barely watchable teenie slasher (its not a horror film, people) that is never scary and exciting. the fact that it wants to be clever and pretends to bend the rules of the subgenre annoys me the most. the way it references classics of the horror genre is hamfisted, so that a true connoisseur of the genre would roll his eyes. kevin williamson should stick the screenplay in his ass. scream is a movie that should be detested instead of celebrated, because it paved the way for the new wave of shitty teen slasher flicks. wes craven should stick to some real horror instead of doing scream again and again, with slight variations. here is what dario argento has to say about the lamentable state of the horror genre today: "Moreover many authors became lazy and their inspiration stopped. We can look at Carpenter, or Romero, or Raimi. Wes Craven makes "Scream" for adolescents, and he is the one who made "The Serpent and the Rainbow" and many other interesting films. He has let them go. Others simply stopped, like Tobe Hooper."

well he detests "horror" flicks made for adolescents, and i share his opinion. and his recent movies, although a far cry from his early masterpieces, are still better than "cursed", wes cravens newest shitty teenie flick.

I completely agree. Plus, this is actually clever unlike 95% of spoofs. Plus, what I don't like about movies like Team America and Scary Movie is that they try to rip apart movies that do what they do best far better then the spoofs do (or could). That fact makes for better irony then any of the jokes in either of those movies IMO. Scream actually works as well as the horror movies it spoofs, even better I'd argue. Yet, it doesn't wish to tear them down. I find that much more admirable. I remember one of the Wayne brothers saying that they made Scary Movie because they don't think slasher flicks should exist. I would be less prone to disagree with someone who said that movies like White Chicks and Little Man shouldn’t exist.

BTW, IMO Scary Movie (the original) is quite stupid. It takes a much smarter movie, doesn't get it, and inserts penis jokes. I think there was one somewhat clever joke in that movie, and you needed the DVD to read it.

Good thing you're the last person I'd listen to when looking for good horror.

coming from someone who dismisses true classics like halloween or the exorcist as overrated, but claims that hannibal is a masterpiece that cannot be topped, i take that as a compliment.

It's simply inane for one, who isn't able to distinguish between good and bad movies, to call someone else a film snob.

It's simply inane for one, who isn't able to distinguish between good and bad movies, to call someone else a film snob.

I think now it's the best time to repeat myself:

that objective/subjective discussion is absurd. what one thinks about a movies quality is always subjective, its called an opinion. there is no scientific way to measure the quality of any work of art, be it a film, a painting, a novel or a sculpture. scream is a bad movie because what i saw was bad. the majority of horrorfans saw a good or great film. different people with different tastes can get different things from the same film. doesnt make me a film snob.

that objective/subjective discussion is absurd. what one thinks about a movies quality is always subjective, its called an opinion. there is no scientific way to measure the quality of any work of art, be it a film, a painting, a novel or a sculpture. scream is a bad movie because what i saw was bad. the majority of horrorfans saw a good or great film. different people with different tastes can get different things from the same film. doesnt make me a film snob.

barely watchable teenie slasher (its not a horror film, people) that is never scary and exciting. the fact that it wants to be clever and pretends to bend the rules of the subgenre annoys me the most. the way it references classics of the horror genre is hamfisted, so that a true connoisseur of the genre would roll his eyes. kevin williamson should stick the screenplay in his ass. scream is a movie that should be detested instead of celebrated, because it paved the way for the new wave of shitty teen slasher flicks. wes craven should stick to some real horror instead of doing scream again and again, with slight variations. here is what dario argento has to say about the lamentable state of the horror genre today: "Moreover many authors became lazy and their inspiration stopped. We can look at Carpenter, or Romero, or Raimi. Wes Craven makes "Scream" for adolescents, and he is the one who made "The Serpent and the Rainbow" and many other interesting films. He has let them go. Others simply stopped, like Tobe Hooper."

would it make you happy if i added "imo" in every sentence?

As for the "adolescent" comments, mainstream horror has always been targeted at teenagers. Do you think Friday the 13th or Terror Train were created for middle-aged terror fans? They were designed as thrill rides, plain and simple. It's the same bullshit argument as when people complain about films aimed at "teenyboppers." It's always been that way, you're just not the teen anymore.