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publicenemy#1
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 18878 Location: San Diego
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Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
For this club to happen Shang-Chi will have to beat BB3's $204,417,855. No film has hit the mark $200m mark since.
For this to happen I think it would have to open around Black Widow. Seems like a tough order but f it. And Venom moving will help. It literally has the whole month to itself. Dear Evan Hansen may do well but that's at the end of the month.
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Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:42 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37152 Location: The Graveyard
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
Thinking ~$50-60 million / ~$150 million+. But certainly want it to earn as much as possible.
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Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:30 pm |
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 23782 Location: Classified
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
I have it pegged at $55M opening. Normal times probably would land in the $80-90M range.
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Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:35 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
Normally I'd think it's a hard sell in North America but you guys seem pretty confident in it so I trust your take on it.
I know they already used a few of the recognizable asian actors for Mulan but I wish this cast was a little more stacked, not sure I'm feeling either the lead or villain. I guess it's hard because there's too many of the recognizable asian actors who are not Chinese, Henry Golding and Steven Yeun would probably be two of the best guys to give a superhero franchise to and they're Malaysian/Korean, even John Cho might have been an option and he's Korean also. Jackie Chan getting in on this as a mentor or villain would've been nice.
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Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:52 pm |
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publicenemy#1
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 18878 Location: San Diego
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
I think under normal circumstances this would've done $100m+. I think strong asian support would've happened Crazy Rich Asians style. Now I bet a lot of that community may be cautious cause of the pandemic. Will be interesting to see the demographic breakdown.
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Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:55 pm |
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 23782 Location: Classified
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
Jackie Chan definitely would have brought some much needed starpower. I also thought they cast Donnie Yen but can’t find him on the cast list. Also, do not use Google or IMDB to look at the full cast list. Spoiler city.
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Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:57 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37152 Location: The Graveyard
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
Just avoid IMBD all-together now. I don't know when they changed it (had to be in the last 6-8 weeks), but their new layout sucks. Looks like a streaming app now. Not that a steaming app layout is *bad*, but not exactly useful when looking for information.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:22 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36923
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
I think it has potential because it didn't have streaming and the market is ready for a blockbuster after a dry summer other than sprinkled medium sized hits. I see this opening just below Black Widow and then have legs to go there.
Btw the lead has worked in Kim's Convenience a Canadian sitcom. There are bigger Asian names for sure but this is how you build starpower plus MCU and Disney brands are so huge they don't need big starpower.
For this club I'll join.
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Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:28 pm |
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Keyser Söze
Quality is a great business plan
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
PS around half of BW. I dont see this coming close to that in OW. Probably around 50m OW. No chance it has that big a legs with a 45 day run and weekdays not being strong in september. Plus this will be fan driven and so 2nd weekend drop wont be great. 2.5x is good for this. So I would say 50/125.
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Steve
Indiana Jones IV
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
This should be aiming for half of BB4L’s total.
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Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:27 am |
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publicenemy#1
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 18878 Location: San Diego
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
If this was on premiere access I would get sub-130m predictions but idk, I feel like this can do better.
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Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:58 am |
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zwackerm
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
I think the ads just have not looked like anything special, without the Marvel brand it would do Snake Eyes numbers. 55m would be a solid start, and anything 60+ would be great. I think it can get a 2.7X+ multiplier too without streaming and being an original.
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
Flava'd vs The World wrote: Jackie Chan definitely would have brought some much needed starpower. I also thought they cast Donnie Yen but can’t find him on the cast list. Also, do not use Google or IMDB to look at the full cast list. Spoiler city. What's the spoiler, I didn't see anything. Abomination has been known since the second trailer.
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 23782 Location: Classified
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
zwackerm wrote: Flava'd vs The World wrote: Jackie Chan definitely would have brought some much needed starpower. I also thought they cast Donnie Yen but can’t find him on the cast list. Also, do not use Google or IMDB to look at the full cast list. Spoiler city. What's the spoiler, I didn't see anything. Abomination has been known since the second trailer. I didn’t know about Tim Roth or Benedict Wong.
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Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:33 am |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
Flava'd vs The World wrote: zwackerm wrote: Flava'd vs The World wrote: Jackie Chan definitely would have brought some much needed starpower. I also thought they cast Donnie Yen but can’t find him on the cast list. Also, do not use Google or IMDB to look at the full cast list. Spoiler city. What's the spoiler, I didn't see anything. Abomination has been known since the second trailer. I didn’t know about Tim Roth or Benedict Wong. They are both in trailer 2!
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lilmac
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
I'll up my prediction and say $53M, based on what I'm hearing and seeing. It'll probably end up somewhere in the $130s.
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Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:38 pm |
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
I think it will open 50-60m and leg it to 160-180m
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Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:47 am |
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publicenemy#1
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
Think this is happening
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Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:39 pm |
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MadGez
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Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 22680 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
Yes this is looking great now! Good call
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Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:13 pm |
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Steve
Indiana Jones IV
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
Steve wrote: This should be aiming for half of BB4L’s total. *...in its first week? I’m pleased to have misjudged this one. Nice to see it doing well.
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Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:44 pm |
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32104 Location: the last free city
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
Congratulations
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Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:35 pm |
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publicenemy#1
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
Looks like this will happen by Sunday. Yaaaay Suck it premiere access
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Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:04 am |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: Shang-Chi>Bad Boys for Life club
Wait I thought only TSS' BO sucked
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