Are most of you judging the movie before even watching it? It really is a good movie. \:D/

Fockers deserves its success. Do you guys think it will remain number one against Elektra next weeked?

It can if it drops very little. I expected Electra to open in the low 20's. So I think the chance is slim

I think Fockers definitely will. People are way overpredicting Elektra in my opinion.

Meet the Fockers YES

White Noise screwed me over :x

National Treasure beats Polar

LOVE the WHITE NOISE numbers.

First horror/thriller of 2005, and it's a hit!

Yay!!

Fockers is going to go way ove my 240 prediction.

There was just nothing else out, nothing heavily marketed, and Fockers ate it up. People tend to have a lot of time this point in the year, they are in a giving mood, and like to go out and do things alot of times as a family. Because of that you just had to know Fockers would take off, and it did.

Great numbers for white noise.

I have no idea how Phantom will perform when it goes wide.

Can not wait till I get to see million dollar baby.

Nuh Zing. I saw it. But I'm with Box. Sure, it's a L-O-L haha movie. But my point is this, in the past, movies that gross the kind of $$ that Fockers is grossing, it was because those movies touched pop culture in one way or another. They became "event" movies. There was a reason those movies caught on with audiences:

-subjects never explored before
-incredible performaces
-artistic takes on known subjects

SOMETHING was extraordinary about these type of high-grossing movies.

But Fockers has nothing extraordinary (and I would agree Shrek 2 didn't either). So why these numbers? What is it? ](*,)

Fockers will end at around 280-ish. MLK weekend will help.

Seems like the Kinsey expansion didn't do much, but the Hotel Rwanda and Million Dollar Baby expansions did.

Ouch for The Aviator, Phantom, and Life Aquatic. Not the drops, but the grosses. The Phantom might miss $50m!

dude, your avatar is the biggest tease i have ever seen! where is the other half???

Well, it's a matter of opinion I guess you can say. I happened to love Meet The Fockers, and I knew it was going to be a gigantic hit. It had huge star power too, so I think that helped it lots. Not to mention it is a comedy, and people love a good comedy movie, which it was.

i think you're really used to movies going crazy and earning tons of cash for no reason (aka Rush Hour 2). But in the 90's, a movie didn't earn a lot of movie because of star power or because it was simply a good comedy. ugh. am i the only one upset at this??? :kriz:

In terms of assessing whether a film is an 'event film' or not, you can actually be fairly objective.


Only The Passion and F 9/11 among all the 2004 releases were event films, or rather, come close to being. Neither Shrek 2, Spider-Man 2, HP3, or The Incredibles come close to being 'even films'. How often do you see those films being topics of conversation when compared to Lord of the Rings or Titanic, or, on a humbler level, the first Shrek film or the first Spider-Man?


I think 2004 marks a significant shift from previous years. A film making $250m, $350m, or even $450m can do so without being a cultural force. When Raiders of the Lost Ark made $240m, or Jurassic Park passed $350m, those figures actually meant something. They were indicative of the huge response those films received from the culture they were part of. They were very much topics of discussion, and they've stuck around.

Meet the Fockers making $270m or $280m does not correspond to it being of any lasting cultural significance. It can't be an event film in the traditional sense then, only in that it is playing a central role for a brief period. But even at this point, I think Sideways and other smaller films are getting more attention.

I'm not sure what this means for 2005, but it's an indication that the box office performance has nothing to do with cultural significance anymore.

I see what you mean, so how much do you think Fockers deserved to make at the box office?

Whatever it ends up making, that's what it deserves. If the public sees it as being worth $280m, then so be it.


Films aren't only art, but entertainment. The box office generally has been an indicator of the entertainment value of a film, rather than its artistic merits (assuming it has any).

In some cases, a successful film can meet both demands, and it's actually encouraging to see so many recent releases that were both good films and entertaining. Having seen The Incredibles, I'm somewhat surprised it managed to cross $250m. It's far more serious than I thought it would be. Same with Spider-Man 2. Those were unusually good decisions on the part of the audience.

2 WHITE NOISE $24,046,000 NEW $24,046,000


would that be Micheal Keaton's biggest opening weekend since the first Batman?

lmao --->
puff,puff pass man. don't fuck up the rotation.

LOL good point rev. =D> another example of how ridiculous box office is these days.

Not, it was be his highest since Batman Returns. That made $40 million opening weekend. :wink:

DOH! #-o forgot he was in that one also.
thx

No problem. Anyway, I thought White Noise looked like shit. I think I'm going to wait for the discount theatre to see it.

great for white noise

If it wasn't for the holiday next weekend I could've seen White Noise making less then 10 million next weekend. As is, it'll probably do about 10 even.

Although WHITE NOISE is doing very well, Universal will only make skimpy profits because of their rent-a-system distribution arrangement with Gold Circle Films.

Universal don't need to pay anything to get the film and don't need to pay for its prints and advertising costs. On the other hand, Universal's profit from WHITE NOISE has been limited to modest distribution fees.

dont forget about coach carter..it might be a sleeper and sneak out to #1 ... just remeber no one expected you got served either