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Chippy
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Dunkirk
Quote: Dunkirk is a 2017 English language war film[nb 1] written, co-produced and directed by Christopher Nolan. The film stars Fionn Whitehead, Tom Glynn-Carney, Jack Lowden, Harry Styles, Aneurin Barnard, James D'Arcy, Barry Keoghan, Kenneth Branagh, Cillian Murphy, Mark Rylance and Tom Hardy. Set during the Second World War, it concerns the Dunkirk evacuation. Distributed by Warner Bros. Pictures, the film is an international co-production between the United Kingdom, the United States, France and the Netherlands.
Nolan wrote the script, told from three perspectives–the land, sea and air–to contain little dialogue and create suspense solely through details. Filming began in May 2016 in Dunkirk, France, and ended in Los Angeles, United States, where it also began post-production. Cinematographer Hoyte van Hoytema shot the film on IMAX 65 mm and 65 mm large format film stock. The film made extensive use of practical effects such as employing 6,000 extras, assembling boats that had participated in the real Dunkirk evacuation, and using genuine era-appropriate planes for aerial sequences.
Dunkirk had its world premiere on 13 July 2017 at Odeon Leicester Square in London, England, and is scheduled to be released in the United Kingdom and United States on 21 July 2017, in IMAX, 70 mm and 35 mm film.
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thompsoncory
Rachel McAdams Fan
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Re: Dunkirk
One of the most intense movies I've seen in a long time, and it absolutely demands to be seen on the big screen. A
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thompsoncory
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Re: Dunkirk
The whole sequence where it intercuts between the pilot stuck in his cockpit in the ocean, the soldiers hiding in the boat getting shot at and Hardy being tailed on his plane almost gave me a nervous breakdown. The whole movie is a masterclass in editing.
This is also one of Hans Zimmer's best scores ever.
It's assured a boatload of Oscar nominations (except in the acting categories - everyone is great including Harry Styles actually, but this isn't an 'actors' movie' in any way).
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Excel
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Re: Dunkirk
Reserving post for my A++++ review
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publicenemy#1
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 18956 Location: San Diego
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Re: Dunkirk
Excel wrote: Reserving post for my A++++ review reserve another post talking about what's wrong with it if it under performs.
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21165 Location: Massachusetts
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Re: Dunkirk
Whoever said Michael Caine wasn't in this movie was a fucking liar.
Oh, and hands down loudest movie I've ever heard. Holy shit.
NOLAN!
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David
Pure Phase
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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Re: Dunkirk
Christopher Nolan's dramatization of the Dunkirk evacuation is undoubtedly an aural and visual masterpiece: the interplay of majestic, vertiginous aerial footage and steely-blue scenes of on-the-ground chaos; the cacophonous timepiece score. It is a film of constant, armrest-clenching suspense and spectacle. And though it results in an extraordinary ensemble cast, including Kenneth Branagh, Tom Hardy, and Cillian Murphy, being slightly underutilized, the foregrounding of incident, procedure, and in-the-moment experience over conventional character development is ultimately a clever way to submerge the viewer in the soldiers' fraught and uncertain mindset. Who's who is obscured by the crashing of waves, the roaring of aircraft, and the stinging whistle of gunfire. I have one significant qualm: though he has employed it incredibly well in prior films, most notably the game-changing Memento, Nolan's use of a nonlinear structure here registers as busy and pretentious. I adore his idea of presenting the evacuation from the perspectives of air, land, and sea, but I am not convinced the film is enriched by having those three prongs complicatedly intertwine as events play out multiple times from alternating vantage points. The manipulation of timelines never results in a glorious a-ha moment or a deeper understanding of the story and its players. It just feels decorative and can even be a tad confusing.
B+
Also, this sounds more critical than I intend, but the film is never particularly moving. When it tries—say, the death of the "I'll be useful, sir!" teenager on the boat or Branagh declaring he'll stay for the French!—it is a bit feeble. But I am going to allow it because there are more than enough great war tearjerkers. Oddly, the moment I found most moving is Hardy's character setting his plane on fire and being captured.
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David
Pure Phase
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Re: Dunkirk
1. Inception 2. Memento 3. The Prestige 4. The Dark Knight 5. Interstellar 6. Batman Begins 7. Dunkirk 8. Following 9. The Dark Knight Rises 10. Insomnia
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21165 Location: Massachusetts
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Re: Dunkirk
Quick question though and I'll put it in a spoiler since it's opening night. I love Zimmer and I think his score for this is pretty fucking fantastic. However, there's one key scene on a boat towards the end where the dialogue gets muffled a little bit because of the score. If I heard correctly, was Mark Rylance Tom Hardy's father? Because if that's true, there's no better "a-ha" moment this year.
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Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:58 pm |
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David
Pure Phase
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Re: Dunkirk
No. His son was a pilot who died earlier in the war.
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
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Re: Dunkirk
Yeah, I realized driving home that the timelines didn't match. That seems like a missed opportunity. It might of come off incredibly corny and maybe that's why he avoided it (or the thought never crossed his mind as he's probably more focused on the three separate acts of heroism, but it was on the cornball tee. Not unless he incepted us (or me).
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The Dark Shape
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Re: Dunkirk
I need to chew on it. The timelines didn't come together quite as cleanly as I would have liked, but I feel like it could play better upon second viewing when I have a better grasp of how everything interlocks.
Right now, it's hovering in the B+/A- range.
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David
Pure Phase
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Re: Dunkirk
I am a bit confused as to how Styles' group ended up out at sea where Rylance rescues them. Were they on the boat which tips after being bombed?
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publicenemy#1
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Re: Dunkirk
Hm.... definitely one that becomes more favorable as I think about it. I don't think My audience liked it lol
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redfirebird2008
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Re: Dunkirk
publicenemy#1 wrote: Hm.... definitely one that becomes more favorable as I think about it. I don't think My audience liked it lol The reactions are going to be pretty divisive with general audiences. On the South Korea version of IMDB, it is already rated the second lowest of Nolan's movies next to Insomnia. Probably headed for a lower rating in a hurry. The South Korea situation is a pretty big red flag if you think this movie is going to have great WOM with the general audience. South Korea has worshiped the hell out of Nolan's big budget work for years. Interstellar was a phenomenal success in that country.
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Keyser Söze
Quality is a great business plan
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Re: Dunkirk
Easily the most intense experience I had in cinema. I watched this at imax 70mm dome. That wasn't fun but the experience was super immersive. None of the characters registered and as David said the multiple timelines did not intersect as well as how inception worked. But this was definitely one of a kind experience.
Definitely will be divisive though my audience(in bay area) clapped at the end. I hope it opens big enough to be successful.
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xiayun
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Re: Dunkirk
Magnus wrote: I will have more to say tomorrow but it's perhaps the least enjoyable Nolan blockbuster but probably the single best cinematic experience he's ever created. 100% agree. This was an experience, and you never even got to see an enemy's face. You feel their fear, their despair, and the danger every step of the way; it's relentless. To survive was truly a miracle.
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21165 Location: Massachusetts
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Re: Dunkirk
Magnus wrote: -The film works so well in IMAX 70mm that I think it will be significantly different even in a regular movie theater. This isn't a issue but it does mean the film will just naturally be viewed be differently from everyone. It creates almost like a "original cut vs. directors cut" debate. I can totally understand people not liking it as much if they don't see it in 70mm. I saw it in RPX on Thursday because I wanted to see it immediately but not make a 75 minute drive to the nearest true IMAX 70mm FILM theater. I plan on making the trip this week. Serious question: earplugs or no earplugs for IMAX? Maybe it's because I was sitting right under a speaker, but I was sitting in my seat with the honest thought of, "Oh my ears might bleed and I wouldn't be surprised; NOLAN!" IMAX even takes it up another notch, right?
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Algren
now we know
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Dunkirk
He's only gone and done it again! How can one director has so many magnum opuses? This is undoubtedly my favourite film of the year. It is a masterpiece war film depicting a rarely covered portion of the war - the retreat of the Allies. I admire the experimental method for delivering these three breathtaking intertwining stories that Christopher Nolan employed. Such masterful craftsmanship. Perfectly acted, beautifully scored, gorgeously photographed, succinctly edited, such an intense and realistic portrayal. The level of fear and panic you endure as the viewer is sensational, and you do not ever even see the enemy! This film made me proud to be British. I have to see this again.
A+
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Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:07 pm |
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Algren
now we know
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Re: Dunkirk
1. Interstellar 2. Dunkirk 3. The Prestige 4. Batman Begins 5. Inception 6. The Dark Knight 7. Following 8. Insomnia 9. The Dark Knight Rises
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stuffp
Keeping it Light
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Re: Dunkirk
Wow, excellent film. An amazing experience from start to finish. Nolan's last film, Interstellar, didn't feel flawless to me, but with Dunkirk he put all the sails straight up and it works from start to finish. With it being a true event the outcome isn't really a surprise, but the film kept me locked in with every shot. Great score, great cinematography, a wonderful cast, Nolan shows all around why he should be considered the most talented director right now. What lifts the film to another level is how it tell the story through 3 different arcs and how they play along side each other at different timelines and are connecting at the same time. The film is an exciting tale of a rather unknown part of the second WW for me. And oh, boy, did this leave an impression I'll remember for quite a while. I look forward to experiencing it again soon.
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Algren
now we know
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Re: Dunkirk
Sublime film, but there was one thing I questioned. In the "one day" section, at one point one of the characters mentions "the local newspaper". I do not think they would have said this. I think, what with how localised and narrow-reaching people were back then, they would have said the name of the newspaper, not just a broad term for it.
But yeah, an extremely minor screenwriting gripe.
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Algren
now we know
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Re: Dunkirk
I love how there is absolutely no rest for the British. There are countless attacks and shots right until the end. It never lets up, which is how war is. Unpredictable, and does not follow normal Hollywood formulas.
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stuffp
Keeping it Light
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Re: Dunkirk
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1. Inception 2. Memento 3. Dunkirk 4. The Prestige 5. Interstellar 6. Dark Knight Trilogy 7. Insomnia
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Cream of the Crop
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Re: Dunkirk
You've got to give Christopher Nolan his full credit: without failed experiments like Dunkirk, the quest for storyless cinema would never move forward. It starts off as "Tree of Life: WW2 Edition", then on to a disjointed series of snappy war action clips. It's a post-war movie-war movie. So atomized that it's perfect for splicing apart and assembling your own cracking good war movie at home - just add your own story! On the plus side, the sound design is awesome, but that overbearing Zimmer soundtrack - yikes. If Nolan ever gets hold of a script by a great writer, he might be dangerous. But in the meantime, at least I had plenty of time to think about how all those lead soldiers managed to keep their hair looking so stylin' under battle / sea evacuation conditions. *D*
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