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Author:  zwackerm [ Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:09 am ]
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I think it’s pretty clear that theaters will survive in some fashion. The main difference will be a lot more high profile straight to streaming releases, as evidenced by the recent WB and Disney announcements. But I think theaters could return to the pre pandemic popularity after a decade or so if studios/theaters play their cards right.

Author:  lilmac [ Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:38 am ]
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There is a long history of short memories. The rebound will start much sooner, 2022 but that’s IF studios revert back to the old exclusivity windows. If it remains common practice to send big budget movie to streaming after say, week 4, then boxoffice revenues will forever be handicapped.

Author:  j_forest23 [ Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:32 pm ]
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publicenemy#1 wrote:
... they're not turning back lol. You know how much of a PR nightmare that'd be?

I do think this is gonna backfire. Good for consumers saving money, horrible for Hollywood. If Disney follows suit then idk.


They abso-fucking-lutely should turn the fuck back. This is going to put movie theaters out of business. God bless Timmy Chalamet for making a statement with that Legendary hoodie :yes:

Author:  Jedi Master Carr [ Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:05 pm ]
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I do think they will survive. It is hard for us to see things right now. 1918 flu epidemic was much worse and then the roaring 20s followed and people seemed to move on.

Author:  Corpse [ Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:19 pm ]
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We also need to consider that many people in the U.S. don't have the funds to take either themselves or their families out to the movies right now. The Government, as of this weekend, isn't providing ANY financial support for those that lost their jobs at no fault of their own right now. They were beyond careless and let unemployment benefits lapse during the holidays of all times. And there's been no relief for businesses (theaters included) in 9 months.

Going to the movies is far from the minds of many in the country right now.

Author:  Magnus [ Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:01 am ]
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bump

Author:  Magnus [ Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:03 am ]
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its never going to be the same again and we need to accept this sooner than later. theaters will still exist but the theatrical model that we have had our whole lives is dead.

Author:  Jack Sparrow [ Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:12 am ]
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RIP indeed...

Author:  Excel [ Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:39 am ]
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Nope. THE BATMAN will save it.

Author:  MadGez [ Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:30 pm ]
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Yes - the days of annual $10+ billion domestic BO hauls are certainly over.

But I do believe the box office will settle to a new overall $$ level (perhaps half of current) where revenue is more evenly split between theatrical and home streaming.

How it impacts film budgets, types of films made, revenue sharing % with exhibitors, viability of some theatre chains etc is up in the air and TBC

Author:  zwackerm [ Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:37 pm ]
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It's too early to declare this, but if things can't turn around in the fall/winter. yikes

The real scary things are the drops moreso than the openings.

Author:  MadGez [ Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:44 pm ]
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zwackerm wrote:
It's too early to declare this, but if things can't turn around in the fall/winter. yikes

The real scary things are the drops moreso than the openings.


Yes - the drops have been alarming.

Author:  MadGez [ Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:44 pm ]
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Here are all the wide releases post summer. Unlike Summer - this is a solid full slate.

The September releases may be OK but don't hold out much hope for anything from October onwards....



September

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
Clifford the Big Red Dog
Copshop
Dear Evan Hansen
Venom 2

October

October 1
The Addams Family 2
Hotel Transylvania: Transformania
The Many Saints of Newark

October 8
No Time to Die

October 15
The Last Duel
Halloween Kills

October 22
Dune
Jackass Forever
Ron's Gone Wrong
The French Dispatch (Limited but worth noting)

October 29
Last Night in Soho
Antlers

November 5
Eternals

November 11
Ghostbusters: Afterlife

November 19
Top Gun: Maverick
King Richard

November 24
Encanto
Resident Evil sequel

December 3
Nightmare Alley
Wolf

December 10
American Underdog
West Side Story

December 17
Spider-man: No Way Home

December 22
Matrix 4
Sing 2
A Journal for Jordan
The King's Man
The Nightingale

Author:  Jiffy [ Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:29 pm ]
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Magnus wrote:
its never going to be the same again and we need to accept this sooner than later. theaters will still exist but the theatrical model that we have had our whole lives is dead.


I'm still clinging to a bit of denial cuz why not.

Fuckin studios, man. Having the industry propped up by MCU and live-action remakes was only going to be sustainable for so long, I guess.

Author:  Jedi Master Carr [ Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:17 am ]
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MadGez wrote:
Here are all the wide releases post summer. Unlike Summer - this is a solid full slate.

The September releases may be OK but don't hold out much hope for anything from October onwards....



September

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
Clifford the Big Red Dog
Copshop
Dear Evan Hansen
Venom 2

October

October 1
The Addams Family 2
Hotel Transylvania: Transformania
The Many Saints of Newark

October 8
No Time to Die

October 15
The Last Duel
Halloween Kills

October 22
Dune
Jackass Forever
Ron's Gone Wrong
The French Dispatch (Limited but worth noting)

October 29
Last Night in Soho
Antlers

November 5
Eternals

November 11
Ghostbusters: Afterlife

November 19
Top Gun: Maverick
King Richard

November 24
Encanto
Resident Evil sequel

December 3
Nightmare Alley
Wolf

December 10
American Underdog
West Side Story

December 17
Spider-man: No Way Home

December 22
Matrix 4
Sing 2
A Journal for Jordan
The King's Man
The Nightingale


I am assuming you mistyped because the October- December releases look better than this summer, Now the virus could change things but on paper, Spiderman No Way Home, No Time to Die, Ghostbusters Afterlife, Top Gun: Maverick, Sing 2, Dune, and Halloween Kills all look great.
I mean I am not sure about Matrix 4 and West Side Story, but those were iffy projects before the pandemic.

Author:  Shack [ Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:12 pm ]
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You can't really judge whether things will be the same again until the rest of the world is the same and covid is an afterthought.

Author:  Jiffy [ Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:13 pm ]
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Maybe we can pray for Jim Cameron to come through again and give the industry another shot in the arm.

Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:39 pm ]
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Jiffy wrote:
Maybe we can pray for Jim Cameron to come through again and give the industry another shot in the arm.
Avatar 2, 3, 4 and 5 should be ready in time for the next plague!

Author:  Jack Sparrow [ Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:12 pm ]
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Flava'd vs The World wrote:
Jiffy wrote:
Maybe we can pray for Jim Cameron to come through again and give the industry another shot in the arm.
Avatar 2, 3, 4 and 5 should be ready in time for the next plague!


And he will beat that plague as well.

Author:  j_forest23 [ Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:55 am ]
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I really don’t fucking care about marvel movies and whatever, how about dramas and comedies in theaters? No reason they can’t go there not everything has to be Netflix movies, they look relatively low budget on there and not mid budget like theater movies

Author:  zwackerm [ Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:23 am ]
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j_forest23 wrote:
I really don’t fucking care about marvel movies and whatever, how about dramas and comedies in theaters? No reason they can’t go there not everything has to be Netflix movies, they look relatively low budget on there and not mid budget like theater movies


More and more will be back in theaters, be patient! look at December! lots of dramas for oscar season

Author:  Jack Sparrow [ Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:39 am ]
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Indeed movies are just starting to find their footing. I'm sure medium sized movies will eventually find their way into theaters.

Author:  zwackerm [ Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:02 am ]
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Considering Netflix has been experimenting with 1-2 week theatrical windows this year for Army of the Dead and Red Notice, would not shock me if they started adapting a full theatrical window in the future.

Author:  lilmac [ Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:46 pm ]
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I saw a quote somewhere by Netflix that they want to change the perception of movie watching from ‘going to the movies’ to watching movies at home. They want your muscle memory trained to think of Netflix first then movie theaters when you decide to watch a film. Even though they can make money releasing feature films in theater it may not be strategically advantageous to do so.

Author:  Jack Sparrow [ Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:02 pm ]
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I do think Netflix's strategy has been evolving from home-viewing to coexist with theaters though they might change it again. One thing I believe COVID helped is even after a huge existential crisis for theaters they are coming back strong.

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