Algren wrote:
It would have been better if she had just ignored what he said. This back-and-forth in the media is so infantile. It's like something the US President would do on Twitter, not normal people.
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| Author: | tree and a half [ Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for women |
James Cameron says Wonder Woman is a step backwards for female protagonists The social justice warriors are going to hate having the truth pointed out to them by Cameron. Quote: "All of the self-congratulatory back-patting Hollywood’s been doing over Wonder Woman has been so misguided. She’s an objectified icon, and it’s just male Hollywood doing the same old thing! I’m not saying I didn’t like the movie but, to me, it’s a step backwards. Sarah Connor was not a beauty icon. She was strong, she was troubled, she was a terrible mother, and she earned the respect of the audience through pure grit. And to me, [the benefit of characters like Sarah] is so obvious. I mean, half the audience is female! I don’t – I don’t know. There are many women in power in Hollywood and they do get to guide and shape what films get made. I think – no, I can’t account for it. Because how many times do I have to demonstrate the same thing over again? I feel like I’m shouting in a wind tunnel!" |
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| Author: | stuffp [ Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
Cameron is always right, except for his endorsement on Terminator Genisys. |
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| Author: | Algren [ Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
SJWs will love this, what are you talking about? They scour the Internet looking for things to trigger their Tweets. |
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| Author: | zwackerm [ Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
"Boo hoo! Wonder Woman is hotter and better than the average woman! She should be obese with blue hair and hate men!" |
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| Author: | Rev [ Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
Quote: Patty Jenkins’ response to James Cameron.....“James Cameron's inability to understand what Wonder Woman is, or stands for, to women all over the world is unsurprising as, though he is a great filmmaker, he is not a woman. Strong women are great. His praise for my film Monster, and our portrayal of a strong yet damaged woman was so appreciated. But if women have to always be hard, tough and troubled to be strong, and we aren't free to be multidimensional or celebrate an icon of women everywhere because she is attractive and loving, then we haven't come very far have we. I believe women can and should be EVERYTHING just like male lead characters should be. There is no right and wrong kind of powerful woman. And the massive female audience who made the film a hit it is, can surely choose and judge their own icons of progress.” |
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| Author: | Algren [ Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
It would have been better if she had just ignored what he said. This back-and-forth in the media is so infantile. It's like something the US President would do on Twitter, not normal people. |
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| Author: | Rev [ Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
Algren wrote: It would have been better if she had just ignored what he said. This back-and-forth in the media is so infantile. It's like something the US President would do on Twitter, not normal people.
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| Author: | Thegun [ Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
Do people actually think WW did something for women? Part of the movies charm is how unimpactful it is. |
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| Author: | Price [ Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
Thegun wrote: Do people actually think WW did something for women? 
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| Author: | Groucho [ Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
Wow, look at all the men mansplaining to women what the movie means. |
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| Author: | Rev [ Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
Groucho wrote: Wow, look at all the men mansplaining to women what the movie means. right
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| Author: | Thegun [ Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
If that was the case, why aren't any women stepping up? Cameron would have been crushed in an hour. And also fuck Cameron. The whole thing is ludicrous. Make your next film already. Why is he even commenting? |
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| Author: | Algren [ Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
That's all it took for Thegun to back down. lol |
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| Author: | tree and a half [ Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
Groucho wrote: Wow, look at all the men mansplaining to women what the movie means. Wow, look at the gender binarist binarsplaining to the gender spectrum what gender identity means. |
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| Author: | Algren [ Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
I bet Chippy wishes he did not say he would no longer post. This topic is right up his alley. |
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| Author: | Thegun [ Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:43 am ] |
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Algren wrote: That's all it took for Thegun to back down. lol Back down from what? I wasn't the ones mansplaining that Groucho was referring to, I was adding to his and my point. |
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| Author: | Algren [ Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
Thegun wrote: Do people actually think WW did something for women? Part of the movies charm is how unimpactful it is. Yeah ok |
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| Author: | Mister Ecks [ Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
If only we knew what it was like to be married to a man who knocks other films for their portrayal of women while touting their own ability to portray strong, independent females on screen! Wait, let me check out if Joss Whedon's ex has anything to say about it... |
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| Author: | FILMO [ Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:30 pm ] |
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Yeah James.....the world needs more addict single mothers with violence issues like Sarah Connor. |
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| Author: | Algren [ Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
Wonder Woman is only good for women because it has "Woman" in the title. Otherwise, it's no different than any other film about women. She was only powerful because she has superpowers, and she is pretty. She has no personality, and is mostly the butt of every awkward joke. Is that really empowering for women in 2017? The film and its subsequent buzz was all a bit of a con really. Females felt forced to support it because it's a female superhero film made by a female. There you go, Groucho. 
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| Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
While there always has been a weird kinkiness to Wonder Woman, DC has so much more female representation in its lore than the "socially progressive" Marvel outside of X-Men. This just reeks of jealousy. |
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| Author: | Algren [ Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
Because when people don't notice, they really don't want female superheroes. When they are forced (made to feel guilty) to care, then we get Wonder Woman making $400m. |
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| Author: | Groucho [ Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:56 am ] |
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Algren wrote: Because when people don't notice, they really don't want female superheroes. When they are forced (made to feel guilty) to care, then we get Wonder Woman making $400m. The fact that it's a good movie has nothing to do with it, of course. I blogged about this when the film came out. https://ventrellaquest.com/2017/06/04/w ... hollywood/ |
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| Author: | Algren [ Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
Groucho wrote: Algren wrote: Because when people don't notice, they really don't want female superheroes. When they are forced (made to feel guilty) to care, then we get Wonder Woman making $400m. The fact that it's a good movie has nothing to do with it, of course. Exactly. 
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| Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: James Cameron points out WW is a step backwards for wome |
Fury Road, Wonder Woman, Force Awakens, I think we can stop with the novelty argument, it's becoming the norm the last couple of years |
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