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 Lord of The Rings - 20 Years Later
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring opened today exactly 20 years ago.
6 movies later, billions of dollars, hundreds of awards, Amazon tv series, etc.
How long till we get a rebooted original series or 3 new sequels? Too much $$$ involved. Maybe 2031? 2041?
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SolC9
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O wrote: The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring opened today exactly 20 years ago.
6 movies later, billions of dollars, hundreds of awards, Amazon tv series, etc.
How long till we get a rebooted original series or 3 new sequels? Too much $$$ involved. Maybe 2031? 2041? The first three are masterpieces and shouldn't be touched. Beyond that, let's see how the Amazon series goes.
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Jack Sparrow
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Agreed they are such brilliant movies it will be difficult to top them up. Plus now that we have the series maybe a reboot will not happen on the big screen.
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MadGez
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SolC9 wrote: O wrote: The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring opened today exactly 20 years ago.
6 movies later, billions of dollars, hundreds of awards, Amazon tv series, etc.
How long till we get a rebooted original series or 3 new sequels? Too much $$$ involved. Maybe 2031? 2041? The first three are masterpieces and shouldn't be touched. Beyond that, let's see how the Amazon series goes. Agree. The first three were just an amazing experience. Perhaps the best ever collective cinematic experience. They still hold up incredibly well and feel more epic than anything since. Let's see how the Amazon series fairs - though I cant see it capturing the zeitgeist as the LOTR trilogy did. I feel it will sit somewhere between WOT and GOT in quality but is that enough.
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JustLurking
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Amazing trilogy. I wish I could've seen them in theaters.
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Corpse
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The use of practical effects really helps these films stand the test of time. They look better today than The Hobbit Trilogy does. Heck, I'd say they look better than most films in the last few years too. Besides some moments in Fellowship where green screen is pretty obvious (mostly in Moria), there are very rare moments throughout the trilogy of noticeable CGI due to the use of practical effects.
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Jiffy
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Corpse wrote: The use of practical effects really helps these films stand the test of time. They look better today than The Hobbit Trilogy does. Heck, I'd say they look better than most films in the last few years too. Besides some moments in Fellowship where green screen is pretty obvious (mostly in Moria), there are very rare moments throughout the trilogy of noticeable CGI due to the use of practical effects. Yeah, too bad that lesson wasn't taken to heart for The Hobbit, but turning that into a trilogy in the first place was so ill-conceived and you could tell Jackson was just doing it out of obligation to the fans by the point they got around to filming it.
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MadGez
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JustLurking wrote: Amazing trilogy. I wish I could've seen them in theaters. Have a look around and see if any theatres near you are playing these as part of the 20 year anniversary.
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Jack Sparrow
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MadGez wrote: JustLurking wrote: Amazing trilogy. I wish I could've seen them in theaters. Have a look around and see if any theatres near you are playing these as part of the 20 year anniversary. I keep hoping the IMAX does a trilogy, but its not very common in SG 
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MadGez
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Jack Sparrow wrote: MadGez wrote: JustLurking wrote: Amazing trilogy. I wish I could've seen them in theaters. Have a look around and see if any theatres near you are playing these as part of the 20 year anniversary. I keep hoping the IMAX does a trilogy, but its not very common in SG  Yes IMAX would have been great. They showed them here back in April: https://imaxmelbourne.com.au/movie/lord ... esentationI would not have been able to sit for the whole trilogy though (as much as I'd love to!)
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Barrabás
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Have not been topped yet as an epic film franchise and still hold up perfectly well and probably always will, the CGI is good enough. No need to ever make another because it will not compare.
They need to release an HBO Max exclusive 'Director's Cut' of The Hobbit as two films only as originally intended. If they can do it for the flop Justice League movie they can do it for this considering they were actually successful.
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Corpse
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Jiffy wrote: Corpse wrote: The use of practical effects really helps these films stand the test of time. They look better today than The Hobbit Trilogy does. Heck, I'd say they look better than most films in the last few years too. Besides some moments in Fellowship where green screen is pretty obvious (mostly in Moria), there are very rare moments throughout the trilogy of noticeable CGI due to the use of practical effects. Yeah, too bad that lesson wasn't taken to heart for The Hobbit, but turning that into a trilogy in the first place was so ill-conceived and you could tell Jackson was just doing it out of obligation to the fans by the point they got around to filming it. Not excusing Jackson for going all-in with the CGI, but CGI has become so dominant in the industry, I don't even think production companies even use much practical effects anymore. I watched the Pirates of the Caribbean recently and was pretty amazed by how well the first three still look for another example. And honestly, some of today's CGI looks no better or even worse than 10-15 years ago (unless you're comparing full-on CGI examples), in my opinion, because I think they mostly ONLY create characters, creatures, special effects like fire or water, and locations using it. It's being used as a base or core rather than a means of support. If that makes sense. Take Davy Jones in Pirates of the Caribbean. He looks just as good/better than just about anything even today due to how much effort the actor put into the physical role for the special effects department to work with. It was more of a 50/50 effort. Today? He'd easily be almost fully CGI (if not entirely).
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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SolC9
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MadGez wrote: SolC9 wrote: O wrote: The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring opened today exactly 20 years ago.
6 movies later, billions of dollars, hundreds of awards, Amazon tv series, etc.
How long till we get a rebooted original series or 3 new sequels? Too much $$$ involved. Maybe 2031? 2041? The first three are masterpieces and shouldn't be touched. Beyond that, let's see how the Amazon series goes. Agree. The first three were just an amazing experience. Perhaps the best ever collective cinematic experience. They still hold up incredibly well and feel more epic than anything since. Let's see how the Amazon series fairs - though I cant see it capturing the zeitgeist as the LOTR trilogy did. I feel it will sit somewhere between WOT and GOT in quality but is that enough. Wheel of Time is very good quality, and Game of Thrones was excellent quality. If the Amazon LOTR series falls in that range I'd be satisfied.
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Barrabás
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Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:53 pm Posts: 6325 Location: la gran casa de la esquina
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Corpse wrote: Jiffy wrote: Corpse wrote: The use of practical effects really helps these films stand the test of time. They look better today than The Hobbit Trilogy does. Heck, I'd say they look better than most films in the last few years too. Besides some moments in Fellowship where green screen is pretty obvious (mostly in Moria), there are very rare moments throughout the trilogy of noticeable CGI due to the use of practical effects. Yeah, too bad that lesson wasn't taken to heart for The Hobbit, but turning that into a trilogy in the first place was so ill-conceived and you could tell Jackson was just doing it out of obligation to the fans by the point they got around to filming it. Not excusing Jackson for going all-in with the CGI, but CGI has become so dominant in the industry, I don't even think production companies even use much practical effects anymore. I watched the Pirates of the Caribbean recently and was pretty amazed by how well the first three still look for another example. And honestly, some of today's CGI looks no better or even worse than 10-15 years ago (unless you're comparing full-on CGI examples), in my opinion, because I think they mostly ONLY create characters, creatures, special effects like fire or water, and locations using it. It's being used as a base or core rather than a means of support. If that makes sense. Take Davy Jones in Pirates of the Caribbean. He looks just as good/better than just about anything even today due to how much effort the actor put into the physical role for the special effects department to work with. It was more of a 50/50 effort. Today? He'd easily be almost fully CGI (if not entirely). Davy Jones in Dead Man's Chest in particular is still one of the most impressive CGI creations ever. He looks SO real in some shots it's unnerving. 
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