They wont because of Avatar.

I still see this doing well even if Cap 4 and Thunderbolts bomb since it’s much more broadly appealing, imo.

Though I actually see Thunderbolts doing solid after the latest good trailer if it’s a decent movie. Could see like 85/240m if everything went right for that one.

Sorry, did you just say Thunderbolts* can open to $85 million and close with $240m?

To me it won't come close to those numbers. Those numbers are more likely for Blacktain America and Fantastic Bore.

If it got good reviews that’s the high end.

If it gets meh reviews probably around 55-60m opening and drops like a rock.

It does have the summer kickoff slot so that helps it.

No way thunderbomb is opening that high. Its releasing 9 weeks after Cap 4 and has not a single character that GA would care. Trailer looks like a wannabe Suicide squad movie without any interesting character. OW closer to Marvels I am thinking. Disney has stopped doing early reviews/reactions and so its tough for this movie to pull in a Shang Chi. That looked like 50s opener until early strong reviews propelled it to a big OW and leggy run in an empty market place. That had a more interesting hook than Thunderbolts for sure.

Half those numbers is more like it. But even then $40m even feels too generous for it, lol. Maybe it does, like, $35m opening.

Brave New World and Thunderbolts should have been one movie. Splitting them in two is some peak hubris by Marvel. Bucky and Yelena would be have been so welcome as main characters in this movie over the "forgotten cap who is mind controlled" and "she used to be a widow" random girl agent.

Trailer looked nice on the big screen.

Liking the new trailer. 100m+ opening should happen.

Well, you were right.

Imax for my local theater is nearly full already for opening night damn lol

This and Superman both being massive would be weird when all other signs were superhero was declining. Deadpool was the 3rd in a very popular trilogy and unique genre wise, there are just two straight forward superhero franchise starters.

These seem fresher to me than something like Thunderbolts or Cap 4. More in the vein of Deadpool and Wolverine.

agree & why they’ll both be successful

Stronger start than Cap 4 and Bolts. But weaker than big MCU movies including all sequels. Still a great start this far from release. 100m OW should happen.

Good to hear.

Hopefully it can have a low $100s OW to a $300-$335m run if its good. It is the last of the big tentpole summer pics which should help its legs.

I am seeing around 23m previews and 125m OW and low 300s finish even with above average reception.

Any tracking updates on this one?

Very good. I see it opening above Supes at this point. Something like 24m ish previews and 130m OW. But let us wait until tuesday to gauge the hype in the final week. Reception also matters.

130m would be very good for this. Idk i'm kinda expecting reception to be fine so i'm thinking 115-120m.

The late marketing looks fantastic.....but the run time is indeed short, lets see how it is reviewed.

An opening around Supes would be amazing as the OS number should be better too. Hopefully the film is actually good.

Early OS presales in China/Korea look worse than Supes. I think it will do better than Supes in Europe and down under but worse in Asia and part of Latin America. Overall OS totals may not be that from each other.

Plus let us wait for reviews and see how it will behave. At this point Marvel have much bigger fan base and so it could be frontloaded unless it has enormous buzz like Deadpool last year that pulls in audience otherwise who skip these movies.