contact with Arsi when he wakes up to find out exactly what it is he said on this matter. There is no way, and I mean absolutly no way, that I would ever even consider that when discussing the banning of a member.
I will talk with him tomorrow.
I think you started off "OK now thats an outright and bold lie Lecter. " and then added bABA afterwards, apparently just assuming that it was actually a lie.
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