This is such a B movie witb bitter after taste because the story is strong and execution average .

Anybody saying A... That's personal preference. Anybody saying D or worse is likely a hypocrite.

This is almost EXAcTLY the same as MAn of steel. No, this isn't clpse to batman and robin, or even Dulltron.

I found Man of Steel enjoyable.

It's not that bad. It's just not that great either. This is a Man of Steel clone. Strong concept, some great scenes, some puzzling plot turns.

Word of mouth will be identical to MOS except people will love WW and like Bats.

Snyder has to go though. Ugh there's so much unrealized potential here.

How long are we giving Excel until he goes through his revisionist history phase and thinks it's a piece of shit?

One month?
Six months?

Dulltron as you call it is infinitely better than Man of Steel.

One last thought for now...

They should've done AT LEAST the Batman solo movie first. I understand wanting to get right to it, but I would've loved to know more about him. I'd also throw the Wonder Woman solo movie in there (say hi to Chris Pine when the group photo pops up), but her entrance in this movie, if handled by a better director, could've been epic.

No, this isn't close to that bad. I was prepared to say it if it was. It was not. Let's just stop the overboard hate on an average movie because it was not great and deep down everybody really wanted to be and there are obvious parts of the film where greatness was possible and they're largely missed.

Now we're down to average...

I will say - Clark and Lois works. You could practically hear the women on the audience melt when Cavill so authentically says iLY to Lois at the end.

Could the best line of the series, even if the context isn't as good as it should be.

There was such an epic film buried in there.

My view won't change. You're upset at missed potential

Yep.

And...

Lack of enjoyment
Zero "wow" factor
Inept storytelling
Snyder's beliefs of what Superman and Batman stand for
Setting the big fight in the dark (something MOS got right)
Lex
Doomsday

Oh, and I lied. One MORE thing....

If some people were afraid of Superman while he was fighting Zod and then eventually on to saving people/rockets, what are they going to think when he resurrects from the dead? They love him at the end of this movie...then it eventually has to dawn (HA) that he can't be killed.

And why do I get the feeling the next film won't address this.

My assessment of the film's reception.

I will not get into the contradictions of many who hold MOS/BVS up to a totally different lens than Marvel films. That said...

Critics will be/were almost certainly disappointed here because the potential for more is just so obvious. When the movie works, it really works. The general story is so obviously compelling. The actors all do very well in their roles, though JE hams it up a lot. However, some straight up BIZARRE and TERRIBLE editing really deprives the film of any real sense of energy.

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But there is just a very minimal sense of urgency or drama as it happens because the set up is so off. People who really understand it realize the potential for a very powerful story is there, but the execution is off so it just kind of 'happens'. It is just so fucking clear how Nolan would hit home runs with this material but Snyder flies out to the mid outfield. It is just like MOS in that sense. You get the sense that in more capable hands, this same cast doing the same story could deliver an incredible product instead of merely decent one. That sense is OBVIOUS and hard to shake or ignore.

However, this will not effect the normal casual movie goer, it will only bother the more pretentious critic who knows how close they were to doing something much better.

Pretty much, yes. People pay for entertainment ultimately and that is how they gauge if it was worth their money. Not everybody aspires to only see Oscar winners, trust me.

And once people pay to see Batman v Superman they'll realize it isn't very entertaining. The dumb ones don't even have bright pictures to fall back on.

My prediction for TFA regardless, you don't understand general audiences very well. No point in beating dead horse.

That's a pretty big regardless. It's only the highest grossing movie ever, but yeah, let's just pretend your finger is on the pulse.

And let's see...

The IMDb score has gone from a 9.2 to a 7.8. IN A DAY
The RT audience score has gone from an 86 to 76 in a day and a half.

And we're an hour into Friday.

I really just don't care. We're allowed to have instincts. I don't think many movie goers will find BVS bad. Maybe not great, but bad? No.

And just "good" or "average" doesn't get repeat viewings.

Nor does it destroy a brand or lead to 70% drops. So your point is what? MY point is the WOM will not be even close to the level of the RT score. I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

I enjoyed it far more the second time. Sorry not sorry.

Never said it did on either, but keep building that argument in your head.



My point is that WOM will be average to lukewarm at best.

This gets a 7/10 from me, but has a bittersweet after taste because it should have been a 10/10. The cast and crew are great across the board, the editing and pacing are just way off.

It is simply impossible to not get the sense that Christopher Nolan would have hit a grand slam with this exact same story.

I did as well. Ofcourse my expectations were lower and this entertained me thanks to the actors.