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 Thursday Numbers (December 16) 
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1 OCEAN'S TWELVE $2,614,002 0.1% / $795 $50,400,379
2 THE POLAR EXPRESS $1,568,419 16.8% / $482 $115,019,201
3 BLADE: TRINITY $995,000 (estimate) -1% / $342 $28,811,109
4 NATIONAL TREASURE $712,181 6.2% / $222 $126,725,685
5 CHRISTMAS WITH THE KRANKS $542,047 19% / $165 $56,606,046
6 CLOSER $431,887 -1.5% / $694 $15,452,282
7 THE INCREDIBLES $357,640 10.1% / $135 $233,857,885
8 THE SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS MOVIE $204,585 6.7% / $62 $74,359,499
9 FINDING NEVERLAND $200,000 (estimate) 7% / $372 $14,948,074
10 SIDEWAYS $190,023 -1.8% / $400 $15,008,517
11 ALEXANDER $172,367 2.6% / $81 $33,274,623


Fri Dec 17, 2004 4:53 pm
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Looks like even my prediction of 10M weekend for The Polar Express is low. It may pass Lecter's 10.5M as well.


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The Polar Express is unstoppable :shock:

Also, Ocean's Twelve is on its way to a 45% drop this weekend.


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Week-to-week:

THE POLAR EXPRESS 37.2%
NATIONAL TREASURE -23.5%
CHRISTMAS WITH THE KRANKS -2.7%
CLOSER -16.7%
THE INCREDIBLES -9.5%
THE SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS MOVIE -12.6%
FINDING NEVERLAND 1.5%
SIDEWAYS 40.7%

Holiday is having an effect now. None of them will drop hard this weekend except for Blade, and even that may not be as hard as it could be.


Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:01 pm
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BJ may be right 8) If this holds up after Christmas, here comes 200 mil. for The Polar Express :D

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Wow, Polar Express sure is chugging along. Amazing that is movie has never had attendence over 120 per show at my theater.

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Excellent numbers for The Polar Express. Nice to see Finding Neverland doing well also. Should see a significant increase this weekend with the addition of 400+ theaters.

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:shock: :shock: :shock:

The Polar Express continues to stun. :D

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totally sucks... Just got home from work and we had 2 sold out shows of Polar Express in 300 seat theatres... *sigh* I only dropped that movie 6% and it looks like im still gonna be way off....


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Animosity Reigns wrote:
totally sucks... Just got home from work and we had 2 sold out shows of Polar Express in 300 seat theatres... *sigh* I only dropped that movie 6% and it looks like im still gonna be way off....


I think Lemony Snicket will affect it big time.


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micasey300 wrote:
Animosity Reigns wrote:
totally sucks... Just got home from work and we had 2 sold out shows of Polar Express in 300 seat theatres... *sigh* I only dropped that movie 6% and it looks like im still gonna be way off....


I think Lemony Snicket will affect it big time.


I don't think The Polar Express will be affected. IMAX really helps. It only needs increase 100% today to be on the way for a >10M weekend.


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xiayun wrote:
Week-to-week:

THE POLAR EXPRESS 37.2%
NATIONAL TREASURE -23.5%
CHRISTMAS WITH THE KRANKS -2.7%
CLOSER -16.7%
THE INCREDIBLES -9.5%
THE SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS MOVIE -12.6%
FINDING NEVERLAND 1.5%
SIDEWAYS 40.7%

Holiday is having an effect now. None of them will drop hard this weekend except for Blade, and even that may not be as hard as it could be.


I think it's likely that we will see really weak increases this Friday. Some people are probably already off. 100% or less for some films. Last year TLS increased 98% on the 19th. O11 increased 114% on the 21st. I think TPE, O12 and Blade: Trinity will all increase around 100%-120%. Closer would as well if not for the theater count increase.


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I based my prediction of Blade: Trinity on an 100% increase Friday as well. I'm not sure about Ocean's Twelve. I think it could get 150% increase. The weekend this year is almost the furthest you can get from Christmas when the next week includes Christmas, since the holiday falls on a Saturday. That should make the increase a little better.


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xiayun wrote:
I based my prediction of Blade: Trinity on an 100% increase Friday as well. I'm not sure about Ocean's Twelve. I think it could get 150% increase. The weekend this year is almost the furthest you can get from Christmas when the next week includes Christmas, since the holiday falls on a Saturday. That should make the increase a little better.


O11 increased 164% on the 14th in 2001. Since O12 is probably losing more screens, more people are off this year, and it's more frontloaded, I think anything over 140% is impossible. Besides, Blade: Trinity had the higher decrease on Monday, so the increase on Friday is likely to be higher for it then O12.


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Also, in 2001 Behind Enemy Lines increased 90%. In 2002, Die Another Day increased 68% while Star Trek increased 98%.

For all the movies 2001-2003 they had the advantage of LOTR opening on Wednesday. Therefore they lost many of the screens on Wed. rather then Friday which helped the Thursday-Friday increase. This year Lemony Snicket and the other openers are taking their screens on Friday.

Meanwhile, on Dec. 15th 2000, Dungeons and Dragons increased 91%, while Proof of Life increased 93%.

All these movies had at most minimal changes in their theater counts.

I think a number less then 5m is more likely on Friday for O12 then a gross over 6m is.


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This is only the second weekend for Ocean's Twelve. I still don't see why it's all that different from the first one. I'm predicting 19.5M BTW, so I guess I expect about 6M today. It isn't losing theaters, and it is not losing that many screens either. All the theaters around me still have the same amount of screens and showtimes playing as last weekend. Overall, I'm still pretty confident about that prediction and the 6M for Blade: Trinity.


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xiayun wrote:
This is only the second weekend for Ocean's Twelve. I still don't see why it's all that different from the first one.


I'd argue that since the 17th is between the 14th and the 21st (Fridays for the original) it at best will increase 145%, which would be closer to the increase for O12. However, the numbers for the other films this Thursday (with those great holds from last week) seem to indicate that Thursday the 16th is more similar to Thursday the 20th then Thursday the 13th. Additionally, O12 is clearly more frontloaded then the original, so that should have a negative impact on the Friday increase.


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The Polar Express is unstoppable. It's probably going to end with about $150 million or so. Nice for Ocean's Twelve. Looks to have a 45% drop this weekend, and a total over $140 million as well with the holidays. National Treasure should end with about $145-150 million after the holidays are over. Blade: Trinity will make over $40 million, but $50 million is a big stretch.


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Nice for POLAR and KRANKS.

Nice to see CLOSER and SIDEWAY'S dropping harder on thursday than Blade! :D


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mansonmyers wrote:
Nice for POLAR and KRANKS.

Nice to see CLOSER and SIDEWAY'S dropping harder on thursday than Blade! :D


That's a nice thing?


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