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Box
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:52 am Posts: 25990
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 Summer 2005 Will Suffer
Here's the deal:
There is no major film that has gotten people into their seats to watch the trailers.
In a lot of cases, people simply have no other way to catch up on previews.
Believe it or not, most people don't give a hoot about movie websites or checking movie info on the net, especially not all of the 70m or so that a Shrek 2-like film needs to get into theatres.
In 2004, we had The Passion. That got 60m people into the seats! And not only that, we had Mean Girls and Man on Fire.
We have nothing of the sort this year.
As if that's not enough, both Kingdom of Heaven and that Wax film are not filling many seats, if my more than half empty theatre was any indication.
And, the SW3 trailer got a really nice reaction! Too bad so few were in the seats to watch it.
Anyways, yah, this is going to be a crappy summer.
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Fri May 06, 2005 11:49 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Something like SWIII doesn't need a trailer.
ROTK got its trailer out three months before the release, in September, when most big movies were already gone to be played in front of. Secondhand Lions is hardly a blockbuster.
Didn't hurt the movie.
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Sat May 07, 2005 12:08 am |
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Box
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:52 am Posts: 25990
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It's the smaller films that need it. As 2005 is not going to have a Shrek 2 AND SM2 double-punch, it needs the smaller films to make up for them.
But, as there is less exposure, it likely won't happen.
This will not be a good summer.
Ohhhhhh, btw, I saw the WOTW trailer in theatres, it was wonderfully done.
Btw, most people don't care about SW3. Most will not give it a chance anyways. That's where trailers come in. A lot of people know SW3 is coming out, but so what? A lot of people won't care for it.
Consider that, even Shrek 2 got 'only' 77m people into theatres. The other 230m North Americans passed on it. Heh.
_________________In order of preference: Christian, Argos MadGez wrote: Briefs. Am used to them and boxers can get me in trouble it seems. Too much room and maybe the silkiness have created more than one awkward situation. My Box-Office Blog: http://boxofficetracker.blogspot.com/
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Sat May 07, 2005 12:11 am |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Yeah, millions and millions passed on Titanic as well. Oh horror.
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Sat May 07, 2005 12:43 am |
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zingy
College Boy Z
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:40 pm Posts: 36662
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2005 is booooooring. :Sleep:
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Sat May 07, 2005 1:45 am |
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Amos
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:54 pm Posts: 1585 Location: New Zealand
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box_2005 wrote: Ohhhhhh, btw, I saw the WOTW trailer in theatres, it was wonderfully done.
Was that the teaser with the lighting and then driving away with the highway exploding behind them, or is there a new one? It's just that I heard there'd be a proper trailer out sometime this month.
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Sat May 07, 2005 1:45 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:02 am Posts: 18501
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box_2005 wrote: It's the smaller films that need it. As 2005 is not going to have a Shrek 2 AND SM2 double-punch, it needs the smaller films to make up for them.
But, as there is less exposure, it likely won't happen.
This will not be a good summer.
Ohhhhhh, btw, I saw the WOTW trailer in theatres, it was wonderfully done.
Btw, most people don't care about SW3. Most will not give it a chance anyways. That's where trailers come in. A lot of people know SW3 is coming out, but so what? A lot of people won't care for it.
Consider that, even Shrek 2 got 'only' 77m people into theatres. The other 230m North Americans passed on it. Heh.
Most people aren't gonna care about SW3 huh?? Is that why it's selling out Midnight show after Midnight Show left and right and getting very good reviews this early from those who have seen it?? In 2 weeks, you'll be backtracking on this statement..
_________________http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dmXF3CE04A This kills TDKR At the box office next summer.. Get used to this
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Sat May 07, 2005 1:57 am |
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Joker's Thug #3
Extraordinary
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 2:36 am Posts: 11130 Location: Waiting for the Dark Knight to kick my ass
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Summer 05'
Chance at 100m
Kicking & Screaming
Longest Yard
Mr. and Mrs. Smith
Bewitched
Fantastic Four
Stealth
Wedding Crashers
Dukes of Hazzard
Chance at 200m
Madagascar
Batman Begins
War of the Worlds
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Chance at 300m
ROTS
13 movies with the shot at over 100m is pretty damn good, obviously there will be no HUGE 400m movies this summer except ROTS has a slim chance, but theres gonna be plenty of hits.
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Sat May 07, 2005 3:31 am |
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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bleh, this slow start will only help Sith as it did for shrek 2 last year, and we do have a doiulbe punch this year Box, Star Wars (which ticket sales proove that people do indeed want to see the greatness thus making your statement false), and War of the World. I would also like to mention that the true double punch this year will most likele be Narnia and King Kong, both having great shots at 300m 
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Sat May 07, 2005 4:54 am |
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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Killuminati510 wrote: Summer 05'
Chance at 100m
Kicking & Screaming Longest Yard Mr. and Mrs. Smith Bewitched Fantastic Four Stealth Wedding Crashers Dukes of Hazzard
Chance at 200m Madagascar Batman Begins War of the Worlds Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Chance at 300m ROTS
13 movies with the shot at over 100m is pretty damn good, [b]]obviously there will be no HUGE 400m movies this summer except ROTS has a slim chance[/b, but theres gonna be plenty of hits.
the Summer is so dead so far that that chance is becoming greater by the day.
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Sat May 07, 2005 4:56 am |
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andaroo1
Lord of filth
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:47 pm Posts: 9566
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People have liked War of the Worlds trailer, but the awareness about it isn't high.
Summer is really suffering this year.
Winter, with Potter, Narnia, Kong and Oscar movies is going to be the insane time this year.
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Sat May 07, 2005 4:56 am |
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MovieDude
Where will you be?
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:50 am Posts: 11675
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Wow, total deja vu. After Van Helsing and Troy both dissapointed, everyone was saying the summer was doomed, but we still had a record breaking one. I just think that the first two weeks have been getting weaker lately, whereas there's a lot more solid product later in the months.
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Sat May 07, 2005 5:07 am |
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FILMO
The Original
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:19 am Posts: 9808 Location: Suisse
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The Big Summer movie will have a Trailer/teaser with EP3. They should be safe. I expect something from War of the Worlds, Batman and FF4.
At the moment we dont have that much 100 Mio grossers. But we had already a strong surprise with Hitch.
Something is telling me that 2005 will make more than 2004. ( Isnt there also a Harry Potter????)
Yeah likely that not the summer will make the difference, but winter will.
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Sat May 07, 2005 6:01 am |
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Box
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:52 am Posts: 25990
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MovieDude wrote: Wow, total deja vu. After Van Helsing and Troy both dissapointed, everyone was saying the summer was doomed, but we still had a record breaking one. I just think that the first two weeks have been getting weaker lately, whereas there's a lot more solid product later in the months.
What? No they didn't. They said May, and not summer, was doomed.
Everybody knew HP3 and SM2 would be huge, and they were.
There is no June release that's guaranteed to do as well as HP3 did. $250m is still hard to achieve. And nevermind about SM2. WOTW won't get within $100m of it.
_________________In order of preference: Christian, Argos MadGez wrote: Briefs. Am used to them and boxers can get me in trouble it seems. Too much room and maybe the silkiness have created more than one awkward situation. My Box-Office Blog: http://boxofficetracker.blogspot.com/
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Sat May 07, 2005 8:53 am |
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Box
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:52 am Posts: 25990
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BKB_The_Man wrote: Most people aren't gonna care about SW3 huh?? Is that why it's selling out Midnight show after Midnight Show left and right and getting very good reviews this early from those who have seen it?? In 2 weeks, you'll be backtracking on this statement..
What the hell are you talking about? In order for my statement to be incorrect, the film will have to make $1,031,250,000 domestically, which would correspond to more than half of N. America's population having seen it.
I doubt I will retract any statement.
You, however, will. Which is why I'm quoting you, as insurance.
_________________In order of preference: Christian, Argos MadGez wrote: Briefs. Am used to them and boxers can get me in trouble it seems. Too much room and maybe the silkiness have created more than one awkward situation. My Box-Office Blog: http://boxofficetracker.blogspot.com/
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Sat May 07, 2005 9:00 am |
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Neostorm
All Star Poster
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:48 pm Posts: 4684 Location: Toronto
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Well i personally have a huge feeling Fantastic Four will make over 200 Million. So that might help if it does.
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Sat May 07, 2005 9:17 am |
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48677 Location: Arlington, VA
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Well, of course, there could be some surprise just waiting to shock everyone.
There is one almost every summer, and I don't expect 2005 to be different. We just have to wait and see.
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Sat May 07, 2005 9:23 am |
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zingy
College Boy Z
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:40 pm Posts: 36662
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This year will likely be a year with more $100 million movies. Last year, we had about 3 $3 million+ million movies, which made the year seem huge, but actually, we had less $100 million movies.
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Sat May 07, 2005 11:10 am |
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