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Author: | Rev [ Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
pookpooi wrote: IndieWire has pick a side, a bold statement. #YASSSSSSSSsssssss! |
Author: | publicenemy#1 [ Sun Jan 22, 2023 2:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
2 billion, wahooooo Idk if Avatar will have enough steam to make another $120mish million to beat Maverick but I guess it depends how it does after Ant-Man comes out. |
Author: | Algren [ Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:29 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
Where does it finish? China is now dead for it. It will overtake Infinity War and The Force Awakens, but I cannot see it reaching Titanic. |
Author: | O [ Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
Congrats to Avatar which passed $600M officially yesterday on Day 40! Avatar: The Way of Water $2,000,000 -28% $601,990,204 40 I will point out there, is there some creative accounting in the Monday reported # which left Avatar at $599,990,204? The $600M announcement probably would have gotten lost in the Oscar news yesterday while today the studio can push the announcement as a start to its post nomination Oscar campaign. Just looks very coincidental that Avatar was at $599.99M from the daily yesterday. Monday # reported: $1,580,745 ($9,796 short of $600M or 0.62%) |
Author: | Algren [ Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
O wrote: Congrats to Avatar which passed $600M officially yesterday on Day 40! Avatar: The Way of Water $2,000,000 -28% $601,990,204 40 I will point out there, is there some creative accounting in the Monday reported # which left Avatar at $599,990,204? The $600M announcement probably would have gotten lost in the Oscar news yesterday while today the studio can push the announcement as a start to its post nomination Oscar campaign. Just looks very coincidental that Avatar was at $599.99M from the daily yesterday. And that was how many million dollars Terminator 2 made domestically! This is definitely not a coincidence! |
Author: | pookpooi [ Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:35 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
Top Gun Maverick is getting an Oscars re-release, around 500 theatres. While I still think the Way of Water can surpass Maverick's original run, I don't think it can surpass a total number with re-release. So how do we go from here? I suggest we compare only between original run. That means if the Way of Water gets more than $718,732,821 in its first run then it wins domestic game, how about that? |
Author: | Rev [ Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:51 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
pookpooi wrote: Top Gun Maverick is getting an Oscars re-release, around 500 theatres. While I still think the Way of Water can surpass Maverick's original run, I don't think it can surpass a total number with re-release. So how do we go from here? I suggest we compare only between original run. That means if the Way of Water gets more than $718,732,821 in its first run then it wins domestic game, how about that? you're assuming TGM rerelease is going to make over $20m domestic. I don't even think it'll make 10 million. we compare it all. original runs & lifetime runs....because Avatar 2 itself will get a rerelease in the coming years. |
Author: | Algren [ Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
So there's 38 days left for Avatar: The Way of Water to reach its predecessor, and 33 days to reach Maverick. Its day 42 was $1.44 million, so it probably won't get anywhere near them. CONSECUTIVE DAYS OVER $1 MILLION: 101 Titanic 80 Avatar 80 E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial 75 Top Gun: Maverick 61 Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace 59 Finding Nemo 54 Back to the Future 54 Ghostbusters 54 Jurassic Park 54 Shrek 2 52 Aladdin (2019) 52 The Avengers 52 Black Panther 52 The Hangover 52 Incredibles 2 52 Shrek 52 Toy Story 4 48 The Passion of the Christ 47 Coco 47 Frozen 47 Moana 47 Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl 46 Batman 45 Avengers: Infinity War 45 The Blind Side 45 Bridesmaids 45 Cars 45 Frozen II 45 The Hunger Games: Catching Fire 45 Inside Out 45 Jurassic World 45 The Sixth Sense 45 Spider-Man 45 Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens 45 Toy Story 3 45 Up 45 Wonder Woman 43 Independence Day 42 Avatar: The Way of Water 41 Despicable Me 41 Finding Dory 41 The Secret Life of Pets 41 Spider-Man: Far from Home 41 Terminator 2: Judgment Day 40 The Dark Knight 40 Despicable Me 2 40 Despicable Me 3 40 Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle 40 The Jungle Book (2016) 40 Minions: The Rise of Gru 40 Spider-Man 2 39 A Star Is Born (2018) 39 Iron Man 39 Joker 38 American Sniper 38 Apollo 13 38 Avengers: Endgame 38 Beauty and the Beast (2017) 38 Bruce Almighty 38 The Dark Knight Rises 38 Deadpool 38 Elvis 38 Inception 38 Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom 38 Knocked Up 38 Kung Fu Panda 38 The Lion King (2019) 38 Maleficent 38 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest 38 The Proposal 38 Ratatouille 38 Saving Private Ryan 38 Shrek the Third 38 Spider-Man: Homecoming 38 Spider-Man: No Way Home 38 Wedding Crashers 38 Zootopia |
Author: | O [ Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:47 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
Avatar is at $3.57M for Friday (-24%). Should be able to do a $15M 7th weekend and $620M by the end of the weekend to move up 2 spots to #11 on the all time domestic list. |
Author: | Thegun [ Sat Jan 28, 2023 12:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
Might be able to hit 52 days over 1 million, I think it’ll depend on Wed drop whether it’ll make it through next weekend. Avatar should finish just above 650 million. About a 90% retention in box office and about 70% retention in tickets sold. Pretty great overall, and it held well, it could have just as easily did 475. Maybe the awards push will give it a little more |
Author: | Flava'd vs The World [ Sat Jan 28, 2023 12:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
Crazy that Endgame has the same amount of days as Knocked Up and The Proposal. |
Author: | Thegun [ Sat Jan 28, 2023 3:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
Crazier is Ghostbusters and back to the future off of 13 and 11 million openings. How the hell do you not dip under opening week? Crazy leggy runs |
Author: | Algren [ Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
It has reached Avengers: Infinity War at 45 days over a million. The next major milestone is The Avengers on 52 days. CONSECUTIVE DAYS OVER $1 MILLION: 101 Titanic 80 Avatar 80 E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial 75 Top Gun: Maverick 61 Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace 59 Finding Nemo 54 Back to the Future 54 Ghostbusters 54 Jurassic Park 54 Shrek 2 52 Aladdin (2019) 52 The Avengers 52 Black Panther 52 The Hangover 52 Incredibles 2 52 Shrek 52 Toy Story 4 48 The Passion of the Christ 47 Coco 47 Frozen 47 Moana 47 Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl 46 Batman 45 Avatar: The Way of Water 45 Avengers: Infinity War 45 The Blind Side 45 Bridesmaids 45 Cars 45 Frozen II 45 The Hunger Games: Catching Fire 45 Inside Out 45 Jurassic World 45 The Sixth Sense 45 Spider-Man 45 Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens 45 Toy Story 3 45 Up 45 Wonder Woman 43 Independence Day 41 Despicable Me 41 Finding Dory 41 The Secret Life of Pets 41 Spider-Man: Far from Home 41 Terminator 2: Judgment Day 40 The Dark Knight 40 Despicable Me 2 40 Despicable Me 3 40 Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle 40 The Jungle Book (2016) 40 Minions: The Rise of Gru 40 Spider-Man 2 39 A Star Is Born (2018) 39 Iron Man 39 Joker 38 American Sniper 38 Apollo 13 38 Avengers: Endgame 38 Beauty and the Beast (2017) 38 Bruce Almighty 38 The Dark Knight Rises 38 Deadpool 38 Elvis 38 Inception 38 Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom 38 Knocked Up 38 Kung Fu Panda 38 The Lion King (2019) 38 Maleficent 38 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest 38 The Proposal 38 Ratatouille 38 Saving Private Ryan 38 Shrek the Third 38 Spider-Man: Homecoming 38 Spider-Man: No Way Home 38 Wedding Crashers 38 Zootopia |
Author: | Algren [ Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
Well it only made $1,078,480 on Wednesday so I doubt it makes it to a 49th day over $1 million. But let's see. Fingers crossed. CONSECUTIVE DAYS OVER $1 MILLION: 101 Titanic 80 Avatar 80 E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial 75 Top Gun: Maverick 61 Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace 59 Finding Nemo 54 Back to the Future 54 Ghostbusters 54 Jurassic Park 54 Shrek 2 52 Aladdin (2019) 52 The Avengers 52 Black Panther 52 The Hangover 52 Incredibles 2 52 Shrek 52 Toy Story 4 48 Avatar: The Way of Water 48 The Passion of the Christ 47 Coco 47 Frozen 47 Moana 47 Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl 46 Batman 45 Avengers: Infinity War 45 The Blind Side 45 Bridesmaids 45 Cars 45 Frozen II 45 The Hunger Games: Catching Fire 45 Inside Out 45 Jurassic World 45 The Sixth Sense 45 Spider-Man 45 Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens 45 Toy Story 3 45 Up 45 Wonder Woman 43 Independence Day 41 Despicable Me 41 Finding Dory 41 The Secret Life of Pets 41 Spider-Man: Far from Home 41 Terminator 2: Judgment Day 40 The Dark Knight 40 Despicable Me 2 40 Despicable Me 3 40 Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle 40 The Jungle Book (2016) 40 Minions: The Rise of Gru 40 Spider-Man 2 39 A Star Is Born (2018) 39 Iron Man 39 Joker 38 American Sniper 38 Apollo 13 38 Avengers: Endgame 38 Beauty and the Beast (2017) 38 Bruce Almighty 38 The Dark Knight Rises 38 Deadpool 38 Elvis 38 Inception 38 Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom 38 Knocked Up 38 Kung Fu Panda 38 The Lion King (2019) 38 Maleficent 38 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest 38 The Proposal 38 Ratatouille 38 Saving Private Ryan 38 Shrek the Third 38 Spider-Man: Homecoming 38 Spider-Man: No Way Home 38 Wedding Crashers 38 Zootopia |
Author: | Thegun [ Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:09 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
I think it’ll do 51, I can’t see Super Bowl Sunday being good for a 3 hour plus action movie. |
Author: | zwackerm [ Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:22 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
Even with like a 70% sunday drop it will do 1m on sunday |
Author: | Rev [ Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
Thegun wrote: I think it’ll do 51, I can’t see Super Bowl Sunday being good for a 3 hour plus action movie. Super Bowl Sunday is 2/12 |
Author: | pookpooi [ Fri Feb 03, 2023 1:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
Studio estimates $1M so we'll have to wait for an actual (in a few hours) for Thursday. If it get above $1M then I'm confident it'll have at least 52 days consecutive, but this whole million daily stat is more of an psychological than objective, there is no reason why one million is more significant than other number. |
Author: | pookpooi [ Fri Feb 03, 2023 3:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
Update actual Thursday: $1,005,502 Guaranteed at least 52 consecutive days over $1M. |
Author: | Algren [ Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
Nice! |
Author: | Algren [ Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
Now we're into the real business end of its run. Can it eek out another day? It needs a 14.8% week-to-week drop on Monday, and I can't see that happening. It hasn't had a drop that low for about three weeks. CONSECUTIVE DAYS OVER $1 MILLION: 101 Titanic 80 Avatar 80 E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial 75 Top Gun: Maverick 61 Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace 59 Finding Nemo 54 Back to the Future 54 Ghostbusters 54 Jurassic Park 54 Shrek 2 52 Aladdin (2019) 52 Avatar: The Way of Water 52 The Avengers 52 Black Panther 52 The Hangover 52 Incredibles 2 52 Shrek 52 Toy Story 4 48 The Passion of the Christ 47 Coco 47 Frozen 47 Moana 47 Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl 46 Batman 45 Avengers: Infinity War 45 The Blind Side 45 Bridesmaids 45 Cars 45 Frozen II 45 The Hunger Games: Catching Fire 45 Inside Out 45 Jurassic World 45 The Sixth Sense 45 Spider-Man 45 Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens 45 Toy Story 3 45 Up 45 Wonder Woman 43 Independence Day 41 Despicable Me 41 Finding Dory 41 The Secret Life of Pets 41 Spider-Man: Far from Home 41 Terminator 2: Judgment Day 40 The Dark Knight 40 Despicable Me 2 40 Despicable Me 3 40 Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle 40 The Jungle Book (2016) 40 Minions: The Rise of Gru 40 Spider-Man 2 39 A Star Is Born (2018) 39 Iron Man 39 Joker 38 American Sniper 38 Apollo 13 38 Avengers: Endgame 38 Beauty and the Beast (2017) 38 Bruce Almighty 38 The Dark Knight Rises 38 Deadpool 38 Elvis 38 Inception 38 Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom 38 Knocked Up 38 Kung Fu Panda 38 The Lion King (2019) 38 Maleficent 38 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest 38 The Proposal 38 Ratatouille 38 Saving Private Ryan 38 Shrek the Third 38 Spider-Man: Homecoming 38 Spider-Man: No Way Home 38 Wedding Crashers 38 Zootopia |
Author: | Rev [ Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
Rev wrote: Avatar: The Way of Water will take both domestic AND worldwide numbers Okay having doubts creeping in that it won’t take the domestic crown |
Author: | Cynosure [ Sun Feb 05, 2023 4:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
Rev wrote: Rev wrote: Avatar: The Way of Water will take both domestic AND worldwide numbers Okay having doubts creeping in that it won’t take the domestic crown Better late than never. |
Author: | DP07 [ Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:38 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
O wrote: Sorry soagg. Don't want to contribute to a feeling of celebrating a film underperforming. It would have been amazing if WF, Avatar and TGM all overperformed. My interest rooting for TGM is it's not like a run we've ever seen before. From a box office perspective, Avatar 2 doing a billion domestic would have been amazing. Not to downplay the great work Cameron and team put on in but he's had lots of iconic moments "being the king of the world" being #1 domestic for 18 of the last 25 years domestic and 23/25 globally. It's nice to cheer for an underdog like TGM winning the year. Agreed though, box office success isn't a fixed pie where some movies have to fail for others to succeed. It's ok to root for one movie to win over another, especially if it plays into an underdog story type run. I can't deny I'm pro TGM winning the year but I'm also pro box office industry growth so not great to see Avatar struggling in some global markets either. A billion domestic? Sorry, that’s insane. The original already did as well as could be rationally expected. Sure, it might not have been as much of a “fluke” as others, but still, it was extremely difficult, if not absolutely impossible to replicate. |
Author: | DP07 [ Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Avatar 2 vs. Top Gun Maverick |
O wrote: Congrats to Avatar which passed $600M officially yesterday on Day 40! Avatar: The Way of Water $2,000,000 -28% $601,990,204 40 I will point out there, is there some creative accounting in the Monday reported # which left Avatar at $599,990,204? The $600M announcement probably would have gotten lost in the Oscar news yesterday while today the studio can push the announcement as a start to its post nomination Oscar campaign. Just looks very coincidental that Avatar was at $599.99M from the daily yesterday. Monday # reported: $1,580,745 ($9,796 short of $600M or 0.62%) Unless, perhaps, Cameron got hold of the infinity stones …No, that would have to mean he’s almost certainly involved in the Titan submersible implosion, and even if he had the infinity stones, I can’t possibly imagine Cameron being that good of an actor …he looked genuinely concerned in the CNN interview. |
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