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 What films, if made today would be huge hits? 
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What you guys are failing to realize is that poker is so much bigger than most of you realize now. Everyone is playing it and the saturation factor is massive. The ratings for poker now are through the roof, poker book sales are hot and this leads me to believe that any movie about poker, especially one starring Matt Damon would be huge. Maybe you guys don't know much about poker, maybe you don't care about and that is fine, but I am enamoured with the whole world of poker and it's popularity has exploded. And to say that Rounders wasn't a good movie, sorry you feel that way, but I have always felt it is one of the most under rated movies of our time, even before poker was introduced to me. Rounders would easily cross 80 mill if released today.


Oh I know poker is huge now. I just think the tone and depressing aspects of the movie are what would keep it at around the same box office draw. I've noticed Rounders has a rental following, so it could do better because of who knows it, but I don't think it would do dramatically better because poker is big. Its just me, but I think this movie wasn't about poker per se, it was about Norton's obsessed character. So the question should be if there is more interest in that type of character.

Its like Hoop Dreams. On the surface I would say Hoop Dreams would make alot of money now because of basketball, but its more a character study of two inner city youths. So its primary pull is still going to be people who are into documentaries that explore youth and the urban landscape...not basketball. Basketball fans (of which their are many) did not, and still won't flock to this type of movie just because it has basketball in it. Same thing for Rounders.

The Matt Damon draw is interesting though. He's been big since Good Will Hunting of course, but somehow he's not a blockbuster. For people that follow movies very closely, we love him because he's like Redford. You know if they even chose to pick up the role, that the movie is probably decent. They have good taste. But I've never heard people flock to a movie because its a Damon vehicle the way they used to for say, Affleck movies.

@Lecter. L.A. confidential would make much more today. Mostly because people were deterred from it due to "violence" and in the last few years that type of movie has opened up so much that Confidential seems tame compared to movies like Sin City. Though I do think it actually helped that the stars weren't as big then. I think we liked the unknowns in the roles rather than a huge "star-studded" cast.


Funny thing about Damon, you are right dolce, he is not a massive box office draw, but he is a decent one. I think he is one of the top ten leding men right now in Hollywood, and to be honest with you, I don't think Affleck was ever a bigger draw than Damon. Let's look at their movies post Good Will Hunting.

Affleck Damon

Phantoms Saving Private Ryan
Armageddon Rounders
Forces of Nature Talented Mr. Ripley
Boiler Room Legend of Bagger Vance
Reindeer Games All the Pretty Horses

These were their main choices after Good Will Hunting and as you can see, films that were anchored by both of them were not exactly huge box office draws. Affleck was never a massive draw and he isn't really now either...but as their careers have gone on, Damon has picked better roles and with the exception of one or two absolute missteps, his films have been better received that Afflecks. Granted, he hit it nicely with the Bounre films and he was part of an amazing ensemble with the Ocean 11 and 12 movies, but his name I think is more synonymous with box office that Affleck is. With this in mind, but more because poker has exploded, I think that Rounders would be a big draw. And the film was not just about Norton's problem, it went to great lengths to introduce us to Texas No Limit Hold Em. I don't have the numbers, but I'd be willing to bet that the SE of Rounders is selling well.

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