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| Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:27 pm ] |
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With $600,788,188 as its total gross Titanic is the all-time most successful movie domestically and about $140 million away from the 2nd most successful movie, Star Wars. Now as incredible as such a gross seems we all know that eventually a movie will come along to dethrone it. Even if we won't see such a phenomenal run, the inflation will take care of it sooner or later. The question is: When? Another interesting question is what genre will the movie be in that will outdo Titanic. Personally I think it'll be a live action family movie or a CGI animated film. In any case, I believe it'll be a flick with huge family appeal. Star Wars, Shrek 2, E.T. and Spider-Man all had it. I don't see it being a huge epic á la LOTR, though. I also don't believe it'll be a romance like Titanic and I tend to believe that it'll be an original movie and not a sequel. As for the time frame, I don't see a movie outgrossing Titanic before 2009, but I believe it'll happen before 2015. That, of course, provided there won't be a simultaneous DVD release along with the theatrical release by that time. In such a case, Titanic will probably stay on top forever... What are your thoughts on that? |
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| Author: | jb007 [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:41 pm ] |
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It will happen with a movie no one expects it to and appeals to all, among others, even to people who normally don't go to the theaters or even rent movies. It could happen next year or it could take 15 years. The right movie at the right time with average or below average competition will do it. |
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| Author: | Maverikk [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:29 pm ] |
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If Lucas or Cameron put out an incredible film as their first 3 D movie using this new breakthrough technology that is said to be what will revolutionize the industry, I think that will beat Titanic. |
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| Author: | Jiffy [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:35 pm ] |
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Just the due to the way the market is evolving, Titanic is gonna be sunk in about 5 years or so. And I kind've doubt that the studios will ever put out DVD simultaneously, simply because it makes absolute sense....they're already double-dipping on DVDs themselves, why would they give people an option? |
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| Author: | Anonymous [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:50 pm ] |
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Considering the run of Shrek 2, I predict the movie to beat Titanic will be a family film, probably 3D CGI. |
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| Author: | Jiffy [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:54 pm ] |
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A CGI animated film that won best picture (Pixar) would be a great candidate to beat Titanic. |
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| Author: | Lucky [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:02 pm ] |
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I don't see a movie beating Titanic anytime soon because of dvd. Because of dvd there are people who almost never go to the movies preferring to wait a few months for the dvd.Every year fewer movie tickets are sold while dvd sales increase . Titanic was the last blockbuster before the dvd era, if you wanted to see Titanic you had to buy a ticket so Titanic ended up playing in theaters for months. |
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| Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:11 pm ] |
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Just like some have said, I also think that the DVD combined with increased film piracy will prevent Titanic from being beaten soon. Only the inflation will lead to that. |
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| Author: | Animosity Reigns [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:24 pm ] |
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it will be a while, when Titanic came out there wasnt a "big blockbuster" every weekend, really Titanic had nothing to even think about until Man in the Iron mask came out.... To beat Titanic it will need to be a movie toward the end of the summer probably and just blow everyone away... plus it wouldnt hurt either once ticket prices reach a $10 avg...which will happen soon :razz: |
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| Author: | bABA [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:30 pm ] |
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unless inflation catches up, none of these movies are breaking titanic. I said it before and I'll say it again. For a movie to reach the height of titanic, the movie must tap into the market thats usually is avoided in blockbusters ...young women. Titanic's abnormal gross exists only because it catered to all audiences, and very strongly to the young women market, which accounted for the anomalic gross. A good movie catering to that market is able to break the 100 million barrier easily. and considering it caters to other markets as well, guys do not mind and/or actually look forward to watching those with young women or by themselves as well. To break titanic, it won't be a family film, won't be a superhero, won't be a star wars or even a 3D adventure from lucas or spielberg ... hit all adult markets out there plus teeny ones. Then you have yourself a record breaker. |
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| Author: | makeshift [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:33 pm ] |
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Gimli the Elf wrote: unless inflation catches up, none of these movies are breaking titanic. I said it before and I'll say it again. For a movie to reach the height of titanic, the movie must tap into the market thats usually is avoided in blockbusters ...young women. Titanic's abnormal gross exists only because it catered to all audiences, and very strongly to the young women market, which accounted for the anomalic gross. A good movie catering to that market is able to break the 100 million barrier easily. and considering it caters to other markets as well, guys do not mind and/or actually look forward to watching those with young women or by themselves as well. To break titanic, it won't be a family film, won't be a superhero, won't be a star wars or even a 3D adventure from lucas or spielberg ... hit all adult markets out there plus teeny ones. Then you have yourself a record breaker. Exactly. The film that will break Titanic's record (if there ever is one, which I seriously doubt) will not be a fanboyesque type film. It will be something like The Notebook with a kick ass action sequence at the end. :yikes: |
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| Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:34 pm ] |
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Gimli the Elf wrote: unless inflation catches up, none of these movies are breaking titanic. I said it before and I'll say it again. For a movie to reach the height of titanic, the movie must tap into the market thats usually is avoided in blockbusters ...young women. Titanic's abnormal gross exists only because it catered to all audiences, and very strongly to the young women market, which accounted for the anomalic gross. A good movie catering to that market is able to break the 100 million barrier easily. and considering it caters to other markets as well, guys do not mind and/or actually look forward to watching those with young women or by themselves as well. To break titanic, it won't be a family film, won't be a superhero, won't be a star wars or even a 3D adventure from lucas or spielberg ... hit all adult markets out there plus teeny ones. Then you have yourself a record breaker. I wouldn't be so sure about family films. Shrek 2 didn't quite get to Titanic, but it got closer than any other movie in its first run. With some help by inflation, a Shrek 2-like performance will be able to beat Titanic in some years. |
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| Author: | Michael. [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:39 pm ] |
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Who here has read The Lion, The Witch & The Wardrobe? I think a popular childhood book adaptation like this could do it Its definately going to have to refer to a historical event/novel |
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| Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:41 pm ] |
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Michael wrote: Who here has read The Lion, The Witch & The Wardrobe? I think a popular childhood book adaptation like this could do it Its definately going to have to refer to a historical event/novel I read it (well, the whole Narnia series). It is good, it is popular, but there is noway it's going to come anywhere close Titanic. LOTR and Harry Potter didn't manage it, so won't Narnia. |
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| Author: | bABA [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:42 pm ] |
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Gimli the Elf wrote: unless inflation catches up, none of these movies are breaking titanic. I said it before and I'll say it again. For a movie to reach the height of titanic, the movie must tap into the market thats usually is avoided in blockbusters ...young women. Titanic's abnormal gross exists only because it catered to all audiences, and very strongly to the young women market, which accounted for the anomalic gross. A good movie catering to that market is able to break the 100 million barrier easily. and considering it caters to other markets as well, guys do not mind and/or actually look forward to watching those with young women or by themselves as well. To break titanic, it won't be a family film, won't be a superhero, won't be a star wars or even a 3D adventure from lucas or spielberg ... hit all adult markets out there plus teeny ones. Then you have yourself a record breaker. I wouldn't be so sure about family films. Shrek 2 didn't quite get to Titanic, but it got closer than any other movie in its first run. With some help by inflation, a Shrek 2-like performance will be able to beat Titanic in some years. And I think Shrek 2 pretty much peaked it. Remember, family friends draw a large crowd but kid's tickets in general are cheaper. a 400 million gross for a family film requires more people to watch it than 400 million for a more adult film. |
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| Author: | Anonymous [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:47 pm ] |
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Pixar presents The Hindenburg. |
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| Author: | Amos [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:53 pm ] |
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loyalfromlondon wrote: Pixar presents The Hindenburg. :mrgreen: You might be on the right track. Studios need to get a great idea for a film that appeals to adults, twist it to appeal to kids, throw in a cast that appeals to teenagers (ie. hot  ) and voila. Add in an explosion, a romance and a talking animal and you have man, woman and child all in line. $$$
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| Author: | MGKC [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 10:55 pm ] |
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I predict no film will top Titanic for 30 years. The movie theater is dying. DVD is growing. |
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| Author: | Maverikk [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:21 pm ] |
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MG Casey wrote: I predict no film will top Titanic for 30 years. The movie theater is dying. DVD is growing. This is the precise reason that I said it would be the first big (and great) 3D film, as the 3D experience will not yet be one that will be anywhere but at the movie theater. Home video will become obsolete until they start incorperating that technology into home theater systems. It'll be boring by comparison until they do. |
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| Author: | Jiffy [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:36 pm ] |
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The movie theatre has always found ways to stay ahead of other outlets for entertainment, no matter how great someone's home system is it likely can't compare to the cinema experience. Besides, DVD is already levelling off, and it won't be long before that is replaced by some other form of home video, and it makes precious little sense that the theatre is dying off if the past three years have seen the most admissions per year sold since the mid-50's and the advent of TV. |
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| Author: | Amos [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:45 pm ] |
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Maverikk wrote: MG Casey wrote: I predict no film will top Titanic for 30 years. The movie theater is dying. DVD is growing. This is the precise reason that I said it would be the first big (and great) 3D film, as the 3D experience will not yet be one that will be anywhere but at the movie theater. Home video will become obsolete until they start incorperating that technology into home theater systems. It'll be boring by comparison until they do. Sorry for my ignorance, but what's this about new 3D technology? 
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| Author: | Maverikk [ Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:50 pm ] |
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Amos wrote: Maverikk wrote: MG Casey wrote: I predict no film will top Titanic for 30 years. The movie theater is dying. DVD is growing. This is the precise reason that I said it would be the first big (and great) 3D film, as the 3D experience will not yet be one that will be anywhere but at the movie theater. Home video will become obsolete until they start incorperating that technology into home theater systems. It'll be boring by comparison until they do. Sorry for my ignorance, but what's this about new 3D technology? Oh, wow...read and enjoy! http://www.worldofkj.com/forum/viewtopi ... as+cameron |
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| Author: | Cotton [ Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:00 am ] |
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I don't see any movie beating Titanic anytime soon because of the increasing competitivness in today's market place. The fact that studios are front-loading movies more then ever is also a hinderance to longevity. |
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| Author: | STEVE ROGERS [ Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:44 am ] |
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Gimli the Elf wrote: unless inflation catches up, none of these movies are breaking titanic. I said it before and I'll say it again. For a movie to reach the height of titanic, the movie must tap into the market thats usually is avoided in blockbusters ...young women. Titanic's abnormal gross exists only because it catered to all audiences, and very strongly to the young women market, which accounted for the anomalic gross. A good movie catering to that market is able to break the 100 million barrier easily. and considering it caters to other markets as well, guys do not mind and/or actually look forward to watching those with young women or by themselves as well. To break titanic, it won't be a family film, won't be a superhero, won't be a star wars or even a 3D adventure from lucas or spielberg ... hit all adult markets out there plus teeny ones. Then you have yourself a record breaker. And this is also why James Cameron hasn't made anything worth a fuck in terms of movies and probably won't until his movie is toppled.. |
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| Author: | baumer72 [ Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:07 am ] |
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I know none of us will be around to see this post come to frutition, but Titanic will not be beat for another 10 or 15 years. When sTar Wars came out, no one in their right mind would have thought that film would sky rocket all the way to to the top of the charts. 20 years later, Titanic was the same way. No one can predict a film to make 600 million dollars. All of the loose cannons who say that a movie about 9/11 will topple it are out to lunch. The thing is, predicting the next huge film is not at all possible or every studio would be jumping on it. The way I look at it, when VHS came out, every one thought that would kill the theater, then cable came and now you have DVD. There will always be a median for movies at home, but it will never kill the theatrical release of film. I do think Titanic will be dethroned one day, but not for at least another 15 years or so. Shrek and Spidey had amazing runs in the last couple of years, but even they only managed to gross 3/4 of what Titanic did. Titanic ain't going anywhere folks, and you can take that to the bank. |
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