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Author:  Algren [ Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:48 pm ]
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Paramount has just dated the Ridley Scott-directed follow-up for November 22, 2024.

Aftersun Oscar nominated Best Actor Paul Mescal is in talks to be in the film.

Scott produces with Michael Pruss, Doug Wick and Lucy Fisher off David Scarpa’s screenplay.

Nov. 22 is the weekend before Thanksgiving 2024. No other tentpoles are currently scheduled on the date. "Gladiator 2" will precede the Nov. 27 theatrical release of an untitled Disney animated film.

Author:  publicenemy#1 [ Sat Feb 04, 2023 12:44 am ]
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This makes me want to rewatch Gladiator. Haven't seen it in probably 15+ years.

If it's very good maybe it'll be an Oscar contender... we'll see

Author:  O [ Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:18 am ]
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If ID4's sequel could pull $100M WITHOUT Smith (pre-Slap) I feel this can get there. Definitely in but I could see it do much, much more. The nostalgia and love for the original is just too strong and the same director is compelling enough for me. I wouldn't be shocked if we saw some type of flashbacks with de-aged Russell Crowe in there given how advanced the tech is getting too.

Author:  Barrabás [ Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:45 am ]
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Paul who? You can't just replace Russell Crowe like that

Flop

Author:  MadGez [ Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:49 am ]
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Crowe was close to an unknown globally before Gladiator really (bar here in Oz where he was now at least since Romper Stomper in 92). The IP will help this one.

Author:  O [ Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:58 am ]
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Great point. There really wasn't any star power when the first movie came out. It opened solidly but legged out for much of the summer. Crowe became a star but the director and concept were the initial star here.

Another thing in Gladiator 2's favor is that it will be Ridley Scott's follow up to a 2023 team up with Joaquin on a Napoleon doc. If that reunion resonates (expect it will, he seems like he could do a very good Napoleon), going to bring lots of buzz to Gladiator 2 as a big historical spectacle.

Author:  MadGez [ Sat Feb 04, 2023 3:10 am ]
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Oh I forgot about Napoleon coming out this year. That will be a perfect lead-in!

I think Ridley’s in a great spot right now coming off Last Duel and Gucci - as both were good films IMO

Author:  Algren [ Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:29 am ]
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Mescal wouldn't be replacing Crowe anyway. He will be playing Lucius, the boy from the first film.

Though I disagree with the claim that because the first didn't rely on starpower this sequel hasn't lost anything by not starring Crowe. It definitely has lost a big part of it because while Crowe wasn't what sparked the first's success he basically IS the film in everybody's mind now. To not have him leading will hurt it. He IS Gladiator. It's so iconic and that status is intertwined with Crowe. This could flop easily if not handled right, that's why I think a sequel to Gladiator is too much of a risk. It should be left alone.

Author:  zwackerm [ Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:22 am ]
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We have to look at the genre this is in. Sword and sandal movies flop left and right in 2023. The Gladiator brand name will mean very little if the cast is changed. Will just look like a lamé ripoff

Author:  Thegun [ Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:47 pm ]
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I'd say 300 2 is a better comparison, though that film did have a decently well known cast and shamefully used Butler in the marketing.

I liked the original script better when Crowe was attached, where it was about Gladiator fights in the afterlife. Not it's just a fake historical epic.

Also, Crowe was on the cusp of blowing up with staring in 2 best picture and one best actor nominee (LA Confidential and the Insider)

Author:  Shack [ Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:34 pm ]
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Depends on whether Ridley delivers quality wise. I'd bet on box office fail.

Author:  O [ Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:44 pm ]
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Denzel has joined the cast. Reunited with Ridley for the first time since American Gangster.

Barry Keoghan has also joined as his follow up to his Oscar nominated supporting role in The Banshees of Inisherin.

This is DEFINITELY doing $100M+. Denzel's fanbase is incredibly devoted and he's got a great box office track record overall for his non-indie artsy movies. For interest's sake, I had to go back to 1998 to find a movie of Denzel's that didn't come close or surpass the film's budget.

Jan 29, 2021 The Little Things $15,342,746 *Covid lowered grosses so not including.
Jul 20, 2018 The Equalizer 2 $102,084,362
Nov 17, 2017 Roman J. Israel, Esq. $11,962,712 *Awards movie with $13M budget
Dec 16, 2016 Fences $57,682,904 *Awards movie with $24M budget
Sep 23, 2016 The Magnificent Seven $93,432,655
Sep 26, 2014 The Equalizer $101,530,738
Aug 2, 2013 2 Guns $75,612,460
Nov 2, 2012 Flight $93,772,375
Feb 10, 2012 Safe House $126,181,630
Nov 12, 2010 Unstoppable $81,562,942
Jan 15, 2010 The Book of Eli $94,835,059
Jun 12, 2009 The Taking of Pelham 123 $65,452,312
Dec 25, 2007 The Great Debaters $30,226,144 *Awards movie with $15M budget
Nov 2, 2007 American Gangster $130,164,645
Nov 22, 2006 Déjà Vu $64,038,616
Mar 24, 2006 Inside Man $88,634,237
Jul 30, 2004 The Manchurian Candidate $65,948,711
Apr 23, 2004 Man on Fire $77,906,816
Oct 3, 2003 Out of Time $41,083,108
Dec 19, 2002 Antwone Fisher $21,078,145 *Awards movie with $13M budget
Feb 15, 2002 John Q. $71,026,631
Oct 5, 2001 Training Day $76,261,036
Sep 29, 2000 Remember the Titans $115,719,751
Dec 29, 1999 The Hurricane $50,699,241 Awards movie with $50M budget
Nov 5, 1999 The Bone Collector $66,488,090
Nov 6, 1998 The Siege $40,934,175 $70M budget

Author:  Rev [ Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:51 pm ]
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WW? ;) absolutely

Author:  Algren [ Fri Mar 17, 2023 6:10 pm ]
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Interesting. Denzel and Barry Keoghan. Hmm.

Author:  O [ Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:29 pm ]
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Ridley Scott's last film with Denzel, American Gangster which also happened to star an actor named...Russell Crowe!

Scott and Crowe also worked on Robin Hood, Body of Lies and A Good Year.

I have a hard time seeing Crowe not have some type of involvement (Ghost, dream, or flashback) with those other two there. A reunion especially for Crowe's marquee film is just too good a chance to pass up. The fans will also love seeing a glimpse of him here even if his character is no longer alive.

I'm intrigued with him in it. This feels very much out of left field for Denzel but here's hoping its a great story if he was willing to jump into a sequel to such a well received original missing its previous lead star.

Here's additional details from Deadline. Sounds very much like he's going to be the new villain perhaps after Phoenix? Sounds like a juicy role that could get him lots of awards buzz.

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Leaders pushed hard for a star for the other major role in the film. When the offer was first presented it was unknown whether he would actually do it; Washington is known for his great taste in projects and doesn’t sign up for anything. But after reading the script, sources close to the project said he was excited about the bad-ass role Scott had written with him in mind.

Author:  O [ Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:14 am ]
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Gladiator 2 is rumored to have a Superbowl spot.

If it does end up happening, I feel like the football crowd of 20 and 30 somethings from 25 years ago is going to be excited for it.

An ad costs $7M this year so hope it can live up to the hype.

Author:  Magic Mike [ Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:51 am ]
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I don't see why it won't make over 100 Million. I have a feeling it's going to be good and do well at the box office. Hopefully I'm right. I blind bought the original in 4K a few years ago but still haven't watched it. I was never that interested in it, but I figured I'd buy it and give it a shot eventually. Now that I'm very interested in the sequel thanks to Paul Mescal being in it, I'll definitely get around to watching the first this year. Now I'm just waiting for the chance to watch it in a theater. I'm sure that will happen before the second comes out.

Author:  O [ Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:21 pm ]
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I feel even more bullish on this one. Marley was completely critic proof when moviegoers wanted to see a movie.

Even without Crowe, the idea of Gladiators, Roman times, Ridley Scott, Denzel, Pedro, Thanksgiving launch, awards season, big nostalgia is going to be huge on this, especially when a trailer comes out.

Denzel is any movie seems to give it a floor of $70M+ so feels like all the other factors will turn this into a big hit. I can see it play well across demos. A shame not to have Crowe involved but if it has a fresh feel like what Twisters achieved in its first trailer it's going to really spike interest.

Seeing $200M+ on this and possible $1B global.

Author:  Shack [ Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:26 pm ]
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This seems boom or bust to me

Author:  MadGez [ Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:58 pm ]
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O wrote:
I feel even more bullish on this one. Marley was completely critic proof when moviegoers wanted to see a movie.

Even without Crowe, the idea of Gladiators, Roman times, Ridley Scott, Denzel, Pedro, Thanksgiving launch, awards season, big nostalgia is going to be huge on this, especially when a trailer comes out.

Denzel is any movie seems to give it a floor of $70M+ so feels like all the other factors will turn this into a big hit. I can see it play well across demos. A shame not to have Crowe involved but if it has a fresh feel like what Twisters achieved in its first trailer it's going to really spike interest.

Seeing $200M+ on this and possible $1B global.


Yes, I just can't see how it dips below $200m seeing that the original adjusts to $366m. Yes $366m a quarter of decade later doesn't seem that big, but this film gained most of its audience on home video/DVD.

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