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Author:  Nazgul9 [ Tue May 10, 2005 3:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Monday numbers
1 Kingdom of Heaven $1,703,271 -67% (-) $21,339,267
2 House of Wax $954,396 -65% (-) $13,031,632
3 Crash $902,512 -66% (-) $10,009,583
4 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy $712,757 -74% (-50%) $36,494,855
5 The Interpreter $521,555 -77% (-39%) $54,925,420
6 XXX: State of the Union $342,250 -77% (-56%) $21,244,834
7 The Amityville Horror (2005) $303,201 -64% (-48%) $60,611,654
8 Sahara $213,686 (-81%) (-37%) $61,878,227
9 A Lot Like Love $209,747 -75% (-30%) $19,121,756
10 Fever Pitch $115,929 -83% (-35%) $39,364,385

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Author:  Nazgul9 [ Tue May 10, 2005 3:26 pm ]
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Good monday drop for KoH.
Author:  The Scottie [ Tue May 10, 2005 3:26 pm ]
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Good holds for the openers. Let's see how they hold on towards the week.
Author:  zingy [ Tue May 10, 2005 3:27 pm ]
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Interesting that House of Wax had the second best drop in the top ten...
Author:  Libs [ Tue May 10, 2005 3:32 pm ]
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Zingaling wrote:
Interesting that House of Wax had the second best drop in the top ten...


I doubt that means anything, it still declined from Friday to Saturday, never a good sign for legs.
Author:  zingy [ Tue May 10, 2005 3:33 pm ]
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Libs wrote:
Zingaling wrote:
Interesting that House of Wax had the second best drop in the top ten...


I doubt that means anything, it still declined from Friday to Saturday, never a good sign for legs.


The Amityville Horror declined, too. Turned out fine...
Author:  xiayun [ Tue May 10, 2005 3:35 pm ]
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Hard to tell anything from Monday's number. Van Helsing last year dropped 68.6% on Monday and still went on to drop 60% the second weekend. Weekday numbers are getting better now as we enter the summer.
Author:  Nazgul9 [ Tue May 10, 2005 3:52 pm ]
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xiayun wrote:
Hard to tell anything from Monday's number.

But when you think about it, isn't it the same with saturday numbers? Movies opening on a friday that are anticipated stay about flat or drop a little on saturday, movies that are not go up, which really tells us nothing about its legs further down its run. IMHO.
Author:  Spidey [ Tue May 10, 2005 4:09 pm ]
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Good holds for openers. Good hold for Sin City.
Author:  MGKC [ Tue May 10, 2005 4:37 pm ]
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Wow, BOM's new daily charts are great! :shock: They are much easier to read now.
Author:  xiayun [ Tue May 10, 2005 4:37 pm ]
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Nazgul9 wrote:
xiayun wrote:
Hard to tell anything from Monday's number.

But when you think about it, isn't it the same with saturday numbers? Movies opening on a friday that are anticipated stay about flat or drop a little on saturday, movies that are not go up, which really tells us nothing about its legs further down its run. IMHO.


Not exactly. When the opening Friday was bigger than Saturday, it becomes harder to get a good Friday to Friday drop the second weekend and thus harder to get a better weekend drop. When we get to the root, frontloadness is really all about math. Let's compare those two films:

A - Friday: 10, Sat: 9, Sunday: 6, total: 25
B - Friday: 7, Sat: 9, Sunday: 6, total: 22

And suppose they have the exact numbers from Saturday on all the way to the second weekend and both earn 12 million. Film A dropped 52%, while B dropped 45%. If we just examine the daily numbers, there is nothing that tells us one will drop harder than the other. What made the difference? One had a more frontloaded opening Friday than the other, and Friday-to-Saturday hold indicates that.

This is the reason that I believe a film's legs don't necessarily show up until the third weekend, when it had a normal Friday the previous weekend without the Thursday-night screenings and fan-rushing effect. This is especially true during the summer, when more people are available from mid-night to Friday afternoon.
Author:  zingy [ Tue May 10, 2005 4:45 pm ]
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MG Casey wrote:
Wow, BOM's new daily charts are great! :shock: They are much easier to read now.


Those aren't new. It's part of being a premier pass member. If you sign up for the 3-day trial, you can change your settings to this format, and it'll become your default, even after the pass is over. :wink:
Author:  MGKC [ Tue May 10, 2005 4:49 pm ]
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Zingaling wrote:
MG Casey wrote:
Wow, BOM's new daily charts are great! :shock: They are much easier to read now.


Those aren't new. It's part of being a premier pass member. If you sign up for the 3-day trial, you can change your settings to this format, and it'll become your default, even after the pass is over. :wink:

Hmm.... that's weird. I don't have Premier Pass nor signed up for the 3-day trial. Maybe they finally gave me my month of Premier Pass for me getting #1 in the Derby last year... oh well. :smile:
Author:  zingy [ Tue May 10, 2005 4:51 pm ]
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MG Casey wrote:
Zingaling wrote:
MG Casey wrote:
Wow, BOM's new daily charts are great! :shock: They are much easier to read now.


Those aren't new. It's part of being a premier pass member. If you sign up for the 3-day trial, you can change your settings to this format, and it'll become your default, even after the pass is over. :wink:

Hmm.... that's weird. I don't have Premier Pass nor signed up for the 3-day trial. Maybe they finally gave me my month of Premier Pass for me getting #1 in the Derby last year... oh well. :smile:


Well, if you click that link, you'll see a premier pass version of it.

If you open a new browser, and go to BOM, you'll probably see the regular layout you've always seen. :)
Author:  Maverikk [ Tue May 10, 2005 4:51 pm ]
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Million Dollar Baby now stands at $99,879,011, so it should bring in 100M this week.
Author:  Nazgul9 [ Tue May 10, 2005 6:10 pm ]
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xiayun wrote:
Not exactly. When the opening Friday was bigger than Saturday, it becomes harder to get a good Friday to Friday drop the second weekend and thus harder to get a better weekend drop. When we get to the root, frontloadness is really all about math. Let's compare those two films:

A - Friday: 10, Sat: 9, Sunday: 6, total: 25
B - Friday: 7, Sat: 9, Sunday: 6, total: 22

And suppose they have the exact numbers from Saturday on all the way to the second weekend and both earn 12 million. Film A dropped 52%, while B dropped 45%. If we just examine the daily numbers, there is nothing that tells us one will drop harder than the other. What made the difference? One had a more frontloaded opening Friday than the other, and Friday-to-Saturday hold indicates that.

This is the reason that I believe a film's legs don't necessarily show up until the third weekend, when it had a normal Friday the previous weekend without the Thursday-night screenings and fan-rushing effect. This is especially true during the summer, when more people are available from mid-night to Friday afternoon.

With further down its run i actually had the 3rd weekend and onwards in mind, so we are basically agreeing. Of course the 2nd weekend drop will be higher for a movie that was highly anticipated because of its inflated first friday.
Author:  Magic Mike [ Tue May 10, 2005 7:17 pm ]
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Wow, CRASH had a very good Monday! I wonder if it will ever take the #2 spot from HOUSE OF WAX this week.
Author:  MovieDude [ Wed May 11, 2005 2:01 am ]
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Mike wrote:
Wow, CRASH had a very good Monday! I wonder if it will ever take the #2 spot from HOUSE OF WAX this week.


If it doesn't by the week, it will over the weekend. :)
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